In this episode, we discuss:

• Growing up in Minnesota and being introduced to the outdoors at a young age
  
• How Jay struggled with anxiety and feeling out of place from an early age
  
• How he’s harnessed his introversion as a superpower
  
• His work at the Phoenix (a sober active community non-profit)
  
• What active recovery means for him
  
• His experience with going to treatment centers
  
• What triggered his relapses and the rationalizations that often happen with relapses
  
• His experience with sober living houses
  
• The difference between sober living and halfway houses
  
• The cyclical nature of his particular journey
  
• What Suboxone and Methadone can do and how they’re used
  
• His brush with actual death
  
• Creating a life around the outdoors while going through addictive episodes
  
• Why finding his community of supportive outdoorsy people was a turning point
  
• His intentional reasoning for not having any social media accounts
  

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• The Phoenix
  

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