Dear Slushies, we have a confession. The first draft of these show notes included references to Wawa, Jason's sweet tooth, the relative repulsiveness of hot milk shakes, and professional wrestling. But then we realized that approach eclipsed what this episode illuminates: the poetic trend of self-reflexive gestures like the one we just made, confessing that this isn't the first draft! Listen in as we discuss Krysten Hill's poem "Are We Still Good?" The poem challenges us to think about analogy, metaphor, and narrativity. How poets can stage the occasion for a speaker's confessional reflection via the spark of a story plucked from our information dense mediascape -- revealing what it means to feel terror when that terror might otherwise be dismissed. How does she do this? Manatees and memes, silence, and a meta-textual turn. Enjoy!
PS Samantha also references this great essay by John Shoptaw on eco poetry. Dig in!
At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller, Marion Wrenn, Dagne Forrest, Jason Schneiderman, Samanatha Neugebauer
Krysten Hill is the author of How Her Spirit Got Out (Aforementioned Productions, 2016), which received the 2017 Jean Pedrick Chapbook Prize. Her work has recently appeared in or is forthcoming from The Academy of American Poets' Poem-a-Day Series, Poetry Magazine, PANK, Up the Staircase Quarterly, Winter Tangerine Review,Rust + Moth and elsewhere. She is a recipient of the 2020 Mass Cultural Council Poetry Fellowship, 2023 Vermont Studio Center Residency, and 2024 SWWIM Residency.
Author website
Are We Still Good?
According to officials, the animal does not appear to be seriously injured.
Someone adds in the comments that, Obviously, it was just a joke.
Calm down, Liberals. Highlights the part in the article where
the man’s name was scraped onto algae growing on its skin.
From what they could see, nothing was truly threatened.
The sea cow was probably too dumb and fat to feel anything.
I think of all the ways cruelty begins as a joke until
it chooses to finish what it started. The friend I’d known for years
didn’t stop when I asked and asked again. I thought maybe he didn’t hear me.
Later, he told our mutual friend that, Things just got out of hand.
I thought she knew I was just playing. I remember when I was sure he heard me,
I recognized it was my fear that made him smile so loud. Still, I attempt
to explain the surprise. At least I didn’t die there, I tell myself. Even here,
I wrote that as the first line of this poem and buried it. Anyways,
he had work in the morning, offered to drive me home.
I didn’t have to walk back to my dorm in the snow. I laughed
at everything he said on the way and tried not to let him see
my hands shake when I took the gum he offered me. He asked,
Are we still good? I chewed my tongue, relieved that I could
do something else with my mouth until he parked, unlocked
the door to let me out. I thanked him. I was so scared that I didn’t run.
Apr 10, 2024
41 min
Episode 123: The Catholic Episode
Dear Slushies, we have a confession. We love being close readers as much as we love being close listeners. And if you are a fan of this podcast, we know the same is true for you. We’re delighted to consider Charlie Peck’s poems “Cowboy Dreams” and “Bully in the Trees” in this episode. We’re talking about unreliable narrators, homeric epithets, dramatic enjambments, and the difference between small “c” catholicism and capital “C” Catholicism. Confession and exultation, Slushies! Floating signifiers and The Sopranos. It’s a doozy! We hope you love listening in as much as we loved considering Charlie Peck’s poems for PBQ.
(Oh, and we excitedly celebrate Jason’s fifth collection launching in April, Portrait of Icarus as a Country on Fire!)
At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller, Marion Wrenn, Jason Schneiderman, Samanatha Neugebauer
Charlie Peck is from Omaha, Nebraska and received his MFA from Purdue University. His poetry has appeared previously in Cincinnati Review, Ninth Letter, Massachusetts Review, and Best New Poets 2019, among others. His first collection, World’s Largest Ball of Paint, is the winner of the 2022 St. Lawrence Book Award from Black Lawrence Press and is forthcoming April 2024.
Twitter: @chip_nutter
Cowboy Dreams
Winedrunk along the river on a Tuesday,
boy howdy, my life. I ignore another
call from my mother because today
is about the matted grass and the skipping trout.
When my brother jumps companies
after the Christmas bonus, it’s Ruthless.
