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As we close out 2025 and head straight into divorce season, Lauren & Chanler are joined by their favorite recurring guest — their dad, a longtime divorce attorney — for one of your most-requested annual episodes.From Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce’s hypothetical prenup to Golden Bachelor drama, Real Housewives breakups, and messy celebrity divorces, Dad breaks down what actually matters legally (and what’s pure Hollywood fiction).Plus, we answer listener questions on:Prenups vs. no prenupsWhat really happens after 10 years of marriageSubstance abuse, gambling, and domestic violence in divorceWhy mediation without a lawyer can go very wrongRed flags to watch for when dating divorceesIt’s informative, unfiltered, funny, and slightly unhinged — exactly how we like to ring in the New Year. 🥂⚖️⏱️ Timestamps00:00 — Welcome to divorce season 🎄➡️💔01:45 — Introducing Dad (and why listeners love him) 👨⚖️❤️04:00 — Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce: billionaire prenups explained 💍💰08:30 — Do you really need a prenup? 🤔📜12:45 — When prenups backfire emotionally 😬15:10 — The 10-year marriage rule (myth vs reality) 🔟⚖️18:40 — Nicole Kidman & Keith Urban’s sobriety clause 🧾🚫🍷22:15 — Golden Bachelor divorce + protecting kids’ inheritances 👴💍27:00 — Kyle Richards & Mauricio: separation dates explained 🏠📅31:30 — Vocational evaluations & “fake unemployment” 💼📉34:45 — Divorcing someone with a drinking problem 🍺🚫39:10 — Dating before divorce: does the court care? 💔➡️❤️41:45 — Trusts, inheritances & when kids get paid 💼👨👩👧44:30 — Higher-earning wives & alimony fears 💸⚖️47:20 — Red flags when dating divorced men 🚩👀49:40 — Secret gambling & breach of marital trust 🎰🚫52:30 — Why mediation without a lawyer is dangerous ⚠️📄55:10 — Emotional abuse vs physical abuse in divorce 🧠⚖️57:00 — Final advice, family love & New Year send-off 🥂❤️Clean Simple Eats: Visit CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 at checkout for 20% off your order.EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code PA20 for 20% off.Functional Health: Visit www.functionhealth.com/POPAPOLOGISTS or use gift code POPAPOLOGISTS100 at sign-up to own your health.Macy's: Shop at https://www.macys.com or in stores now!HERS Hair: Visit forhers.com/APOLOGISTS to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you.Drip Drop: Go to dripdrop.com and use promo code POP for 20% off.Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.