
Christian Bokhove is a Professor in Mathematics Education, University of Southampton. He is a specialist on international comparisons in mathematics education, the use of technology, and innovative methodologies.
In this episode we discuss domain knowledge, generic skills, a famous paper by Tricot and Sweller, the Maths wars - and much more besides…
LINKS
The EEF evidence review on metacognition and self-regulation by Bokhove & Muijs -
https://educationendowmentfoundation.org.uk/education-evidence/evidence-reviews/metacognition-and-self-regulation
Christian’s blog / website: https://bokhove.net/
The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via a social platform of your choosing:
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Oct 20, 2023
2 hr 51 min

Dave McPartlin is the headteacher of Flakefleet Primary School in Lancashire. In this episode Dave speaks openly and candidly about the impact Ofsted has had on his mental health and that of his colleagues. He makes a compelling case for why Ofsted needs to change - and how.
LINKS
Dave on BBC breakfast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMNRMQOBhL0
Flakefleet get the golden buzzer on BGT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itSbV3YiRkI
Metro profile on Dave: https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/06/who-is-flakefleet-primary-school-headteacher-dave-mcpartlin-who-won-a-golden-buzzer-with-his-school-on-bgt-9126524/
THE RETHINKING ED CONFERENCE 2023
Sat 23rd September, London
Tickets: bit.ly/reconf23
Speakers, sessions, bios: www.rethinking-ed.org/rethinked23
Making Change Stick: makingchangestick.co
The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via a social platform of your choosing:
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Sep 17, 2023
54 min

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Ron Berger is Chief Program Officer for the non-profit school improvement network Expeditionary Learning, a national network of over 160 public project-based schools in 30 states in the US. Ron was as a public school teacher and carpenter in rural Massachusetts for 25 years. His writing and speaking centre on inspiring quality and character in students, specifically through project-based learning, original scientific and historical research, service learning, and the infusion of arts. He is the author of two books - An Ethic of Excellence and A Culture of Quality - the former of which is the focus of this podcast, in its 20th anniversary year
This was a game-changing conversation in which Ron provides a way out of the trad-prog debate, and explains how to transform the culture of a school so that the students really start to care about their learning, and to consistently produce work to a staggeringly high standard.
LINKS
EL Education: https://eleducation.org/
An ethic of excellence: https://www.wob.com/en-gb/books/berger/ethic-of-excellence/9780325005966
THE RETHINKING ED CONFERENCE 2023
Sat 23rd September, London
Tickets: https://bit.ly/reconf23
Speakers, sessions, bios: https://www.rethinking-ed.org/rethinked23
Making Change Stick: makingchangestick.co
The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via a social platform of your choosing:
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Sep 10, 2023
2 hr 17 min

Dennis Sherwood is a management consultant who specialises in creativity, innovation, and systems thinking. He has a Physics Masters from the University of Cambridge, an MPhil in Molecular Biophysics and Biochemistry from Yale University and a PhD in biology from the University of California in San Diego. After being a consulting partner at Deloitte Haskins + Sells, and Coopers & Lybrand, he became an executive director at Goldman Sachs. He now runs his own business, The Silver Bullet Machine Manufacturing Company Limited, specializing in organizational creativity and innovation. He has been using systems thinking since 1984 and is one of the UK’s leading experts. In addition, he has authored 14 books on a variety of subjects, including systems thinking, creativity, innovation, and financial modelling. His most recent book is Missing the Mark: Why so many school exam grades are wrong - and how to get results we can trust - and this is the topic of this episode.
LINKS
Dennis's website: https://www.silverbulletmachine.com/
Rethinking Education conference - Sat 23rd September, London: https://bit.ly/reconf23
Making Change Stick: https://makingchangestick.co
The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via a social platform of your choosing:
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Aug 18, 2023
1 hr 48 min

Ty Golding (https://twitter.com/tjgolding) is the Headteacher of Holton Primary School, in Barry town in South Wales. Ty has experience of teaching at every level of primary education, including nursery. He has worked with Welsh Government policy development and implementation, developing a national online platform for learners and most recently as Head of Curriculum Design & Development.
Cat Place (https://twitter.com/catrplace) grew up in Newport where she currently lives with her daughter. Cat is the headteacher of Jubilee Park Primary School in Newport, and had the privilege of opening the school in 2017 - a story you’ll hear all about in this episode.
In this episode we take a deep dive into the exciting developments that have been happening lately with the Curriculum for Wales. I was already excited about the Curriculum for ales, based on what little I knew of it, and this episode has only intensified that excitement. Based on the work of Professor Graham Donaldson, they have embraced a really bold vision for how to reform education and they’re going for it big time.
LINKS
The Oracy Curriculum: https://www.rethinking-ed.org/the-oracy-curriculum
Rethinking Education conference - Sat 23rd September, London: https://bit.ly/reconf23
Schools as learning organisations: https://www.oecd.org/education/school/school-learning-organisation.pdf
The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via a social platform of your choosing:
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Jul 16, 2023
2 hr 33 min