When I pillage the family silver
to slick forty bucks at a pawn shop,
It’s time you start thinking about recovery.
Instinct makes me wreck anyone who comes
too close. You ever snapped a dog’s
stick just to watch his ears drop? I’m Catholic
with how quick I loose my tongue to confess,
my guilt just a frequency my ears quit hearing.
One snowy May in the Colorado mountains, I stripped
to my underwear and raised my pack to wade
the glacial river. Dried by a fire with a pot
of beans. All night I dreamt of my lasso
and revolver, riding the hot-blooded horse
alone across the plains, no one in sight to hurt.
Bully in the Trees
Indiana cornfields leave so much
to be desired, and lately I’ve desired nothing
but clean sheets and pretzel bread. For a decade
I was ruthless, took whatever I wanted:
last donut in the office breakroom, merged
lanes out of turn. I stole my roommate’s
change jar, sat on the floor of a Wells Fargo
rolling quarters to buy an eighth. In this new year,
I promise I’ll stop being the loudest in the room
like a bear ravaging a campsite just to be the bully
in the trees. For so long I thought my cruelty
was the world’s fault, my stubbed toe blamed
on the coffee table’s leg, not my stumbling in the dark.
Throwing every fish back to the river
doesn’t forgive the hooked hole I caused.
Once, I undressed a woman in the giraffe enclosure,
but maybe that was a Soprano’s episode. Once,
my life was so ordinary I replaced it
with the things I saw on television. I ate fifty
hard-boiled eggs. I robbed the bank and screamed
Attica! I stood in the trees cuffing the Nebraska
suburb and watched my mother set the table
through the window. A porcelain plate at each chair.
My ordinary life stranged by the window frame.
If I fall asleep before the credits, let me dream the rest.
My pockets are empty, but the metal detector still shrieks.
Mar 26, 2024
40 min
Dearest Slushies, we’re so happy to be back in the saddle! We took a mini-hiatus and return with this episode devoted to the poems of Jodi Balas. You’ll hear us mull over her artful use of concrete poetry and dive deep into her thinking about poetry, the body, and NFTs. How does a poem’s form entwine with its image system in order to serve its sense? How is taste also (always) about power? All of these questions are wrapped in a glittering cascade of editorial acumen and quirky dishing: Listen as Dagne explains the difference between NFTs and Cryptocurrency, reminding us of Rattle’s prescient issue dedicated to NFT poets. Or let us know what you think: should “mini cocktails” ever be a thing for happy hours? Is “drinkable” ever a compliment? Can we make a meme of Jason’s seductive eyebrow skills? In addition to the following links you might dig– NFTs explained in 5 Minutes & Brit Bennett’s “Ain't That Good News”-- we invite you to contemplate the ritual of champagne sabering (if you try this in your backyard, shout “Poetry!”) With best wishes for a happy new year from the Slush Pile Crew.
At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller, Marion Wrenn, Jason Schneiderman, Dagne Forrest, Samanatha Neugebauer
Jodi Balas is a neurodivergent poet from Northeast Pennsylvania. A lover of words (salacious, being a favorite – it just rolls off the tongue), her poetry has been accepted in Hole in the Head Review, Wild Roof Journal, Humana Obscura, Pinch Journal, and elsewhere. Jodi’s poem, “His mouth, mine” was selected as a finalist for the 2023 River Heron Review poetry prize and her poem, “Bone Density” won the 2023 Comstock Review Muriel Craft Bailey Award judged by Danusha Lameris. Jodi is in the process of developing her first chapbook to market to the poetry world. You could follow her musings on Instagram @jodibalas_
WALKING TO SURRENDER
The ghost at my side, the knife in my coat pocket hanging on the coat rack. I yield to morning in apprehension almost every morning. I’m hardening, becoming the weight of two dead trees. A spool of thread wound so tight, it’s hard to find the starting point - the dull tip of a needle is useless. I try and unknot the shoelace from yesterday, the muscle of memory below the ribs and figure out which direction I’m headed or which route is correct for my mental state I’ve been trying to correct but cannot correct until I surrender entirely to the blinding wave of fear.
