
Alyssa Gilbert is Director of Undaunted which is a community of creative, proactive people exploring how innovation can help humans tackle climate change. She is also the Director of Innovation at the Grantham Institute which was established in 2007 to provide a vital global centre of excellence for research and education on climate change. Today, the Grantham Institute is established as a leading authority on climate and environmental science. She is an all round expert on environmental and climate change policy and science having worked in the field in numerous roles and several countries for over 20 years.
In this conversation we talked about:
Building open innovation Infrastructure for the climate ecosystem
Finding and scaling silver bullets and business models for climate innovation
Cities and places as serendipity engines
Where could and should climate leadership come from?
Highlights include:
Why she is not getting angry about the net zero backtracking where the object is to divide people and the solution is not to be divided.
The role of place in driving climate innovation as part of a global supercluster of talent and technology.
That it's great to care but you cannot take the world upon your shoulders - everyone has a role to play in addressing the climate emergency.
This podcast was produced by Liminal - a collective intelligence community. Thanks to all of our community members, clients, partners and patrons. Here are links to some of the things we discussed.
Undaunted https://undaunted-hq.org/
Grantham https://www.imperial.ac.uk/grantham/
Climate Tech Supercluster https://www.climatetechsupercluster.com/
Conception X https://www.conceptionx.org/
Liminal https://www.weareliminal.co/
RethinkX https://www.rethinkx.com/
Notpla https://www.notpla.com/
Ministry for the future https://store.orbit-books.co.uk/products/the-ministry-for-the-future
Thanks for listening. Check out and buy the On The Edge book here.
Sep 26, 2023
32 min

Welcome to On The Edge, a podcast and now also a book, about making unexpected connections everywhere and anywhere.
Why should you embrace uncertainty as an opportunity not a threat?
How can you connect people and ideas to engineer serendipity?
Where should you start when embarking on a transition to something new?
On The Edge will be your guide to navigating uncertainty based upon the experiences of a diverse group of creative and entrepreneurial people and organizations who have learned how to survive and thrive in our increasingly connected world, and is available to buy now as a book or ebook. What are you on the edge of right now?
In this episode I read Chapter 3 called Into the Unknown. Enjoy.
If you enjoy it then please consider buying a copy and giving both the book and the podcast a good review or rating, as that really helps get it out to new people. Others have described the book as:
“A beautiful little book.” Tessy Britton
“Succinct and insightful.” Dave Snowden
“Realistic and wise.” Margaret Heffernan
"A thoughtful meditation on how to navigate uncertain futures.” Anab Jain
“An inspiring and orienting tapestry.” Cassie Robinson
“Inspirational from the very first page.” Johnnie Moore
“This is a great little book.” Jon Alexander
“It’s wonderful! I have goosebumps." Noelle Dye
“Read this book and take its insights to heart.” Rob Poynton
"An inspiring and practical guide.” Ella Goldner
This podcast was brought to you by Liminal. To find out more please visit www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge.
Apr 5, 2023
7 min

Welcome to On The Edge, a podcast and now also a book, about making unexpected connections everywhere and anywhere.
Why should you embrace uncertainty as an opportunity not a threat?
How can you connect people and ideas to engineer serendipity?
Where should you start when embarking on a transition to something new?
On The Edge will be your guide to navigating uncertainty based upon the experiences of a diverse group of creative and entrepreneurial people and organizations who have learned how to survive and thrive in our increasingly connected world, and is available to buy now as a book or ebook. What are you on the edge of right now?
In this episode I read Chapter 2 called This is Happening. Enjoy.
If you enjoy it then please consider buying a copy and giving both the book and the podcast a good review or rating, as that really helps get it out to new people. Others have described the book as:
“A beautiful little book.” Tessy Britton
“Succinct and insightful.” Dave Snowden
“Realistic and wise.” Margaret Heffernan
"A thoughtful meditation on how to navigate uncertain futures.” Anab Jain
“An inspiring and orienting tapestry.” Cassie Robinson
“Inspirational from the very first page.” Johnnie Moore
“This is a great little book.” Jon Alexander
“It’s wonderful! I have goosebumps." Noelle Dye
“Read this book and take its insights to heart.” Rob Poynton
"An inspiring and practical guide.” Ella Goldner
This podcast was brought to you by Liminal. To find out more please visit www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge.
Mar 30, 2023
7 min

