Never Contemplated
Never Contemplated
The Florida Bar
The Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai.Disclaimer: The views expressed by the participants of this program are their own and do not represent the views of, nor are they endorsed by The Florida Bar, their respective officers, directors, employees, agents, or representatives. None of the content should be considered legal advice. As always, consult a lawyer.
Be Curious, Be Bold, and Take the Leap - Dean Laura A. Rosenbury
In the second installment of this season’s “Never Contemplated - The Making of a Good Lawyer,” Judge Hetal Desai interviews Dean Laura A. Rosenbury of the University of Florida, Levin College of Law. Dean Rosenbury talks about her journey from rural America to Harvard to the flagship law school in Florida. Learn about how UF Law has climbed to and remained in the top 25 law schools in the nation (and # 1 in Florida) by not only upping its game academically, but also by increasing the diversity of its faculty and student body. Listen to all the ways the GatorLaw Nation is helping UF Law students get practical experience and learn about professionalism.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of General CLE credit, and 1 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #7219.
Mar 9, 2023
51 min
The Making of a Good Lawyer- Dean Erin O'Hara O'Connor
In the first installment of this season’s “Never Contemplated - The Making of a Good Lawyer,” Judge Hetal Desai interviews Dean Erin O’Hara O’Conner, who discusses her role as the Dean of FSU College of Law and how she got there. This episode explores the changes in law students and teaching methods over the years, and how to prevent burnout in the legal profession.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #7182.
Mar 1, 2023
47 min
Be Authentic to Who You Are and Let Service Guide You - Judge Navarro
In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Judge Navarro, who discusses her unique background, learning about drug court and the ways to mentor others about wellness.REFERENCED RESOURCES:https://www.floridabar.org/member/healthandwellnesscenter/https://www.fla-lap.org/Judge Navarro on social media:FacebookInstagramThis podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #6822.
Nov 28, 2022
47 min
Special Release - Part 1: Administrative Law Judges Cathy Sellers and Francine Ffolkes
The Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai. In this special episode, Judge Desai welcomes Administrative Law Judges Cathy Sellers and Francine Ffolkes.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #6546.
Sep 21, 2022
56 min
Special Release - Part 2: Administrative Law Judges Lisa Nelson, Suzanne Van Wyk, and Lynne Quimby-Pennock
The Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, professionalism, and civility in the judicial system, hosted by Judge Hetal Desai. In this special episode, Judge Desai welcomes Administrative Law Judges Lisa Nelson, Suzanne Van Wyk, and Lynne Quimby-Pennock.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 1 hour of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #6547.
Sep 21, 2022
1 hr 17 min
Be in Court, Prepared and On Time; Be Civil; and Be Straightforward - Chief Judge Munyon
 In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes the 9th Circuit Chief Judge Lisa Munyon who discusses her background and path to the bench. REFERENCED RESOURCES:https://www.law360.com/appellate/articles/1462291/fla-justices-mull-making-zoom-hearings-permanenthttps://issuu.com/orangecobarassociationorlando/docs/the_briefs_february_2022/14https://www.floridabar.org/the-florida-bar-news/rules-package-to-codify-remote-proceedings-argued/This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5853.
Mar 11, 2022
33 min
Public Service is Always Challenging, Never Boring - Secretary Simone Marstiller
In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes former judge and current Secretary of the Agency for Healthcare Administration, Simone Marstiller who discusses her diverse background and strong roots in public service.If you’d like to follow Secretary Marstiller on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SMarstillerThis podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5783. 
Feb 7, 2022
42 min
You're Not an Island - Judge Meg Kerr
In this episode, Judge Meg Kerr discusses her unique background and path to the Office of Judges of Compensation Claims, where she is assigned to Worker's Compensation cases. She emphasizes the importance of building relationships and making connections with colleagues and staff in order to be stronger professionally and to balance mental and emotional health and combat stress.References:The Florida Bar Mental Health and Wellness Center: https://www.floridabar.org/member/healthandwellnesscenter/The Worker's Compensation Section of The Florida Bar: https://www.flabarwcs.org/This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5742. 
Jan 7, 2022
34 min
Reputation is Everything - Judge Sheri Chappell
In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Judge Sheri Chappell who discusses the importance of mentoring and always striving to be above the adversarial process.https://www.floridabar.org/prof/pmentor/https://home.innsofcourt.org/mentoringhttps://home.innsofcourt.org/AIC_PDFs/Mentoring/30245_Activity_Model_Mentoring_Program.pdfThis podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5693. 
Dec 3, 2021
33 min
Always Be Willing to Serve - Justice Jamie Grosshans
In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Justice Jamie Grosshans who is currently Florida's only sitting female Supreme Court Justice to discuss her path to the bench.This podcast has been approved by The Florida Bar Continuing Legal Education Department for 0.5 hours of Professionalism CLE credit. Course #5632. 
Nov 1, 2021
37 min
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