MY BODY AS AN NFT
Allow me to unshackle your wrists, bring you up off your knees & up to speed. Call me a good investment, the originalcopy. Non-refundable, metallic over bone, wire over skin – untethered,the virtual sin. You cannot use me in some side hustle, sleight of hand deal. I am my own creator. Watch how I catapult through your veins and rush you faster than a thief with a shank. Electric/cryptic#mytongueisdigitalweightBegging for a bit of action you’re not sure how to obtain. Tell me, is there mutual interest? I cantell you that I’m priceless. Watch closely before I become a liability, before your pockets explode, before the scales begin to re-balance themselves.
Mar 19, 2024
48 min
In this episode we discussed three very different poems by Oregon poet Lorna Rose, all three resulting in juicy conversation and resulting in three tie-breakers (none of them involving the same voting configurations amongst our team!). This was a big first for us. The episode was kicked off by a larger discussion (prompted by the first poem) around aspects of cultural appropriation and touched on facets of trauma and language. This wide-ranging discussion and the split in our voting pointed to the power and ambiguity of various elements in these poems. In the end, a tie-breaking editor helped deliver two of these poems into PBQ’s pages! Have a listen!
Note: This episode was recorded in December 2021, so there will be a bit of time travel involved.
This episode is brought to you by our sponsor Wilbur Records, who kindly introduced us to the artist is A.M.Mills whose song “Spaghetti with Loretta” now opens our show.
At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller, Marion Wrenn, Jason Schneiderman, Alex Tunney
Absentee voter for the tie-breakers: Samanatha Neugebauer
Links to things we discuss you might like to check out:
"Declaration" by Tracy K. Smith, an erasure poem of the Declaration of Independence
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/147468/declaration-5b5a286052461
"Native Son" by Richard Wright
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1992/07/20/the-hammer-and-the-nail
"Appropriate: A Provocation" by Paisley Rekdal
https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324003588
"How-To" by Anders Carlson Wee and retraction by The Nation
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/how-to/
"Inside Kate Winlset's Mare of Easttown" Pennsylvania Accent, Vanity Fair
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/04/kate-winslet-mare-of-easttown-accent
Lorna is a Pacific Northwest writer and speaker. Her narrative nonfiction and poetry have been recognized by Pacific Northwest Writers Association and the Oregon Poetry Association, and have appeared or are forthcoming in Scary Mommy, Jellyfish Review, Painted Bride Quarterly, Writers Resist, and elsewhere. She's also a speaker and workshop leader. When not wrangling her two small children, she fantasizes about being interviewed on NPR’s Fresh Air.
Author website
Leaving Libya
I flood my lungs
with the wet stench of fish and bodies and fuel.
Dinghy motor whines against the night.
Salt air grinds my skin ‘til it’s threadbare and
there’s no sitting since leaving Sabratha.
Body clenches tight to its bones
and shrill muscles shriek and weep and lock up.
Damp t-shirt clings to goosebumped flesh under a
tattered orange life jacket. But what life?
Next to me a shaking woman holds her boney baby
and cries. She has shit herself.
Behind me a man mumbles and mumbles for water.
His eyes roll hollow,
mouth slacks open.
From his breath
I smell the thick stink of rot,
the gray smell of
forgotten humanity.
Lights of the Italian coastline appear and
my heart races,
vision blurs.
From somewhere behind there’s a jolt.
Yelling.
Floor tilts.
And the lights of Lampedusa go black.
Surviving the Rush
No music plays in
the general store in Circle, Alaska,
which is full of mukluks and
Wonder Bread.
Villagers fish the Yukon,
memorize river rise,
bet on
breakup.
Long ago miners arrived from Outside
to sift, chip
rip fortunes
from earth.
Stilts were drilled into permafrost and
structures were imposed and
all bustle and
rage.
Then claims fell dry and
no patience and Circle started to
wither.
The locals
picked up pieces of buildings, tried to
heal the
pock-marked ground.
Today a tourist’s crisp dollar might
mean something,
except the locals would have to tolerate
the perfumey tourist.
Villagers fish the Yukon,
memorize river rise,
bet on breakup. The soil smells of
fool’s gold and blood.
