Dr. Nathan Regier, your host, welcomes Cy Wakeman to this special 50th episode of The Compassionate Accountability Podcast. Cy is a drama researcher, international leadership speaker, and consultant. In 2001, she founded Reality-Based Leadership. Cy works with organizations globally to ditch the drama, hardwire accountability into their teams, and turn excuses into results.   Key Takeaways: [2:18] What did motivate Cy to research drama? [6:24] CY defines drama and how that relates to leadership training. [7:28] Cy advises to consider drama as waste (and organizations know what to do with waste in their processes) [8:22] What are the key sources of trauma? Ego and lack of accountability are the first two drama triggers. [11:03] Conflict is just energy! Either we waste it or take advantage of it. [13:05] Love up (compassion) and Call up (accountability). [19:30] Cy explains the notion of Reality-based Leadership, considering that multiple things are true simultaneously and expanding on the future of leadership. [22:21] We all want success and happiness. [27:15] Reality-based thinking: Given this reality, what are some ways we can be great? [30:56] You have drama in your organization because you hired it, you enabled it, or you are it. [34:39] Cy talks about how she helps organizations. [35:50] Cy shares what is on the horizon for her now: Transitioning her organization to her team.   Mentioned in this episode: The Compassion Mindset Compassionate Accountability: How Leaders Build Connection and Get Results, Nate Regier Visit Next-Element   Right Kind of Wrong: The Art of Failing Well, Amy Edmondson   Tweetables: “Drama is energy that goes away from results and well being” #oncompassion   “Drama is an emotional waste.”  #oncompassion   “Ego is the number one key source of trauma.” #oncompassion   “Modern leadership is managing the energy of people.” #oncompassion   “Rules without relationship equals rebellion.” #oncompassion   “A bad day for the ego is a great day for the leader.”  #oncompassion   “You have drama in your organization because you hired it, you enabled it, or you are it.” #oncompassion   “You are the source of all your problems.” #oncompassion

Dr. Nathan Regier, your host, welcomes  Caverly Morgan to today’s episode. Caverly is a spiritual teacher, author, speaker, and nonprofit founder. She is the founder and Lead Contemplative of Peace in Schools—a nonprofit that created the nation's first for-credit mindfulness class in public high schools. She is also the founder of Presence Collective, a community of cross-cultural contemplatives committed to personal and collective transformation, creating spaces for wisdom exchange and belonging. Caverly blends the original spirit of Zen with a modern, nondual approach. Her practice began in 1995 and has included eight years of training in a silent Zen monastery. She has been teaching contemplative practice since 2001. Caverly is passionate about creating opportunities to experience compassion and connection in the community.  Caverly shares today how she is manifesting compassion and accountability in the world.  Key Takeaways: [2:40] Caverly shares some highlights of her journey that brought her where she is today. [4:05] Caverly became attracted to the question: Is it possible to move through life either without suffering or less of it? [4:56] How does Caverly define compassion? [7:12] Caverly defines compassion as an experience. [8:52] Caverly talks about the link between her work and compassion as an innate ability. [10:54] How do we bring compassion into our workspaces? [11:29]  Are there common barriers that people face to practice compassion? [13:17] Always striving vs. Contentedness: If we are at peace, do we lose our motivation? [15:40] Caverly is not a fan of self-improvement and she explains why. [18:09] Caverly shares some valuable examples of the value of interconnection. [21:13] Ask yourself: What blocks in our environment prevent us from truly showing the heart of who we are? [24:32] What if we reinterpret the value of conflict in our relationships? Conflict is efficient in our shared purpose. [26:58] Caverly describes her work with high school students and educators [28:35] Caverly shares a particular story. [30:49] Where does Caverly currently find joy and fulfillment?   Mentioned in this episode: The Compassion Mindset Compassionate Accountability: How Leaders Build Connection and Get Results, Nate Regier Visit Next-Element   Learn more about Caverly Morgan Check out Caverly’s books: A Kid’s Book About Mindfulness and The Heart of Who We Are: Realizing Freedom Together.   Tweetables: “Transformation happens in the interaction.” #oncompassion   “Compassion is a byproduct of knowing that we are connected.” #oncompassion   “We often get confused about who we are since our identities can wrap around what we do or whether or not we are successful.” #oncompassion   “Freedom is contagious.” #oncompassion

