Dr. Robert Glover is the author of No More Mr. Nice Guy — one of the most impactful books on male psychology of the last two decades — and the founder of Integration Nation, a men's membership program with members worldwide. He joins Michael from Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, where he lives with his wife, his pit bull Nala, and a gym ten feet from his office that he still finds excuses not to use.In this conversation, Michael and Dr. Glover go deep on the hidden mechanics of the nice guy syndrome — the toxic shame, the counterfeit apologies, the anxiety management disguised as kindness — and what it actually takes to move out of it. They talk about masculine initiation, the New Warrior Training Adventure, the sweat lodge, and why challenge is not punishment but medicine. They get personal: Michael shares the dark night of the soul that sent him through the initiation process, and Dr. Glover reflects on 40 years of working with men, three marriages, and what he's still learning about his own nervous system.The conversation ends with Ernie — a German expat in Puerto Vallarta who lived by one principle: it's a sin to say no when you should have said yes. And a mortal sin.