Chris Ferguson recommended the Atari 2600 console. Sam Illingworth recommended Betrayal at House on the Hill  Pete Etchells recommeded Untitled Goose Game Sam Wake recommended Cain's Jawbone Nic Whitton recommended the Librarian's Almanaq Holly Gramazio recommended Board games to create and play I recommended a few things: The floor is lava Board games in 100 moves Quest for El Dorado Ticket to Ride London

Aiyana's brilliant article for Scientific American is here Her blog, all of which is 100% worth reading, is here

Margaret talked about a few games Subnautica My time at Portia She used the following toys in her research Toca Boca tea party Osmo Code-a-pillar Maggi's research interests https://www.sldo.ac.uk/ https://dart.ed.ac.uk/research/autism-tech-play/ She's on @_mlaurie

Paul Wake is a big part of the Manchester games studies network: https://www.manchestergamestudies.org/ His current kickstarter is at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1010climateaction/carbon-city-zero If you're interested in the zones of play by Scott Rogers: https://mrbossdesign.blogspot.com/2019/07/ I've listed the games we talked about here: https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/262898/games-i-talked-paul-wake-about-play-thing

If you want to catch up with Holly's writing, here's a taster: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/03/11/players-react-to-video-games-in-unexpected-ways-and-scary-edutainment-games-prove-it/ https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/games/2019/08/moral-panic-over-fortnite-and-purpose-play The book she referenced was indeed called Historia Ludens and is published by Routledge. She's @nielsen_holly on Twitter.

Minkette (@mink_ette on twitter) is a designer of games of all sorts, as well as a speaker and podcaster. Mink mentions this book: https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Donald-A-Norman/The-Design-of-Everyday-Things/15109431 The ERIC conference (http://ericuk.org/) where Mink is speaking Escape room reviews:UK:  http://exitgames.co.uk/. https://thelogicescapesme.com/ US: https://escapegameaddicts.wordpress.com/

James' book, Board Games in 100 moves, is out on the 5th September: https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Board-Games-in-100-Moves-by-Ian-Livingstone-author-James-Wallis-author/9781465485755 James can be found on twitter @jameswallis And his consultancy Spaaace can be accessed via his website: http://www.jameswallis.com/

Max talks to Holly Gramazio, game designer and curator, about her work and when play is bad!

Where to start? Max starts off comparing Jason to a burlesque dancer, then Jason sings to illustrate the concept of trauma.  They talk about a ton of games they love and end up debating whether flow is a self-centred phenomenon! Who is Jason, you may ask... Listen to find out. (or go to @engn_podcast on twitter)

Max is joined by the very brilliant Nic Whitton. She is @nicwhitton on Twitter. The playful learning conference is here  Liz Hargrave designed Wingspan and has Tussie Mussie coming soon. For some reason Max forgot to say the name of the first game