Dr. Nathan Regier, your host, welcomes Jeff Jacobs to today’s episode. Jeff has a 30-plus year career in Human Resources spanning numerous Global Leadership roles. He is currently the Senior Director of Organizational Effectiveness at Adobe. In that capacity, he serves as an executive coach and internal consultant to senior leadership teams across the company. Dr. Nate and Jeff discuss the particularities of his position at Adobe; they explore the features of a healthy team and the challenges a team must confront to achieve its best performance. Jeff shares his vast knowledge of psychological safety, vulnerability, diversity, and inclusiveness based on his extensive experience in leading high-performing teams.   Key Takeaways: [3:40] Jeff talks about a conference both he and Dr. Nate recently participated in. [5:15] Jeff shares some of his background and journey that led him to his current position at Adobe. [6:57] What about Jeff’s Senior Director of Organizational Effectiveness position at Adobe is unique? [9:26] What makes a team healthy? [11:00] Jeff addresses compassion and inclusivity as crucial features of a healthy team. [12:40] Where does conflict come in for high-performing teams? [15:13] What is psychological safety? How does it contribute to high-performing teams? [18:50] What does “radical candor” really mean? [21:15] Jeff expands on the key to effective feedback. [22:20] How does vulnerability contribute to high-performing teams? [24:57] Why do so many leaders perceive vulnerability as a weakness? [27:27] What are some of the systems and processes that can support high-performing cultures? [31:32] How does Jeff measure the impact of what he does? [33:13] What is the difference between people liking you, and benefiting an organization? [35:44] Jeff talks about the book he is about to release. [39:13] Jeff shares how he keeps himself vulnerable and open. [42:35] Dr. Nate shares his top takeaways from a fantastic conversation with Jeff Jacobs.   Mentioned in this episode: The Compassion Mindset Compassionate Accountability: How Leaders Build Connection and Get Results, Nate Regier Visit Next-Element   The Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well, Amy Edmondson   Radical Candor: How to Get What You Want by Saying What You Mean, Tim Scott Learn more about Jeff Jacobs’ book Still Coming of Age.   Tweetables: “A healthy team starts with trust and psychological safety.” #oncompassion   “Leveraging diversity is not just about accepting and valuing differences; there is an inherent conflict in diversity and also an inherent opportunity.” #oncompassion   “Psychological safety is the foundation that enables someone to lean into the discomfort.” #oncompassion   “Culture is to build one relationship at a time.” #oncompassion “Vulnerability is one of the most profound leadership strengths that exists.” #oncompassion

Dr. Nathan Regier, your host, welcomes you to another episode of On Compassion — this time to discuss deep psychology, human behavior, and how to impact big-scale change. Dr. Nate is joined by Dov Baron, the founder and CEO of Dov Baron International. Dov is a preeminent expert in helping leaders create life and work meaning, his models and strategies of the emotional source code and the anatomy of meaning are used by leaders in business and government worldwide.   What's In This Episode What inspired Dov at age 14 to get out of the ghetto in the UK where he was born? What is the Anatomy of Meaning? What is the emotional Source Code? What are the five levels of Emotional Source Code that predict lasting behavior change? How do we explain the behavior of current political leaders, suicide bombers or Neo Nazis? Why are we so lonely? The power of belonging, and the impact on productivity. How do we create cultures of belonging? What is Dov’s religion? Why does it matter? What you can do to encourage belonging. Key Takeaways: [4:14] Dov shares some experiences from his past that formed who he is today. [8:55] What is the nature of Dov’s business? [12:07} What is the anatomy of meaning? [14:32] We have a responsibility at a personal level to know our anatomy of meaning (which doesn’t mean it is the truth, but it is still yours). [15:43] Dov explains what he calls algorithms of rage. [17:22] Dov defines the emotional source code. [24:03] How do we reconcile the human side of relationships with the increasing push toward productivity and results? [28:10] Dov gives a critical suggestion for those wanting to apply his concepts: Embrace curiosity. [34:10] Dr. Nate shares the top three takeaways from a fabulous conversation with Dov Baron.   Mentioned in this episode: The Compassion Mindset Compassionate Accountability: How Leaders Build Connection and Get Results, Nate Regier Visit Next-Element   Learn more about Dov Baron Listen to Leadership and Loyalty Podcast and Curiosity Bites Podcast. Tweetables: “Trauma can become a driving force for what is good and what is not so good, and without awareness, it won’t go well.” #oncompassion   “Purpose is not the way; it is the why of the why, which drives us unconsciously.” #oncompassion   “Now, more than ever, in this epidemic of loneliness, people want community.” #oncompassion   “Those who control the meaning of the tribe control the movement of the tribe.” #oncompassion  