Oct 24, 2023
55 min
Slushies, in this episode we consider two poems by C. Fausto Cabrera, both of which speak, in very different ways, to the imagination in building our sense of self. The notion of being seen, a topic of universal relevance to any writer or artist, is explored in the first poem, which ends with the line “stuck in between the covers wondering when you’ll be back”, simultaneously exploring themes of incarceration or imprisonment. This discussion leads us to consider the many layers of being seen and Jason takes a moment to appreciate the “sexy time” of having a book tucked in your pocket. The second poem takes us on a related yet palpably different journey and reveals one of the paths our editorial discussions can take us to. Take a listen, you won’t be disappointed!
This episode is brought to you by our sponsor Wilbur Records, who kindly introduced us to the artist is A.M.Mills whose song “Spaghetti with Loretta” now opens our show.
At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller, Jason Schneiderman, Samantha Neugebauer, and Dagne Forrest.
C. Fausto Cabrera is a multi-genre artist and writer currently incarcerated since 2003. His work has appeared in: The Colorado Review, The Antioch Review, Puerto del Sol, The American Literary Review, The Water~Stone Review, The Woodward Review, among others. "The Parameters of Our Cage" is his prose collaboration with photographer Alec Soth.
To Be Seen at All ,
"What makes us so deserving of space
in other people' s minds?"
-Daniel Ruiz
My boss in the kitchen asks me how it felt to be famous
after looking up my Washington Post Magazine
essay & cover art online. The question left me stuck
I didn't feel famous. I hadn't received much mail in years.
What does celebrity mean separate from saturation, fame to
the incarcerated— but infamy?
I question the value of telling people about accomplishments,
about publishing at all— in a place where your spades
game gets more respect, & swagger's stuck in the last time you punched a
muthafucker in the face, what' s the point? I just felt petty
for wanting to be seen at all. Guards are more concerned
with how many towels I have than who I become.
I'm being heard— & that should be the focus, right?
Is the nobility of a thing in or on purpose? Or the other
way around? Cause who ever does anything for nobility—
I'm starving to be objectified: stripped down by the new young blond
guard like a Skinamax late nite B-movie, why else do hundreds
of burpees if not to play into the bad boy fantasies of anyone watching?
I went away before social media, but had my Lil’ cousin Artesia build
me a platform to stand upon, thinkin' it'd present me
somehow, someway, maybe keep me present— be on someone's mind or
wall, admired even for a moment. The Past says they miss me, but
since they never reach past the screen it's not the real me,
only their memory. It’s not about me at all—and neither should the work be.
There is a point to this poem, in its lack of trust. & none of it is an answer.
How can I count on anything through a 2-way mirror? I am just
a writer, the world through my eyes glows different due to the depths of my
damage. When you close this book & move on
I'll still be stuck in-between the covers,
wondering when you'll be back.
In the Sun that Seeps from the Dungeons/ Window/ Everything is Bright
Because God is in an algorithm I hear through the toggle of my shuffle button/ from a playlist I
composed/ I tell myself/ that if I listen, while the TV projects a pretty face to see when I look up
from what I'm reading of poetry, mechanical pencil, click, click, underlining & taking notes in
the margins— sipping a mug of French vanilla creamer laden coffee w/thoughts swirling in my
Oct 6, 2023
37 min
When to break a line, Slushies. And why? What’s the shape your poem takes, and how does the poem’s form serve its complexities, subtleties, and heart? Three poems by Karl Meade are up for consideration in this episode of The Slush Pile, and they call the editors into conversation about trauma in literature, narrative (in)coherence as craft, and the pleasurable risks of stair-stepped stanzas. Poet L.J. Sysko joins the conversation on this episode of The Slush Pile as we discuss “Beach Fall,” “Christmas Break,” and “Doom Eager.” (If a tree falls in the woods, Slushies. Ammiright?)
