Prog & Progeny
Prog & Progeny
Mark Kelly & Tallulah Kelly
Prog and Progeny is a podcast hosted by father-daughter duo Mark (keyboardist for Marillion) and Tallulah, exploring his life in music, the ups and downs of being in a band, and the personal stories in between. Episodes loosely follow chapters from Mark’s memoir Marillion, Misadventures & Marathons, with space for honest conversations, the occasional guest, and plenty of tangents.
Sounds That Can't Be Made - Part 1
We jump forward to 2012's Sounds That Can't Be Made. We discuss the writing and recording of the first half of the album track by track.
Aug 26
1 hr 2 min
Script for a Jester's Tear, Part 2
We wrap up our two-parter on Marillion's 1983 debut, moving from the songs the band left behind to the reasons they did. Also, the gear and the studio decisions that shaped how the record sounds, where Fish was drawing his lyrics from, and what it's like to hear your first album again 40+ years on.Links: The Web trumpet interpretation by Gil Pinatel that we discussed in this episode can be heard here https://youtu.be/LDW5K4Wx8bc?is=2Gb5JlemgdmCcqMu
Aug 12
48 min
Mini Episode: Pompeii and Sugar Mice (in the rain)
A short catch-up episode. Mark and Tallulah discuss their Pompeii experience — the choir, the pre-show keyboard crisis, playing "Sugar Mice" in the rain — plus podcast meetups, the UK tour and more...
Aug 5
13 min
Sticking To The Script
Mark and Tallulah deep dive into Script For A Jester's Tear, Marillion's 1983 debut — six songs, forty-six minutes, more chaos than the record lets on. Razor-blade multi-track edits, £1,000 for Trevor McDonald was too much, a secret backwards message meant only for Kayleigh, and stories behind Mark Wilkinson's cover art. Plus: plague pits, a stolen Small Faces melody, and the bass fluff that made the final mix.He Knows you Know early demo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l507pRZEz4
Jul 22
1 hr 3 min
The Final Chapter: Cement Mixer Blues
Mark joins Tallulah from backstage in Bonn as Marillion's German tour begins with the live debut of "Ribbons and Lace." The book's final chapter covers the story behind "Gaza," the Frankfurt cement mixer accident, sudden hearing loss, marathon mishaps, a famous F1 fan, and a Nick Cave encounter.
Jul 8
1 hr 7 min
Update
A little pre-tour update...
Jul 2
4 min
David Stopps & Marillion — The Friars Aylesbury Story
Mark and Tallulah are joined by David Stopps, the promoter behind Friars Aylesbury, which he founded in 1969 and has run for 56 years. David recalls the club's earliest nights — including King Crimson and Genesis — managing Marillion for 5 short weeks, managing Howard Jones, and the Kickstarter behind Aylesbury's David Bowie "Earthly Messenger" statue. Plus Marillion's hometown return on 21 September.Links:How to make a Living from Music - David StoppsDavid Bowie "Earthly Messenger" statue, AylesburyFriars AylesburyStagehand (the road-crew charity David fundraised for during Covid)
Jun 24
50 min
Unknown Unknowns: Guy Vickers on Lawsuits, Lyrics and Marathon
Mark and Tallulah are joined by Guy Vickers — barrister by day, musician and lyricist by night — the man behind the lyrics on Mark Kelly's Marathon and the legal brain behind Marillion's battle with EMI.00:25 — Introducing Guy: weekend warrior, full-time barrister03:13 — How Pete's dinner introduction kicked off the EMI streaming dispute06:03 — The dissolved companies crisis: six months to save the pre-'96 royalties10:05 — Pitching the box sets to EMI, and Fish's pub reunion proposal13:27 — Marathon begins: number stations, spies and lyrics as relationship code19:30 — The Anthropocene concept and what makes a human human21:02 — Writing Amelia and 2051: Earhart, Kubrick, Clarke and Stephen Hawking23:00 — Finding Ollie and hearing Amelia sung for the first time in New Orleans29:15 — Why "Marathon"? The Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow logic34:07 — The lost song about plagiarism (and Led Zeppelin's borrowed blues)39:00 — Why Amelia crashed: Morse code, blind spots and unknown unknowns43:47 — Wingsuits, risk and how you'd want to go out
Jun 9
45 min
The Queen Nearly Got Our Royalties
This week we dive into Mark's years on the FAC and PPL boards, fighting for artists' rights while Marillion were being short-changed by their old EMI deal. The lawsuit that followed and the after-the-event insurance gambit, the sleepless night when EMI claimed Marillion had no legal standing because Marillion Limited had been dissolved! Plus the Portugal writing session that ended in a tactless row with H over a lyric, and the six-month silence that followed.
May 26
1 hr 2 min
How We Learnt to Admit When a Song Isn't Good Enough
This week Mark calls in from Peter Gabriel's Real World Studios — with a quick video tour and the story of meeting Peter Gabriel for the first time.Then into deputising for Adam Wakeman in Travis (with "drink beer" written across half the setlist) and a candid post-mortem on Somewhere Else — the dropped pre-order, the EP that never was, Mike Hunter's confidence taking a hit, and which songs hold up (and which really don't). Plus "Almost a Midwife Mark", and the tweet that got Mark to delete Twitter, tour meet-ups, and a Marillion quiz coming for Patreon members.
May 13
1 hr 1 min
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