Dr. Nathan, your host, welcomes Rex Miller to discuss how organizational cultures and communities are impacted and rebuilt after the trauma of rapid change we suffered due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Rex is a renowned expert in optimizing human and team performance, strategic foresight, and organizational transformation. With over 20 years as a consultant and coach, he has authored six Wiley books and received numerous accolades, including the CoreNet Global Innovator Award, the Industry Excellence Award, and IFMA's Distinguished Author Award. What's In This Episode What are the three kinds of trauma? How does trauma show up in our brains and bodies What has happened to empathy over the past 50 years How can storytelling help people heal from trauma? What did most companies miss in their response to Covid? Key Takeaways: [3:51] How did Rex get interested in workplace culture? [5:15] Rex shares his work dealing with trauma in communities and helping people recover from it. [11:02] Rex defines trauma. [14:00] Rex shares what he calls the “evolution of empathy.” [15:48] Dr. Nate discusses the difference between empathy and compassion fatigue. [16:47] Rex talks about his current work with organizational cultures. [20:29] Rex discusses the power of creating safe entry-level conversations. [22:14] Dr. Nate emphasized the importance of helping people reengage with the narrative to preserve their dignity and agency and help them take ownership of it, moving to a more empowered vision of themselves. [22:52] Rex explains why he believes we are in a collective vertigo. [25:51] Rex talks about his new passion: River Rose Ranch. [27:02] What is Rex excited about at the moment? [30:05] Dr. Nate shares his top three takeaways from an insightful conversation with Rex Miller.   Mentioned in this episode: The Compassion Mindset Compassionate Accountability: How Leaders Build Connection and Get Results, Nate Regier Visit Next-Element   Learn more about Rex Miller  Follow Rex Miller on Linkedin   Tweetables: “Compassion is the entryway to help people heal.” #oncompassion   “People are craving safety and connection at work.” #oncompassion   “We heal in the community; we need to rehumanize one another.” #oncompassion  

Dr. Nathan Regier, your host, welcomes Ed O’Malley, the founding president and CEO of the illustrious Kansas Leadership Center, an organization committed to fostering leadership for stronger, healthier, and more prosperous communities, and Julia Fabris McBride, Chief Civic Leadership Development Officer of the KLC. Ed and Julia embody a Compassion Mindset with their deep caring for people, curiosity, and commitment to excellence. In this episode, they join Dr. Nate to discuss their newest book,  When Everyone Leads: How the Toughest Challenges Get Seen and Solved, and the principles of this groundbreaking work. Key Takeaways: [5:52] Julia and Ed share how they built KLC. [7:37] How does When Everyone Leads fit into Ed and Julia’s careers? [10:35] Ed explains how they structured this book. [13:07] Julia discusses the journey and experiences that led them to write When Everyone Leads. [15:57] What are the two biggest problems that leaders should and can be ready to solve with this book? [17:50] Ed and Julia describe the difference between adaptive and technical challenges. [21:20] Julia highlights the importance of partnering with Dr. Nate since a compassionate mindset is needed in every leadership role to tackle adaptive challenges. [23:04] Julia and Ed discuss their view on conflict and how we should use it. [25:50] What is their favorite chapter of When Everyone Leads? [29:22] Leaders should get vulnerable, ask for help, and be clear about what matters most to their people. [29:54] What gives Ed and Julia the most hope? [34:01] What has given Julia and Ed joy and enthusiasm lately? [36:53] Dr. Nate shares his top three takeaways from a lively conversation with Ed and Julia.   Mentioned in this episode: The Compassion Mindset Next-Element.com   Learn more about Ed O’Malley and Julia Fabris McBride. KansasHealth.org   Tweetables: “Leadership is an activity.” #oncompassion   “One of the biggest challenges in leadership is not to treat adaptive challenges as if they are technical.” #oncompassion   “Conflict is an opportunity, and it is energy.” #oncompassion   “Conflict is inherent in progress, which is beautiful!.” #oncompassion “Part of exercising leadership is letting go and how to take care of yourself to be able to care for the ones you care most about.” #oncompassion