Frank Norris is a former headteacher and HMI (His Majesty’s Inspector) with decades of experience leading and inspecting a wide range of schools and other settings including secure units, independent schools, prisons, initial teacher education as well as secondary and primary schools in England and abroad.
From 2014-19, Frank was the CEO of the Coop Academies Trust. The Coop Trust is highly regarded and is one of the highest performing for disadvantaged students according to reports by the DfE, EPI and Sutton Trust. Frank was awarded an MBE in summer 2019 for his services to education. He is also the co-host of the Frank & Stan podcast.
Julie Price Grimshaw is also a former HMI with a successful track record in supporting school improvement, particularly in teaching and learning. She is a school improvement advisor who has previously been an inspector of schools and initial teacher education, a PGCE course leader at Manchester Metropolitan University, an advisor to the Teacher Development AGency and the Department for Education, an external moderator for initial teacher education, and a teacher of English and Music. Julie started blogging about Ofsted in October 2021, and her website - julesmusings.blog - is well worth a visit.
LINKS:
Frank's website: https://frankwnorris.co.uk
Julie's blog: https://julesmusings.blog/blog/
Rethinking Education conference - Sat 23rd September, North London: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-rethinking-education-conference-2023-tickets-602718887417
Apply to speak: https://www.rethinking-ed.org/rethinked23
Metacognition in action - Fri 23rd June 2023, Central London: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/metacognition-in-action-tickets-591350293647
Making change stick: A practical guide to implementing school improvement - Wed 14th June, 4-5pm (FREE): https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/making-change-stick-a-practical-guide-to-implementing-school-improvement-tickets-630709207217
The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at https://www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via a social platform of your choosing:
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May 27, 2023
1 hr 27 min

An astonishing conversation with Derry Hannam, a fascinating thinker and writer and practitioner of democratic education, and the author of the brilliant book ‘Another Way is Possible - Becoming a Democratic Teacher in a State School’.
In his 20 years as a teacher in English state secondary schools, Derry Hannam always tried to create environments where students could make choices about - and take control of - their own learning in a democratic and rights respecting context.
Derry has been described as a ‘bridge person’ who tries to bring about dialogue between the mainly private democratic education movement with its 500+ schools worldwide and state or public school systems. This has at times involved supporting democratic schools in legal actions, a role that Derry has played in England, Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands. He is currently supporting start-up democratic schools in several countries, advising them how best to work with their respective state systems.
LINKS
Another Way is Possible - Becoming a Democratic Teacher in a State School
Ebook: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1029100
Paperback: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Another-Way-Possible-Democratic-Self-Directed/dp/B0942MSF5M
Rethinking Education conference - Sat 23rd September, North London: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-rethinking-education-conference-2023-tickets-602718887417
Apply to speak: https://www.rethinking-ed.org/rethinked23
Metacognition in action - Fri 23rd June 2023, Central London: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/metacognition-in-action-tickets-591350293647
Making change stick: A practical guide to implementing school improvement - Wed 14th June, 4-5pm (FREE): https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/making-change-stick-a-practical-guide-to-implementing-school-improvement-tickets-630709207217
The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at https://www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via a social platform of your choosing:
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May 20, 2023
3 hr 16 min
![S3E12: David Phillips: “It has become a monster” [Heads talking about Ofsted #2]](https://cdn-images.podbay.fm/eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL2kxLnNuZGNkbi5jb20vYXJ0d29ya3MtS2w0eFBRYUpaUG9BczlzYi1GYmR6dHctdDMwMDB4MzAwMC5qcGciLCJmYWxsYmFjayI6Imh0dHBzOi8vaXMzLXNzbC5tenN0YXRpYy5jb20vaW1hZ2UvdGh1bWIvUG9kY2FzdHMxMjQvdjQvOGUvZDIvNDEvOGVkMjQxZTItNjVkYS1iMmM1LWYxZDktOTExOGU4N2QyNzdiL216YV8xNjQwNDc5NTA4MzEyMjI2NDE0NC5qcGcvNjAweDYwMGJiLmpwZyJ9.fp2FC0Ojtw5D3MgtD0RE9BOKwkvjsAnGrDgwLJAGZsA.jpg?width=200&height=200)
This is the second in a series of episodes featuring headteachers and former heads talking about Ofsted.
David Phillips is the headteacher of Chilwell school in Nottingham.
He has been in senior leadership for over twenty years and a headteacher in both the academies and maintained sectors.
He is one of the East Midlands representatives for his professional association and has a particular focus on leadership and governance.
He has worked in schools throughout the East Midlands with projects in age range change, school partnership development and quality assurance.
David has worked in schools since before the inception of OFSTED and has experienced the week long visits, the short novel reports, the progress in a lesson visits, the data focussed judgements and has experienced virtually the full range of OFSTED judgements.
In short: David has a long and distinguished career, and has a richly informed perspective on the current debate about Ofsted, a controversy that is showing no signs of going away anytime soon.
LINKS:
Rethinking Ed Mighty Network: https://rethinking-education.mn.co
THE RETHINKING ED CONFERENCE 2023
Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-rethinking-education-conference-2023-tickets-602718887417
Apply to speak: https://www.rethinking-ed.org/rethinked23
The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via a social platform of your choosing:
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Apr 15, 2023
56 min

