In this episode, I am joined by Zi Bull and their Mom Abby. We have a conversation about Zi coming out to Abby and sharing that they are Transgender. We also get into a conversation about gender roles and what makes a gender a gender.

If you are a parent and have a transgender child or suspect that your child might be trans then you do not want to miss this conversation. If you are curious and what to learn more about how to create safe spaces for people that are trans or non-binary then you will enjoy this conversation. It is heartfelt, touching, and really opened up my eyes. Both Zi and Abby are vulnerable and share their struggles and the love they have for one another. I learned so much from them both, and I know that you will too.