A quick note: This episode was recorded before the murder of George Floyd and the movement following had swept the country. We don't mention or address it in the episode, but we will going forward. Black Lives Matter. Raj and Todd talk about Space, vacuum cleaners, and dive into the messy world of Specs. Along the way they discuss how PMs use and mis-use specs when communicating up, out, and around. Todd makes an impassioned plea to keep "Product" thinking in your Product Management -- and implores you to remember that "Tech" expertise is part of the bargin. Raj, as usual, keeps Todd on track, and reminds us that not everything is always rosy. Product Managers have to navigate complex stakeholder labyrinths, and even the occasional Engineering Manager hiding up in an ivory tower. Links: https://medium.com/@geoffcharles/demystifying-the-agile-product-spec-b05d7c9c14e7

Synopsis Two dudes who use things start a podcast about the things they like (and don’t like) using. Raj and Todd talk about the good, the bad, and the eyeroll of using “personas”, what products this week did well, and even some sourdough talk. Show Notes Github Codespaces: https://github.com/features/codespaces Personas: https://hackernoon.com/user-personas-in-product-management-why-is-it-necessary-3f3732h5 https://medium.com/console-log-yo/data-demographics-and-user-personas-ed560a5ac9e8#.ta1r04ty6 https://elezea.com/2013/12/job-stories-and-personas-sitting-in-a-tree/ Tops: https://www.eufylife.com/products/variant/video-doorbell/T82001J1 https://podcasts.google.com/