Dr. Nathan Regier, your host, welcomes Kay Sargent to today’s episode. Kay is the senior principal and director of the Workplace Team and is on the board of directors of HOK, a global design architecture engineering and planning firm employing 16,000 people.   Kay is making an impact for neuro-diverse individuals in the workplace; she has nearly 40 years of experience and is an award-winning, recognized expert on workplace design and strategy issues. She believes we have a moral and ethical obligation to use our skills for a meaningful and positive impact.   Key Takeaways: [3:35] Kay shares her professional interest in neurodiverse-friendly design. [5:03] Kay defines neurodiversity. [6:49] What are some of the challenges that neurodivergent people face in the workplace? [8:42] What is Kay currently doing with her clients? Kay is giving them options, choices, and control. [12:09] Is there a business benefit from this type of inclusive design? [18:09] Kay describes the built environment's impact on people by listing three naib aspects. [20:07] What is the flaw in only considering location and flexibility as the main workplace factors? [22:14] Kay shares some of her current projects. [26:18] What would Kay advise an influential leader? Give people options! [32:03] Dr. Nate shares his top three takeaways from an empowering conversation with Kay Sargent.   Mentioned in this episode: The Compassion Mindset   Compassionate Accountability, How Leaders Build Connections and Get Results, Nate Regier   Next Element Consulting    Visit HOK.com    Tweetables: “Building and designing environments at the service of people with different sensory profiles” #oncompassion   “Every decision that a designer makes about color and textures impacts individuals with different sensory profiles.”   “Since COVID, everyone has a higher sensitivity to their surroundings.”   “When you design for the extremes, you benefit the mean; when you design for the average, you benefit no one.”   “No single business won't benefit from people being happier, healthier, more engaged, more empowered and productive.”   “We have the moral and ethical obligation to really create spaces that are empowering for individuals and inclusive for all.”  

Dr. Nathan Regier, your host, welcomes Elizabeth ‘Liz’ Bruno to today’s episode. Liz, Vice President and Chief Learning Officer at Baptist Health in Jacksonville, Florida, oversees an impressive six-hospital system with a staggering 14,000 employees.  She's a force to be reckoned with—a true rebel at heart and a shining example of compassion in the healthcare field. When it comes to understanding the profound meaning of real compassion in the world of healthcare, Liz gets it.   Key Takeaways: [3:27] Liz shares how she became a nurse. [4:40] Liz explains why she likes to be called a ‘Learning and Developing Goddess’. [5:14] Liz talks about her role at Baptist Health. [7:20] Liz defines compassion as a competency. [8:35] There can be compassion without empathy. [11:50] Compassion helps everyone involved feel better. [12:50] Dr. Nate shares one of the greatest barriers to practicing compassion. [13:29] How does Liz teach people to behave compassionately in the business of healing? [16:24] How do we deal with burnout and honor our identities in the process? [20:02] It’s ok to be vulnerable. [21:00] How does Liz convince people that being vulnerable is the key to more energy and better care? [23:18] Remembering the times when someone took care of you is a great tool to deal with burnout. [26:10] Liz discusses the issue of shortages in healthcare. [29:04] Liz talks about the training she is giving on how to be compassionate virtually. [31:55] What is Liz looking forward to in the next few years? [35:26] Dr. Nate shares the highlights of an amazing conversation with Elizabeth Bruno.   Mentioned in this episode: The Compassion Mindset Follow Elizabeth ‘Liz’ Bruno on Linkedin Baptist Health in Jacksonville, Florida   Tweetables: “Compassion makes everything better” #oncompassion   “Compassion improves outcomes and satisfaction.” #oncompassion   “Compassion is a learnable and a teachable skill.” #oncompassion  