At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller, Marion Wrenn, L. J. Sysko, Jason Schneiderman, Samantha Neugebauer, Alex J. Tunney
Karl Meade’s work been published in many literary magazines, a few of which he didn’t even donate heavily to, or previously serve as editor—including Literary Review of Canada, Tusculum Review, Arc Poetry Magazine, Grain Magazine, Chronogram, Umbrella Factory Magazine, Contemporary Verse 2, Event Magazine, The Fiddlehead, Open Letter, Under the Sun, and Dandelion. His work has also been mistakenly longlisted for four CBC Literary Prizes, shortlisted for The Malahat Review’s Open Season Creative Nonfiction Award, and Arc Poetry Magazine’s Poem of the Year. His novel, Odd Jobs, written as a solemn literary manifesto, was a finalist for the Foreword Reviews Book of the Year for Humor, and an iTunes Top 20 Arts and Literature podcast—“Laugh Out Loud,” one listener said of this grave work.
Karl’s chapbook “Doom Eager” has just been released in September 2023 by Raven Chapbooks, just in time for us to publish this podcast, which has waited longer than it should for release!
Author website: www.karlmeade.com
Guest Editor: L.J. Sysko
L.J. Sysko's work has been published in Voicemail Poems, The Pinch, Ploughshares, Rattle, Best New Poets, and elsewhere. She is the author of a poetry chapbook, BATTLEDORE (Finishing Line Press, New Women's Voices series). Poetry honors include several Dorothy Sargent Rosenberg awards, two fellowships from Delaware's Division of the Arts, and poetry finalist recognition from The Fourth River, The Pinch, and Soundings East. Sysko holds an MFA in poetry from New England College.
X: @lj_sysko
Instagram: @lesliesysko
Facebook: @lesliesysko
Author website: http://www.ljsysko.com
beach fall
for Holli and Terry
Mountain to stone, prairie to sand, redwood to ash,
from here I can see the heart of the sea, but not the beach
he fell on. I can see the picture
window you sit in—waiting, watching the shore, iPad in lap, short-haired
Flossy at your side, the one who dug your dad’s
water bottle from under him. I don’t know why
you brought his suitcase to his wake
empty—what it was between you. Only he knew the words
you could not say. The doctors’ words for you—non-verbal, spectral—sent him
back to rage. He said they weren’t worth the hair
on a dead chicken, that aut-ism was just too much self for them to take
from you. He knew what his raging
love could do: four hours a night on the couch, talking
through your iPad. He called himself Manitoban, the prairie farm-boy
who watched his dog run away for three days, the rain-man
to lead you out, teach you how to mouth the O, the awe
in Holli. Yes, from here I can see the redwoods
fall, the mountains decay, his sea-bed—
they say all the big hearts of the earth
love where they fall, that his heart stopped
before he hit the beach. But we both know
why his mouth was full of sand.
Christmas break
for Doug and Arlene
The earth heaves, the ice cleaves. Erosion
cuts the heart from every stone, while every night
I watch you drive your family past a starving glacier, turn
from a truck laden with salt. You head off
the head on, take the bumper to the heart, leave
your family straining your lungs’ last
words from the floor of the minivan.
I’m on the floor beneath my desk, straining
to plug in the phone that I will blame for years:
Sep 19, 2023
58 min
A wonderful sense of wordplay permeates the poems we were able to discuss from Barbara Diehl. Sadly, one of three poems we’d flagged for the podcast was snapped up before our discussion was recorded, and we talk a bit at the start of this episode about our process and timelines. Barbara’s work gave us space to consider how word choices, sequencing, and combining can lead to new experiences in a poem, as well as a debate over the roles of joy and darkness in poetry, including the balance we seek as readers in the world we find ourselves living in these days.
This episode is brought to you by our sponsor Wilbur Records, who kindly introduced us to the artist is A.M.Mills whose song “Spaghetti with Loretta” now opens our show.
At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller, Jason Schneiderman, Samantha Neugebauer and Dagne Forrest.
Barbara Westwood Diehl is senior editor of The Baltimore Review. Her fiction and poetry appear in a variety of journals, including Quiddity, Potomac Review (Best of the 50), SmokeLong Quarterly, Gargoyle, Superstition Review, Thrush Poetry Journal, Atticus Review, The MacGuffin, The Shore, The Journal of Compressed Creative Arts, Raleigh Review, Ponder, Fractured Lit, South Florida Poetry Journal, Five South, Allium, The Inflectionist Review, Switch, Split Rock Review, and Free State Review.
