Nobody likes a sore loser. But the Saints are 9th on the ladder, and the good ship Saintscast is going down too. Fingers are pointed at everybody but ourselves in this blame ridden, buck passing inquest.

Dan Biggar exclusively available for Wales this week leaving a big hole at Fly Half for our beloved Saints. Who will step into the void? This and our thoughts on the Courtney Lawe's red card worthy offside for the three Lions.

The boys talk Saints news, EA sports Rugby08 and hot gossip from the world of rugby.

It's the blind leading the blind as we piece together BBC updates and radio commentary to try to follow the game in Clermont.

This week we receive a surprise call from former England International Andy Goode, and discuss our uniquely misinformed perspective of the derby at Twickenham.

The fresh eyed bandwagoners break down the try fest at Bristol and preview a not-so-luxury outing to their first live match, the derby at Twickenham!