Dr. Nathan Regier, your host, welcomes Doug Shapiro, who is the vice president for research and insights at OFS, a family-owned contract furniture manufacturer with a unique mission to bring people together. Doug specializes in imagining physical spaces that promote connection and wellness. He believes that design is compassion manifested in the physical space. Doug is from an industry people won’t naturally associate with compassion, accountability, and Leadership: The commercial Furniture industry, but we all know that thriving cultures are about their people, and those people live, work, and interact within a physical space that has a massive influence on them. Listen to this episode to learn how space and place affect can be an instrument of compassionate accountability.   Key Takeaways: [2:28] What is the connection between furniture manufacturing and compassion? [3:15] Doug talks about his work and mission. [5:25] What makes OFS so unique? [7:10] What kind of problems does Doug solve? Who does he work with? [9:39] Doug shares an example of his work. [11:25] Doug talks about his experience with specific clients. [12:37]  What does not work? What goes against the notion of including people, working together, and helping them to be productive? [17:16] Doug explains why some spaces work better than others to foster belonging and inclusion. [18:39] Are there any fundamental principles of design that inspired the work that Doug does? [20:16] Dr. Nate shares the definition of compassion. [21:19] How can our physical space support the fact that we are valuable, capable, and responsible? [24:10] A space can send messages about what is essential and what is not. [24:24} Doug has published a children’s book and is about to launch another. [26:48] Doug talks about Imagine a Place, his Podcast. [27:48] Doug shares resources with the audience [29:33] Doug shares a fun conclusion he found recently. [31:52] Dr. Nate shares his top three takeaways from a fun conversation with Dough Shapiro.   Mentioned in this episode: The Compassion Mindset   Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us, Daniel Pink   Imagine a place Podcast.   Design Your World, Doug Shapiro   Tweetables: “Show people how much you care about them.” #oncompassion   “Design and compassion are very closely connected. Compassion is taking action on empathy, and design is compassion that has been manifested after listening and understanding who will inhabit a particular space.“ #oncompassion   “Compassion has to be demonstrated, we can’t just talk about it.” #oncompassion  

Dr. Nathan Regier, your host, welcomes Dr. Kristin Neff to today’s episode. Dr. Neff is a researcher, an author, and a business owner she's been recognized as one of the world's most influential research psychologists. Dr. Neff is a pioneer in the study of self-compassion, she was the first one to define and measure the construct almost twenty years ago operationally. Dr. Neff received her doctorate from the University of California at Berkley and is currently an associate professor of Educational Psychology at UT Austin. In addition to writing numerous academic articles and chapters on the topic, she is the author of the book Self-compassion: The Proven Power to Being Kind to Yourself and Fierce Self-Compassion: How Women Can Harness Kindness to Speak Up, Claim Their Power and Thrive. In conjunction with her colleague Dr. Chris Germer, she has developed an empirically supported training program called Mindful Self-Compassion which is taught by thousands of teachers worldwide. She's also co-founder of the non-profit Center for Mindful Self-Compassion. Dr. Neff is bringing compassion to the workplace in so many different ways! In this Episode: How Kristin got interested in studying self-compassion. How is self-compassion different from other kinds of compassion? What are the three components of self-compassion? How self-compassion increases responsibility, agency and resilience. What’s the difference between fierce and tender self-compassion? Why is self-compassion more stable than self-efficacy or self-esteem? What are the workplace benefits of self-compassion? Key Takeaways: [2:18] How did Dr. Neff get interested in the field of self-compassion? [3:46] Dr. Neff distinguishes self-compassion from other forms of compassion. [4:11] Dr. Neff shares her three-component model for compassion. [5:44] Dr. Nate and Dr. Neff talk about the origins of the word compassion: Suffering with others. [8:50] Do we suffer alone? That thought is scary and isolating. [9:36] Dr. Neff discusses the number one blockage for self-compassion. [10:21] Self-compassion is a more effective motivator than self-criticism. [12:44] Compassion and accountability cannot live without each other. [13:04] Tender vs. fierce self-compassion. [15:00] Dr. Neff uses the analogy of being a good and compassionate parent. [16:17] Dr. Neff addresses the fact that some help is well-intended but ineffective (not alleviating suffering).  [18:03] Self-efficacy, self-esteem, and self-compassion provide a sense of value and worth. [21:43]. Dr. Neff talks about her new book Fierce Self Compassion. [24:55] What role does self-compassion play in business? [27:07] How does conflict fit in the practice of self-compassion? [29:20] There is a lot of energy in conflict that we are misusing. [31:55] Dr. Neff advises people on how to start addressing self-compassion. [34:25] Self-compassion is also a spiritual practice. [35:40] Dr. Nate shares the top three takeaways from an insightful conversation with Dr. Neff.   Mentioned in this episode: The Compassion Mindset Check Dr. Neff’s website   Tweetables: “You can be intentionally kind and supportive to yourself.” #oncompassion   “The number one block for self-compassion is people thinking that they have to be tougher and harder with themselves, and giving themselves a break seems like lowering their standards .” #oncompassion   “Self-compassion is a more effective motivator than self-criticism.” #oncompassion   “It is not compassionate to let people off the hook.” #oncompassion   “Self-compassion reduces burnout and increases work-life balance.” #oncompassion