Education systems throughout the world confront crises of varying degree – from disease outbreak, conflict, to natural disasters. Ministries of education on the frontline must take on a leadership role to maintain learning for all. What factors influence leadership, and why does it matter?IIEP-UNESCO programme specialists Stephanie Bengtsson and Anna Seeger speak with Professor Leon Tikly and Dr Rafael Mitchell from the University of Bristol, to explain.Produced by Stephanie Bengtsson, Anna Seeger, Alexandra Waldhorn and Sarah Elzas, who edited and mixed the episode.Music by Robert Meunier