Socials: Twitter @BarbaraWestwood, Facebook @ barbara.w.diehl.3, Poets & Writers listing
December Goodnight
it’s sunfall, and the papersky is grayed
with erasures of bestlaid plans
all the daymistakes
forgiven
the brokenpencil points of planes
thumbsmudged away
their grumblechatter
hushed
the blackening windows
shuttered
*
so sleep in the nightsee
in the skylisten
so dream a planetdance
breathe a metronome
so keep time to a ticktock moon
to evening’s pocketwatch
its face a dozing chaperone
so humfade, so eyes closed
nothing to shudderfret
allsafe
Aug 23, 2023
30 min
In the midst of excitedly preparing for AWP 2017, we record this episode in which we discuss two poems by Rita Banerjee, “The Suicide Rag” and “Georgia Brown”
This week’s discussion both took us back and made sure that none of us would see the world the same way again. With images of breakdancing, gospel choir, and the not-so-innocent Georgia Brown, we were in it. Whether we’re distinguishing jazz from jazz or figuring out what a clapper is, this episode is filled with risky moves.
Join us in the campaign to have your local library carry lesser-known authors and small presses. Let us know what books you’ll be requesting with #getsomebooks! Let’s support libraries, small presses, and the authors who write for them.
Make sure you follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and let us know what you think of this episode with #longandskinny! Stay tuned to hear about our AWP 2017 experience–we hope to see you there!And of course, most importantly, read on!
At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller, Marion Wrenn, Jason Schneiderman, Tim Fitts, and Sara Aykit
Rita Banerjee is the author of Echo in Four Beats, CREDO: An Anthology of Manifestos and Sourcebook for Creative Writing, the novella “A Night with Kali” in Approaching Footsteps, and Cracklers at Night. She received her doctorate in Comparative Literature from Harvard and her MFA from the University of Washington, and her work appears in Hunger Mountain, PANK, Tupelo Quarterly, Isele Magazine, Nat. Brut., Poets & Writers, Academy of American Poets, Los Angeles Review of Books, Vermont Public Radio, and elsewhere. She is the co-writer of Burning Down the Louvre, a forthcoming documentary film about race, intimacy, and tribalism in the United States and in France, and serves as Senior Editor of the South Asian Avant-Garde and Creative Director of the Cambridge Writers’ Workshop. She received a 2021-2022 Creation Grant from the Vermont Arts Council for her new memoir and manifesto on female cool, and one of the opening chapters of this memoir, “Birth of Cool” was a Notable Essay in the 2020 Best American Essays. She is an Assistant Professor of Creative Writing and Director of the MFA Program for Writers at Warren Wilson College.
The Suicide Rag
Billy played ragtime
on the church
organ but we
lunch hour kids,
kept time by another
name. Behind St. Augustine’s
we learned to hit
the pavement, sound
like an anvil
crack
hammers hitting
steel, Billy playing
skeletons
on the fifth,
we arpeggioed
haloed, froze
on the black
top. Learning
to cakewalk
This was our
battle—
tar-mat babies
doing handsprung
suicides
for the girls
standing ’round
with knife-like eyes
That’s all
we needed—
a rolling
beat, a firing squad
and schoolyard
skirts
scouring the lot
as we fell
face forward
hands locked
& stiff, the only
thing
that could’ve
come between
us was a kiss.
Georgia Brown
Harlem had yet to be born,
the globe had not been spun,
but we knew how to whistle,
how to call clappers and skirts on cue:
That summer, we first met Georgia,
she was an echo in four beats,
we learned to hum her story.
Mike played her with a licked reed
but she was all brass, sharp
like an abandoned railroad cutting through
wild wood, and when she took stage,
she made those trombone boys whisper,
“Sweet Georgia, Sweet.”
Aug 9, 2023
41 min
July 2023 Update: Sarah is preparing to appear at the New York City Poetry Festival at the end of July. Sarah will read a poem and be interviewed as part of an appearance with the monthly poetry show "There's a Lot to Unpack Here". Sarah also has a new book of poetry, “The Familiar”, coming out from Texas Review Press in Spring 2024.
