Recovery Rocks
Recovery Rocks
Recovery Rocks
Ever wonder what it's like to go on your first sober date? Or survive a wedding without liquid courage? How about dancing stone-cold sober or dealing with your first breakup without wine? If so, you're in luck because you can join bestselling authors and longtime sober friends Lisa Smith and Anna David as they talk to guests—and each other—about addiction and recovery, including all the “firsts” that come with sober living. From awkward to amazing, cringe-worthy to surprisingly poignant, they’re discussing what it’s like to experience life without substances. Lisa is the author of the award-winning memoir Girl Walks Out of a Bar, while Anna wrote Party Girl, a comic novel about addiction and recovery in the vein of Rachel's Holiday and Postcards From the Edge. Together, they explore the real-life moments behind the kinds of stories that shape how people understand recovery. Whether you're newly sober, sober-curious or just want to hear some honest stories about recovery, Recovery Rocks is here for all of it. Because as it turns out, when you can remember everything that happened, life gets a lot more interesting. New episodes weekly. Real stories, real recovery, real talk.
Road Recovery with Gene Bowen
Lisa talks with Gene Bowen, co-founder of Road Recovery, the music industry-driven non-profit that helps young people as they battle addiction and other adversities. Come for Gene’s inspiring story and the life-saving work Road Recovery does, stay for the coffee collaboration with Fred Schneider of the B-52s. Pick up a bag of Outer Space Blend here. 
Jul 10
35 min
Throwback Thursday: Greg Behrendt on Why Sobriety Is So Damn Loud
Long before Recovery Rocks, Anna’s Recover Girl podcast featured raw live storytelling from comedians and recovering addicts. This Thursday Throwback brings back Greg Behrendt — comedian, bestselling author of He’s Just Not That Into You and one of Anna’s favorite guests ever.Greg talks about the strange grief of getting sober: realizing music is too loud, dates are terrifying and reality is way more intense than expected. He also hilariously dismantles some of recovery’s most beloved clichés, including the idea that sober people somehow “have more fun.”It’s brutally honest, deeply funny and painfully relatable for anyone who’s ever realized that numbing out was, at least partially, an attempt to survive being so sensitive.
Jul 9
14 min
Dad, Have You Been in Prison?
Most parents don't expect their kid to ask them that question.Gregg Champion is not most parents but someone who’s spent years helping people rebuild their lives through recovery—until the 2025 Pacific Palisades fires destroyed both his home and business and he found himself needing literal help rebuilding his own life.In this episode, Gregg talks about loss, grief, resilience and the uncomfortable reality that recovery doesn't make anyone exempt from life's hardest moments. We also get into why he believes vaping and gambling are quietly becoming two of the biggest addiction threats facing families today.It's a conversation about rebuilding when everything falls apart—and why recovery is about a lot more than not picking up a drink. (It's also about Gregg charming Anna's mom.)
Jul 3
40 min
Throwback Thursday: Eddie Pepitone Thinks We’re All Doomed
Before Recovery Rocks existed, Anna hosted Recover Girl, where comedians, writers and addicts told stories that were dark, hilarious and weirdly healing. This throwback features legendary comedian Eddie Pepitone in peak form.Known as “The Bitter Buddha,” Eddie riffs on sobriety, panic disorder, apocalypse anxiety, addiction, coffee during panic attacks, adult coloring books and the sheer discomfort of being alive. Somewhere between stand-up set and existential breakdown, he delivers one of the funniest and most painfully honest recovery stories we’ve ever heard.If you’ve ever felt simultaneously grateful to be sober and absolutely horrified to be conscious, this one’s for you.
Jul 2
24 min
We Talked to the Guy Who Was Talking Recovery Before It Was Trendy
Long before celebrities were launching sobriety brands and influencers were posting mocktails on Instagram, Shane Ramer was talking publicly about recovery into a microphone with no guarantee anyone would listen.As the founder and host of That Sober Guy Podcast, Shane has spent more than a decade having honest conversations about addiction, recovery, fatherhood, masculinity and what it actually takes to change your life.We talk about what recovery looked like before it became culturally acceptable, how the conversation has changed and why some of the most important things about sobriety haven't changed at all.
Jun 26
35 min
Throwback Thursday: Laura House and the Naked Houseboat Disaster
Before she became a successful TV writer and meditation teacher, Laura House was getting drunk on a barely floating houseboat filled with naked Texans, animal-print speedos and enough beer to sink the thing entirely.In this Thursday Throwback from Anna’s original Recover Girl podcast, Laura tells the unbelievable true story of a Fourth of July weekend spent partying on “Naked Island,” a floating hillbilly paradise created by one of her most gloriously chaotic friends. The story involves houseboat debauchery, accidental nudity, Texas-sized drinking and eventually…court.Laura is one of the funniest people alive and this episode is a perfect reminder of why these old Recover Girl stories deserved a second life.
Jun 25
22 min
(REBROADCAST) Sober Firsts: Sex
We'll be back to our regularly scheduled programming next week, but here's a rebroadcast of one of the first episodes since Anna joined the show.Let’s get straight to it. Sober sex for the first time is a big deal! Some of us had never even done it before. We talk about our experiences – from what we were told to what we expected, and what it was actually like. Lisa had an eventful trip to Utah and Anna, well, let’s just say she ignored all that advice about not dating for the first year. 
Jun 19
22 min
Throwback Thursday: John Taylor on Fame, Cocaine and the 14-Year-Old Boy Still Running the Show
Before Recovery Rocks, Anna hosted Recover Girl, where conversations about addiction often turned into surprisingly deep discussions about ego, identity, fear and why nobody actually feels like a real adult. This Thursday Throwback features John Taylor of Duran Duran—yes, that John Taylor in the flesh.John talks about becoming a global pop star almost overnight, still living in his childhood bedroom after Rio became a massive hit and slowly realizing that alcohol and cocaine had become stronger than he was. He opens up about addiction, shame, resentment, celebrity, Catholicism, recovery and the strange reality that even successful adults are often still wrestling with younger versions of themselves.The conversation covers everything from partying through Duran Duran’s peak fame to why 12-step programs helped him stop blaming everyone else for his problems — and why most people have no idea how much work sobriety actually requires.If you’ve ever been hungry like the wolf to know John Taylor better, this is a can’t miss.
Jun 18
49 min
Sobriety, Sunsets and System Regulation with Kristin Horstman
Lisa chats with Kristin Horstman, whose new podcast, Sunsets Are the New Happy Hour, is a neuroscience-informed discussion of sobriety and behavioral changes that can make a positive impact. Come for the chat on rewiring your nervous system. Stay for the sunsets and glimmers.
Jun 12
31 min
Throwback Thursday: Moby on Why AA Makes Smart People Uncomfortable
Before Recovery Rocks, Anna hosted Recover Girl, where conversations about addiction and recovery were less “before-and-after success story” and more “let’s unpack the human condition for 45 minutes.” This Thursday Throwback features musician Moby in one of the most thoughtful recovery conversations we’ve ever aired. Moby talks about getting sober at 22 after years of chaotic drinking and drug use, throwing legendary degenerate parties in New York, relapsing after eight years of “insufferably sober” Christianity and eventually realizing AA wasn’t just a clubhouse for drunks — it was a spiritual program. The conversation goes everywhere: anonymity, ego, relapse, judgment, fear, God, hangovers in your 40s, why intelligent people resist AA and why two glasses of wine with dinner sounds completely pointless to a real alcoholic. Basically: if you’ve ever rolled your eyes at recovery clichés while secretly needing them anyway, this episode is for you. 
Jun 11
46 min
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