Welcome to On The Edge, a podcast and now also a book, about making unexpected connections everywhere and anywhere.
Why should you embrace uncertainty as an opportunity not a threat?
How can you connect people and ideas to engineer serendipity?
Where should you start when embarking on a transition to something new?
On The Edge will be your guide to navigating uncertainty based upon the experiences of a diverse group of creative and entrepreneurial people and organizations who have learned how to survive and thrive in our increasingly connected world, and is available to buy now as a book or ebook. What are you on the edge of right now?
In this episode I read Chapter 1 called Start at the End. Enjoy.
If you enjoy it then please consider buying a copy and giving both the book and the podcast a good review or rating, as that really helps get it out to new people. Others have described the book as:
“A beautiful little book.” Tessy Britton
“Succinct and insightful.” Dave Snowden
“Realistic and wise.” Margaret Heffernan
"A thoughtful meditation on how to navigate uncertain futures.” Anab Jain
“An inspiring and orienting tapestry.” Cassie Robinson
“Inspirational from the very first page.” Johnnie Moore
“This is a great little book.” Jon Alexander
“It’s wonderful! I have goosebumps." Noelle Dye
“Read this book and take its insights to heart.” Rob Poynton
"An inspiring and practical guide.” Ella Goldner
This podcast was brought to you by Liminal. To find out more please visit www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge.
Mar 22, 2023
6 min

Welcome to On The Edge, a podcast and now also a book, about making unexpected connections everywhere and anywhere.
Why should you embrace uncertainty as an opportunity not a threat?
How can you connect people and ideas to engineer serendipity?
Where should you start when embarking on a transition to something new?
On The Edge will be your guide to navigating uncertainty based upon the experiences of a diverse group of creative and entrepreneurial people and organizations who have learned how to survive and thrive in our increasingly connected world, and is available to buy now as a book or ebook. What are you on the edge of right now?
In this episode I read the Introduction called The Future is Fluid. Enjoy. If you enjoy it then please consider buying a copy and giving both the book and the podcast a good review or rating, as that really helps get it out to new people. Others have described the book as:
“A beautiful little book.” Tessy Britton
“Succinct and insightful.” Dave Snowden
“Realistic and wise.” Margaret Heffernan
"A thoughtful meditation on how to navigate uncertain futures.” Anab Jain
“An inspiring and orienting tapestry.” Cassie Robinson
“Inspirational from the very first page.” Johnnie Moore
“This is a great little book.” Jon Alexander
“It’s wonderful! I have goosebumps." Noelle Dye
“Read this book and take its insights to heart.” Rob Poynton
"An inspiring and practical guide.” Ella Goldner
This podcast was brought to you by Liminal. To find out more please visit www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge.
Mar 15, 2023
9 min

Welcome to On The Edge, a podcast and now also a book, about making unexpected connections everywhere and anywhere.
Why should you embrace uncertainty as an opportunity not a threat?
How can you connect people and ideas to engineer serendipity?
Where should you start when embarking on a transition to something new?
On The Edge will be your guide to navigating uncertainty based upon the experiences of a diverse group of creative and entrepreneurial people and organizations who have learned how to survive and thrive in our increasingly connected world, and is available to buy now as a book or ebook.
www.weareliminal.co/ontheedge
In this episode I read the Preface called Gradually, Then Suddenly. If you enjoy it then please consider buying a copy and giving both the book and the podcast a good review or rating, as that really helps get it out to new people. Others have described the book as:
“A beautiful little book.” Tessy Britton
“Succinct and insightful.” Dave Snowden
“Realistic and wise.” Margaret Heffernan
"A thoughtful meditation on how to navigate uncertain futures.” Anab Jain
“An inspiring and orienting tapestry.” Cassie Robinson
“Inspirational from the very first page.” Johnnie Moore
“This is a great little book.” Jon Alexander
“It’s wonderful! I have goosebumps." Noelle Dye
“Read this book and take its insights to heart.” Rob Poynton
"An inspiring and practical guide.” Ella Goldner
What are you on the edge of right now?
Mar 9, 2023
9 min

