Perkins is not above the classic fallacy of “When this man says X he really means Y,” then bashes Y without acknowledging X, the actual remark. He posits that David Deida is simply dressing old-world gender binaries of relationship in modern/spiritual wording. This is proof he has not actually retained Deida’s book. Deida spends entire pages detailing why women need to be worshipped and respected instead of controlled. I guess I need to remind Perkins: old-world gender roles revolved around men literally controlling women. Tell them what to do, apply physical force if you have to, make sure she’s submissive in bed, don’t let them gain any over your roles as a man (Deida says constantly to stave off philistines like you that women can play as many masculine roles as the like). Congratulations on wasting a scholar’s teachings on your ideologue mire. I also did not appreciate your lackadaisical musings on Esther Perel, especially when you cited good things she said that Deida has also said almost exactly.

As a woman who loves men, I am so moved and encouraged when listening to this smart, heartfelt and much needed podcast. Thank God, there are men like you in the world, and thank God you are able and willing to shine a light on these topics in such an articulate, grown up, heart centered way.

Arjuna bring great insight into looking at the modern man and how to be an emotionally intelligent man with all the old messages from days past. I find his commentary and guests give me a better understanding of the new masculine and helps me shape and redefine what that means to me. It also shows me that there are others out there looking to evolve the conversation around masculinity.

Insightful. A brave venture. Will keep learning.

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