Welcome to Episode 19 of Slush Pile! For this episode, we have two “creepy” poems submitted for our Monsters Issue by Sarah Kain Gutowski.
While these poems, part of a suite, did not get unanimous votes, we all felt they enveloped us into a universe of magical realism. True to the tradition of scary stories, these poems demand to be read slowly, deliberately, and out loud. Additionally, Gutowski’s work is more than simply scary. Like Kathy says, “Sometimes freaky shit happens,” and these poems force our team to consider the ambiguities of life, or pre-death, as Tim puts it.
Listen to the outcome, but one thing is for sure: these poems are stronger together.
Comment on our Facebook event page or on Twitter with #frogtongue and sign for our email list if you’re in the area, and even if you’re not! Read on!
At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller, Lauren Patterson, Tim Fitts, Caitlin McLaughlin, Jason Schneiderman, and Marion Wrenn
Sarah Kain Gutowski is the author of two books, The Familiar (forthcoming) and Fabulous Beast: Poems, winner of the 14th annual National Indies Excellence Award for Poetry. With interdisciplinary artist Meredith Starr, she is co-creator of Every Second Feels Like Theft, a conversation in cyanotypes and poetry, and It's All Too Much, a limited edition audio project. Her poems have appeared in The Gettysburg Review, The Threepenny Review, Painted Bride Quarterly, and The Southern Review, and her criticism has been published by Colorado Review, Calyx: A Journal of Art and Literature by Women, and the New York Journal of Books.
Chapter VI: The Children Have a Request
The season stretched itself thin, weakened by storms and heat.
Inside the damp, shadowy space of the children’s fort,
the woman with the frog tongue wove baskets and bowls
with tight, interlocked laces, while her silk stitches
began to fray and lengthen. The gap between her lips
widened to where the children could see the white of her teeth.
They stared at her, sometimes; she saw them clench their jaws
and try to speak to each other without moving their mouths.
Before long they’d begin to laugh, and she’d shake with relief at the sound.
Then one day, when the trees broke into glittering shards
of gold and red and green, and light spun pinwheels above
their heads as they walked together between the falling leaves,
the girl looked at the woman and asked if she had a name.
At this, the woman jerked to a stop. The old surge,
the impulse to speak that rose within her belly and chest,
overwhelmed. She wanted the girl and boy to know her name.
Her tongue, rolled tightly and barred from moving inside its cage,
strained against her teeth and cheeks, contorting her face with its rage.
The boy stepped back when he saw the change on the woman’s face.
The girl moved closer, though, to pat the hand she held
like she might a frightened kitten or skittish, fallen bird.
Let’s guess your name, she said. The woman’s jaw fell slack,
as much as the stitches allowed. Her panic passed away.
The boy saw her relax and began to hop around.
A game, a game, he chanted. Across her eyes the sun
sliced its blade, and though her vision bled with its light,
she felt cheered by the girl’s hand and the boy’s excitement.
Aurora. Jezebel. Serafina, guessed the girl.
Her brother laughed and grabbed a fallen branch, whacking
the moss-covered roots of the trees surrounding them.
The woman laughed, too, short bursts of air through her nose.
Her happiness shocked them all. The boy laughed again,
a raucous sound, and she looked the little girl in the eye.
A curve tested her mouth’s seams, more grimace than grin,
but the girl smiled back and
Jul 24, 2023
52 min
In this short trailer, we tease the next three poets to be featured on the Slushpile: C. Fausto Cabrera, Barbara Westwood Diehl, and Jodi Balas. We are so excited to be featuring poetry from these three very diverse writers. Have a quick listen for a taste of each poetic voice! (And remember – we pull our featured poets and writers from our submissions slushpile – polish up your work and submit it to Painted Bride Quarterly, knowing we might choose to feature it here!)
This episode is brought to you by our sponsor Wilbur Records, who kindly introduced us to the artist is A.M.Mills whose song “Spaghetti with Loretta” now opens our show.
At the table: Kathleen Volk Miller and Dagne Forrest
Jul 19, 2023
5 min
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