In this conversation I connected with Ella Goldner. Ella is a co-founder of Zinc - a fund that backs entrepreneurs, pre-team and pre-idea, to build new tech-enabled & mission-driven commercial ventures. She is also the co-founder of Alma Angels, a network that brings together new and existing angel investors who are committed to actively supporting female founders.
In this conversation we talked about:
The Zinc venture builder missions and how/why the best way to foster entrepreneurship in response to social challenges?
How to mitigate the challenges of co-founder relationships, especially given that some people say that too much or too little co-founder conflict is the #1 cause of start up failure.
A deep dive into the latest Zinc environment mission which just went live - to mobilise the climate innovation ecosystem through cross-sector collaboration and scale up capital, and shifting narrative from climate being (only) a big problem to (also) a huge opportunity.
OpenCo/newCo?
So I started out by asking her, What is a venture builder mission and who is it for? Enjoy!
"The core components (of Zinc) are; can we get the talent to do that if we give them the right missions, can we build an ecosystem around them, an army of people who care about what they do and help them, and can we make that really powerful by underpinning with good research."
"Every moment you hear the news (about climate) there is a reason to feel despair, so how do you turn that around and remind people of the opportunities and the covid an industry-led vaccine task force is a really good example of how to do that."
"We want (Zinc) to be the best place in the world for anybody who wants to experiment and have impact at scale... if you are really talented and ambitious."
https://www.zinc.vc/
https://apply.workable.com/zinc-ventures-limited/j/D79DBD1FC7/
https://www.zinc.vc/missions/environment/
https://gosupercritical.com/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1172206/
https://newco.co/
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/jabbed-inside-britains-vaccine-triumph
https://www.weareliminal.co/
Jul 8, 2022
35 min

“How do you change the system to take longer term decisions without forcing people and using a government to do that, and the answer is you set up cooperatives and mutuals.” Shiv Malik
In this conversation I connected with Shiv Malik who is a technologist, broadcaster, author, former Guardian investigative journalist and co-founder of the Intergenerational Foundation think tank. He is also author of several books - The Messenger and Jilted Generation. He joined the Web3 space in 2017 with Golem and then Streamr. In 2021 he co-founded Pool and currently leads the organization on its mission to bring Data Unions to the world and ensure people have control of their data and a genuine stake in the digital economy.
In this conversation we talked about web3 and data unions and why are they are important, building upon his background as an investigative journalist.
"We all need to have that stake in the future and be able to leverage that."
https://www.pooldata.io/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiv_Malik
https://www.faber.co.uk/author/shiv-malik/
https://www.theguardian.com/profile/shiv-malik
https://www.weareliminal.co/
Jun 24, 2022
42 min

In this conversation I connected with Sonja Blignaut.
Originally a meteorologist, Sonja now partners with people who need to navigate, make sense of, and lead in uncertainty. She spans the boundaries of leadership, organisational development & change, strategy, risk, innovation, and marketing. In short, she works wherever there is complexity, which nowadays is more or less everywhere.
Sonja is internationally recognised as an expert on Complexity, the Cynefin Framework, Waysfinding, and Complexity Fitness. She is certified in various individual and systemic coaching methods and a sought-after speaker, with experience at various conferences locally and internationally, including TedX.
In this conversation we talked about crossing thresholds and the skills, capabilities, rituals, and mindsets are required to navigate transitions well?- inspired by this blog post that she shared recently that I’ll link to in the show notes. That post starts with the following quote by John O’Donohue:
“At any time you can ask yourself: At which threshold am I now standing? At this time in my life, what am I leaving? Where am I about to enter? What is preventing me from crossing my next threshold? What gift would enable me to do it?”
So I started out by asking her, at what threshold she is now standing and how it makes her feel? Enjoy!
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- The space of not knowing is where the growth happens
- The hardest conversations we are avoiding the most are the ones with ourselves
- The value of rituals in transitions and the need for containment
- How much of my own life am I putting off until someday?
- The time has come to cross - don’t let your life flow by without noticing
https://complexityfit.com/sonja-blignaut/
https://sonjablignaut.medium.com/crossing-thresholds-a109d1b2d392
https://www.weareliminal.co
May 3, 2022
39 min

In this conversation I connected with Nick Hare, founder of Aleph Insights - an analytics consultancy that specialises in supporting strategic decision-making for both business and government in defence, security, intelligence and international affairs.
Prior to establishing Aleph Insights, he worked in various roles across the Ministry of Defence, the Cabinet Office and the intelligence community, most recently within Defence Intelligence, where he was responsible for professionalising intelligence analysis."
I first met Nick via an old school friend and have gone on to work with him a few times over the last decade.
In this conversation - recorded on 1st April 2022 - we talked about the current war in Ukraine. In particular we talked about: What can we learn about analysis and decision making from such turbulent times? And is there a new world order emerging, and if so are are some of the possible future scenarios?
So I started out by asking him, how has the war in Ukraine affected him personally, and also whether he agrees that we are past a point of no return? Enjoy!
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-hare-a7b12161/
https://alephinsights.com/
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/cognitive-engineering/id1142986387
https://twitter.com/AlephInsights
https://www.weareliminal.co/
Apr 2, 2022
40 min
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