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Rob and Steve talk to Darryl Evans CEO of Mangere Budgeting Services about the state of poverty in NZ. A huge thanks to our guest Darryl Evans. Please support the great work he and his charity do every day for communities in need in New Zealand by getting in touch to volunteer or make a donation. Contact “The Budgeting and Family support service” based in Mangere, Otara or Tuakau. Freephone 0508 22 22 83 or visit their website here http://mangerebudgeting.org.nz/ Time code and Topics (Support Reality Hub by subscribing in Apple podcasts and use the time codes below to find your favourite bits of the show) 00:00 It’s Christmas time but some families of the working poor are struggling. 00:35 Today’s ep was truly eye opening. 00:45 Intro about Darryl Evans. CEO of Mangere Budgeting Services. 01:31 Please listen with an open heart. 01:51 We need to address this issue for all NZers. 02:18 If you’d like to help please see the links above for further info. 02:47 NZ is not the land of milk and honey as it used to be. 03:15 Intro music. 03:44 Is NZ a poor country? Is Auckland the most liveable city in the world? 04:17 There’s a whole community of people are struggling. High rents unsustainable. 05:03 Liveable rents should be 25% of your income. 05:41 State housing not so glamorous. 06:04 Housing NZ have seen the big picture. 07:00 NZ is a low wage economy. Most clients are pensioners, beneficiaries. 07:13 Two types of pensioners. 07:41 The rent is higher than the state pension and reliant on help. 08:11 The NZ dream of home ownership. Land of milk and honey. 08:54 The goal of owning your own home is still big. 09:34 Is the goal to own a home unreachable? 10:01 Three families living in one home. 10:54 Positives and negatives of many living under one roof. 11:33 Extending their current homes to accomodate looking after your parents. 12:06 What’s the poverty line? 12:20 Minimum wage and eradicating the word. Living wage.$24 12:50 National Supporters say: "Well if you're poor you can’t afford a holiday to Fiji!" 13:30 Always trying to keep the roof over your head. 14:00 8 - 9000 power disconnections going on each year in NZ 14:27 Paying better wages is a win win situation. 14:48 The reality is if you’re living an impoverished life your kids most likely get sick! And one or both parents have to take time off. 15:09 NZ is increasingly becoming poor. 15:25 Righteous points of view and saving your way out of poverty. 16:07 Homes are now more like 7 to 11 times your annual income. 16:50 in 2020 you can be working full time + over time and still never afford to own a home! 17:00 Many people are working 2 or 3 jobs just to get by. Ships in the night. 17:52 Having just enough money for a small reward. 18:16 Leading cause of poverty. Rising cost of private rentals. 19:09 The migration south and rents going up across the board. 19:49 Family had 7 increases of rent in 4 years! 20:05 People are having to move but there’s a cost. 20:46 Does it matter who’s in government? 21:25 The reason I do this job growing up poor. 21:50 My mum had to re-peal potato skins to make crisps. 22:41 Child poverty monitor report and statistics. 23:40 Currently Family of four spending $39 a week Example of family spending on groceries. 24:21 Food parcel types. "Whakama" - Cultural Shame and people too embarrassed to ask for help. 25:40 Homeless food parcels on the rise. 26:10 Paying it forward. 26:31 A vision for NZ. To survive and to contribute to society. 27:00 Lions Club and free entertainment. But vast majority of poor families refuse the treat as they can’t afford the gas to get there. 27:47 How does poverty affect society? It impacts both mental and physical health. 28:23 Pensioners can’t afford the heating and living in the cold. Emotional wellbeing. 29:08 Poverty is not racist and affects everyone. 29:14 Growing up in a poor family. Solo parenthood. 29:57 Poverty has an affect on the whole community. 30:18 Everyone knows someone who is struggling. Cultural shame it’s ok to reach out. 31:00 0508 22 22 83 ABC Budgeting. Social services. 31:45 We are not a third world country yet people still go without. 32:12 Hungry kids not going to school. 32:40 Changing the perception of poverty and consumerism. 33:15 A lot of people are not having a festive time. 33:42 Buy now and pay later. Credit. Repayments. 85% of contracts are set up to fail with loans. 34:32 Financial literacy in schools and education. 35:20 Nice story about Tongan pensioner. Educating her children. 36:00 Discussing money matters at home. 36:54 Darryl’s high school story about knowing if your home is owned or rented. 37:28 Darryl’s on son and his financial education. 38:41 Dec 11 the most common day for relationship break ups. 39:30 Relationship counselling and living in debt is extremely stressful. Impact on children. 40:16 Stressful time of the year. Move away from a commercial christmas. 41:00 Experiences over buying presents and quality time. 42:00 The programme of commercialism and material possessions. 42:40 Buying and spending and feeling the reward. 43:10 Buy only if you can afford it. 43:15 Budget ways to make presents. 43:40 People are hardest hit by bills in February. 44:05 Future goals and retirement and thinking ahead. 44:10 Worry about kiwis that haven’t achieved home ownership. 45:35 Having a comfortable retirement. 46:03 NZ was always the land of milk and honey. 46:30 If you could change the country what would you do to make it better? 46:45 We need more affordable houses. 47:24 Mixed model housing and it’s benefits. 48:08 London wages system. 49:42 Really proud of all the people we have helped and changed their lives. 50:19 The thing I really hate about some property development at the moment. 50:00 So many people are living in motel rooms. 50:22 Story of living in a motel room and it’s costs. 51:10 Darryl’s real life church story at his talk. 51:55 Countdown story of how many people queued for a job. 52:50 Living on the dole vs working. 53:35 Listening to the experts income and benefits have to rise. 54:20 Schools and financial literacy. 54:46 Mangere budgeting teaching 1000’s of students. 55:18 The ⅓ rule of pocket money teaching good habits. 55:58 Student debt a good thing? 56:40 Problem with students of leaving home and coping. 57:20 Last thoughts from Darryl. 57:50 Volunteering and teaching empathy. 58:15 Lets bring a bit of brightness to someone. 58:42 Budgeting and Family support services. Mangere, Otara or Tuakau. Freephone 0508 22 22 83 http://mangerebudgeting.org.nz/ Merry Christmas from Reality Hub x 59:36 Outro music.

