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Why This Episode Matters:This episode is a deep, grounded reminder that longevity in music doesn’t come from chasing trends or algorithms. It comes from doing the work, living life, and letting experience shape the sound. Recorded in person at Nothing_Neue’s Brooklyn studio, the conversation is reflective, practical, and quietly powerful.Who is Nothing_Neue:Nothing_Neue is a Brooklyn-based producer and artist whose work sits at the intersection of broken beat, soul, hip-hop, and experimental rhythm. Alongside his own artistic output, he works within the music tech world, giving him a rare dual perspective on creativity, industry pressure, and identity.What We Dive Into:* Why living life is essential to making meaningful music* The danger of chasing “radio friendly” or algorithm-approved sounds* Separating your artistic identity from your day job* Morning practice, discipline, and removing creative pressure* Letting unfinished ideas have value instead of forcing outcomes* Why support has to be active, not passive* Choosing an unconventional path and accepting unconventional resultsThree Key Takeaways:* You can’t skip life and expect great art: Music gets better when it’s informed by lived experience, not constant output.* Unconventional paths come with unconventional timelines: If you choose authenticity, you have to accept results that don’t mirror anyone else’s.* Practice removes pressure: When music has a guaranteed place in your day, everything else becomes bonus time.Before You Go:If you’ve been forcing productivity or measuring your work against someone else’s success, take a step back. Build your walls, rooms, and houses before worrying about the final home. Progress isn’t always loud.Chapters:0:00 – In-studio intro from Brooklyn0:57 – D’Angelo, life experience, and making music too close to the work2:46 – Why living life improves creativity4:04 – Gym vs bike analogy for creative process4:46 – Printing demos and listening away from the studio6:45 – Distance, objectivity, and breaking critical habits9:28 – Substances, creativity, and emotional avoidance11:42 – Pain, avoidance, and emotional honesty13:48 – Family, mortality, and confronting old wounds16:55 – Reprioritizing time, discipline, and energy19:57 – Discovering The Big Leap and the upper-limit problem24:38 – Self-imposed ceilings and early musical validation28:46 – Playlist Retreat, imposter syndrome, and belonging32:54 – Music as a communal experience36:12 – Letting ego step aside for collaboration40:41 – Translating inspiration into technique45:24 – How Nothing Neue practices instruments48:54 – Learning taste, preference, and musical language52:02 – Weed, reading, and rethinking time55:18 – Walls, Rooms, Houses, Homes creative framework58:53 – Morning practice and removing pressure1:03:18 – Weekday vs weekend creative routines1:05:24 – Recent releases and upcoming remixes1:06:27 – Favorite hardware and inspirations1:07:41 – Artists that changed his thinking1:07:57 – Best free tools and YouTube as education1:12:55 – Learning fundamentals vs chasing shortcuts1:17:44 – Rapid-fire questions1:18:33 – Loneliness in the music industry1:20:06 – Underrated “product” for creatives1:21:26 – Advice ignored and advice worth ignoring1:23:24 – Authenticity over chasing radio success1:24:40 – Undoing algorithms and passive consumption1:27:21 – Active support, community, and closing thoughts1:29:02 – Final recap and ProducerHead outroList of References from the Interview:Songs / Artists* D’Angelo* Lyric JonesBooks* Making Records by Phil RamoneHardware / Tools* SP-404* Alpha Juno* SeratoConnect with Nothing_Neue:* YouTube: @NothingNeue* Instagram: @nothing_neue* Spotify: Nothing_Neue* Apple Music: Nothing_NeueConnect with Toru:* Website: torubeat.com* Instagram: @torubeat* YouTube: @torubeat* Spotify: Toru* Apple Music: ToruCredits:This episode was co-produced, engineered and edited by Matthew Diaz. From ProducerHead, this is Toru, and in a way, so are you. Peace. Get full access to ProducerHead at producerhead.substack.com/subscribe