Martin Robinson is an educationalist, author, writer, consultant, orator and liberal artist. He worked in East London state schools for more than 20 years as a teacher, head of department, advanced skills teacher and school leader. For the last ten years he has worked as an education consultant delivering workshops and keynote speeches about curriculum design, teaching methodology and culture. He is a regular on the conference circuit both in the UK and internationally.
In this - the second part of James's epic conversation with Martin (the fist part features in S3E8) - we also discussed character education, the importance of anarchy, the value of violence, his fascinating book ‘Athena vs the machine’, the canon, decolonising the curriculum, communities of inquiry - to name just a few juicy morsels.
LINKS:
Martin’s website: https://www.martinrobinson.net/
Rethinking Ed Mighty Network: https://rethinking-education.mn.co
THE RETHINKING ED CONFERENCE 2023
Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-rethinking-education-conference-2023-tickets-602718887417
Apply to speak: https://www.rethinking-ed.org/rethinked23
The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via a social platform of your choosing:
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Apr 6, 2023
1 hr 35 min
![S3E10: Rebecca Leek: Straitjackets, ethics and inspectors' eyebrows [Heads talking about Ofsted #1]](https://cdn-images.podbay.fm/eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL2kxLnNuZGNkbi5jb20vYXJ0d29ya3MtdHJGMDd1NDZwa0s1eTlQeC1lbGVyelEtdDMwMDB4MzAwMC5qcGciLCJmYWxsYmFjayI6Imh0dHBzOi8vaXMzLXNzbC5tenN0YXRpYy5jb20vaW1hZ2UvdGh1bWIvUG9kY2FzdHMxMjQvdjQvOGUvZDIvNDEvOGVkMjQxZTItNjVkYS1iMmM1LWYxZDktOTExOGU4N2QyNzdiL216YV8xNjQwNDc5NTA4MzEyMjI2NDE0NC5qcGcvNjAweDYwMGJiLmpwZyJ9.DrY07I8OBwarYMGo9lf0T4V5r2Mir28brSMx8GPCfHw.jpg?width=200&height=200)
This is the first in a series of interviews with headteachers and former heads talking about Ofsted (the Office for Standards in Education - England's schools inspectorate).
Rebecca Leek is an experienced strategic leader who has worked across a wide range of settings and organisations, and she’s currently the Executive Director of the Suffolk Primary Headteachers' Assocation.
She has been a headteacher, executive headteacher, chief executive, a teacher and a Senco, and is a veteran of no fewer than 14 Ofsted inspections. She is a systems thinker, an innovator, and has been described as 'a harbinger of light'. She is increasingly in demand as a speaker, trainer and writer and brings with her a wealth of knowledge and insight from her involvement in a number of sectors including the arts, social enterprise, communications, permaculture and education.
Rebecca describes herself as a holistic leader and is interested in systems and governance, belonging, and spiritual sustenance within schools. As we will hear several times in this conversation, Rebecca’s practice as a permaculturist informs much of what she does, and in particular the principles of valuing diversity and what happens at the margins.
LINKS:
Rebecca's website: https://www.rebeccaleek.com/
Rebecca's recent article in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/24/teachers-ofsted-inspections-schools-children
Rethinking Ed Conference 2023
Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-rethinking-education-conference-2023-tickets-602718887417
Apply to speak: https://www.rethinking-ed.org/rethinked23
The Rethinking Education podcast is hosted and produced by Dr James Mannion. You can contact him at www.rethinking-ed.org/contact, or via a social platform of your choosing:
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Apr 2, 2023
1 hr 18 min
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