Tawny and Lisa chat with Betsy Frost, the CEO of Hoplark, a non-alcoholic beverage brand brewing hop teas and waters with layered flavors. They talk about the evolving NA drink scene and innovations. The drinks aren’t just for sober folks, but for anyone focused on their health and wellness. The also talk about mentorship for women in business, fostering leadership and community. Music Minute features the Minnesota Orchestra and Nathaniel Rateliff. Use promo code RECOVERY for 35% your order of Hoplark Preorder The Sobriety Deck  Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze. Subscribe to Tawny’s newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Tawny and Lisa talk with Ted Mandell, Associate Teaching Professor at the University of Notre Dame’s Department of Film, Television, and Theatre. Tawny has been a guest speaker for Ted’s class, “Drunk on Film: The Psychology of Storytelling with Alcohol and its Effects on Alcohol Consumption.” They talk about the reasons kids drink more when they get to college, the persistence of the excessive drinking culture, and ways to reframe how students think about alcohol. Music Minute features a one-week course Ted taught with Rock n Roll Hall of Fame inductee Todd Rundgren.  Check out the PBS Newshour feature about “Drunk on Film.” Check out the Drunk on Film website Preorder The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Tawny and Lisa talk about dry months and dry challenges. For folks considering getting sober, they’re a great way to take an intentional look at your drinking. They share ideas to set yourself up for success: grab an accountability buddy, stock your fridge with yummy NA drinks, and journal to reflect. But most of all, be gentle with yourself!   Music Minute features Monster Mash, Macy Gray, Pink, Natalie Merchant, and Taylor Swift. Check out author Hilary Sheinbaum’s Going Dry and The Dry Challenge Check out Fcking Sober podcast  Pre-order The Sobriety Deck  Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar   

Tawny and Lisa catch up at the end of summer on all that’s gone on and what they’re up to. They talk about Tawny’s honeymoon and the importance of taking a real break to recharge and reflect. Lisa talks about how if she was ever to believe Mercury Retrograde was a real thing, August would be the clincher. They also talk books, TV, and movies. Read The Hunter, The Safekeep, All Fours and Filter World: How Algorithms Flatten Culture.  TV/Movies: Julio Torres in Problemista and Fantasmas, and Love Off the Grid. Music Minute features the Tom Petty Wildflowers channel and the Bulwark pod songs playlist. Preorder The Sobriety Deck.  Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses)            `Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Tawny and Lisa chat about how finding hope in a period of stress and anxiety transforms their mental states. And acting on that hope reminds them that they do have power to try to change things. Since VP Kamala Harris became the Democratic Party’s candidate for the presidency, they both feel like a weight has been lifted physically and their mental health has improved significantly. It’s time to fight for our future! Music Minute features Charli XCX, Lil Jon, and Tupac.  Find resources for registering, volunteering and more at Vote Save America.  Volunteer to write letters with VoteForward.  Check out Judd Legum’s Popular Information Substack. Preorder The Sobriety Deck.  Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze. Sign up for Tawny’s newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar 

Hey fam! We’re on a summer break, but will be back soon. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this encore episode!This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoidTawny and Lisa talk with Laura Cathcart Robbins about her must-read new #quitlit memoir, “Stash, My Life in Hiding.” After concealing her addiction from everyone in her life, she sought recovery while facing divorce, the possibility of a grueling custody battle, and internalized racism. They talk about the power of trusting their intuition, the issues around divorce, and putting on a façade for the world. Laura also shares about “shide,” the painful mix of shame and Pride.Laura also is the host of the popular podcast, “The Only One In The Room,” and her recent articles in Huffpo and The Temper on the subjects of race, recovery, and divorce have garnered her worldwide acclaim.Music Minute features Amy Winehouse, Taylor Swift, Doja Cat, and The Weekend.You can find “Stash” hereLaura’s podcast On FacebookOn IGOn TwitterPre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the BoozePurchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Hey fam! We’re on a summer break, but will be back soon. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this encore episode!Tawny and Lisa talk to (and fangirl!) Ann Dowsett Johnston, the bestselling author of DRINK: THE INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN WOMEN AND ALCOHOL, the book that broke the story on the pinking of the alcohol market and the closing of the risky drinking gender gap. Now a psychotherapist, Ann also runs her popular memoir-writing course called Writing Your Recovery, open to women. They talk about the changes in the recovery community over the last 10 years and the power of writing our truth. To sign up for Ann’s October workshop, click here or here.  Music Minute features Van Morrison. This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks  Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Subscribe to Tawny’s sober dating advice column, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Click here to submit a question.  Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Hey fam! We’re on a summer break, but will be back soon. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this encore episode!Tawny and Lisa talk to Jolene Park, founder of Healthy Discoveries. Jolene is a functional nutritionist and a pioneer in the area of “gray area drinking,” the kind where there’s no rock bottom, but where one drinks to manage anxiety and later regrets how often or how much they drink. They talk about Jolene’s recent Substack piece on the online sober community and how it’s changed over time, including the problems with over commercialization and misrepresentations. Music Minute features Dolly Parton, Miley Cyrus and Bon Jovi Find all things Jolene: Gray Area Drinking website  Gray Area Drinking coach training for coaches Substack 30 day sober choice program Sober AF bundle Private coaching  Instagram Check out the Burnout Workbook Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for Tawny’s newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Hey fam! We’re on a summer break, but will be back soon. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this encore episode!This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoidTawny and Lisa interviewed actor, writer, and director Zach Braff! A Good Person, his latest film, is a gripping story of addiction, grief, and moving on. It stars Florence Pugh, Morgan Freeman, and Molly Shannon. The three of them discuss writing about addiction and grief, sober curiosity, how hobbies can help folks in recovery, and more.Music Minute features the role of music in Zach’s work. (We recommend the iconic soundtrack to his 2004 movie, Garden State!)
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Tawny and Lisa talk with Melissa Urban, the co-founder and CEO of Whole30 and an authority on helping people create lifelong healthy habits. She is a seven-time New York Times best-selling author, and her books have sold millions of copies in 20 languages. She lives in Salt Lake City, Utah, with her husband, son, and a poodle named Henry. Melissa is also in long-term recovery and the author of one of Recovery Rocks’ favorite books, The Book of Boundaries.   Music Minute features experiences and hiking to Chet Baker and Taylor Swift. Buy The New Whole30.  Find all things Whole30  Find all things Melissa here Follow Melissa on Instagram Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar