
DoubleZero Edge is partnering with Kalshi to deliver Wall Street-grade market data to the world's largest CFTC-regulated prediction market. Co-Founder Austin Federa joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to unpack why professional infrastructure took so long to reach crypto, what the 10/10 flash crash revealed about new finance's weaknesses, and why faster data could level the playing field for every trader, not just the big firms. Plus, in today's Brand New Rails, we meet the ship captain working to bring the $2 trillion commercial shipping industry on-chain.
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Austin Federa Joins Markets Outlook
00:43 - DoubleZero x Kalshi: Inside the Announcement
02:30 - Why Wall Street Infrastructure Took So Long to Reach Crypto
04:36 - Brand New Rails: Tokenizing the $2 Trillion Shipping Industry
07:13 - Does Faster Data Hurt Retail Traders?
08:16 - Prediction Markets: More Than a Narrative
10:31 - Access, Disruption, and Federa's 2017 Thesis
12:13 - The Catalyst to Watch
13:11 - New Finance's Biggest Challenge
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Aug 13
14 min

In his first interview since declaring the ElizaOS token dead, Eliza Labs Founder Shaw Walters sits down with CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie to lay out what he says actually happened. He also makes a broader case for why crypto's casino culture is actively driving out the builders who could make the space matter and why he's still coding Eliza every day regardless.
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Shaw Walters Joins CoinDesk
02:23 - “Why Do People Think I Owe Them Anything?"
06:35 - How AI16Z Started: A $75K Joke That Hit $2.6 Billion
10:49 - Does He Regret Launching the Token?
11:43 - Crypto “Needs to Die And…Be Restarted"
15:34 - On the Burwick Lawsuit: "It Was a Total Scam"18:36 - "The Casino Is Not the Industry"
20:40 - Why He’s Still Building Eliza 24:00 - "Stay Away From All of This and Invest In Yourself"
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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. This interview has been edited for clarity and focus.
Aug 8
24 min

With the CLARITY Act pushed to September and $130 million drained in the Coldcard exploit, Crypto Market Analyst Ray Salmond joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to unpack Fed rate odds, Bitcoin’s four-year cycle, and the key metrics to watch ahead of a potential CLARITY Act vote. Plus, in today’s Brand New Rails, we explore how Dinari is bringing U.S. stocks on-chain.
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Ray Salmond Joins Markets Outlook
00:55 - Jobs Report and the Fed
01:58 - Bitcoin's Ceiling and the CLARITY Act Delay
02:26 - Why CLARITY Stalled: Banks, Stablecoins, and the Trump Cloud
04:32 - How Crypto Markets Will Front-Run the CLARITY Vote
06:39 - Brand New Rails: Dinari Brings US Stocks On-Chain
09:26 - Bitcoin's Four-Year Cycle: Still Intact?
12:26 - The Coldcard Hack: An Ideological Blow to Self-Custody
15:06 - Beyond Bitcoin: RWA, Prediction Markets, and the Altcoin Reality
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This episode is hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.
Aug 7
17 min

Zcash activated its Ironwood upgrade, sealing roughly $1.7 billion in ZEC behind a one-way turnstile after a researcher found a flaw that could have minted counterfeit coins. Here’s everything you need to know. Plus, on Brand New Rails: POSCO International puts its trade receivables on-chain with LG CNS on Injective. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts Markets Outlook.
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00:00 Welcome to Markets Outlook
00:55 Zcash Activates Ironwood, Seals $1.7B Orchard Pool
01:18 The Four-Year Orchard Counterfeit Bug
02:15 How the Turnstile Locks Out Counterfeit Coins
02:32 Quantum Recovery and Verification
03:05 The Voluntary Migration to Ironwood
03:53 Who Is Zcash For? Tushar Jain Weighs In on The Rollup
04:32 Why Ironwood Matters Beyond Zcash
06:19 Brand New Rails: Tokenizing Global Trade
06:38 POSCO Puts Trade Receivables On-Chain with Injective
07:03 What is a Trade Receivable?
07:24 Injective CEO Eric Chen on Faster Settlement
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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.
Jul 30
8 min

Wanchain bridge hack, why Ethereum keeps getting it wrong, and Cardano's outlook with Charles Hoskinson.
After a bridge hack rattled the Cardano ecosystem, Charles Hoskinson, CEO and Founder of Input Output, joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to lay out why crypto desperately needs wallet insurance, ZK-powered identity, and white hat rescue frameworks. Plus, what Cardano's latest hard fork really means for decentralized governance, why he thinks Ethereum keeps getting it wrong, and what it will actually take for prices to recover. Plus, we look at the DTCC taking tokenized securities live in today’s Brand New Rails segment.
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Charles Hoskinson Joins Markets Outlook
01:25 - Wanchain Bridge Hack and What It Revealed
02:21 - Why Midnight Was Built for This Moment
03:44 - Why Crypto Needs Wallet and Bridge Insurance
05:28 - How ZK Identity Unlocks Recovery and White Hat Rescues
09:46 - The "Unsexy" Unlock: Why Insurance Could Onboard the Masses
13:17 - Cardano's Hard Fork to v11 and What It Means
14:42 - Cardano's Decentralized Governance in Action
17:35 - Executive Function: The Last Governance Milestone
20:08 - Brand New Rails: What’s Next After the DTCC Moved Tokenized Securities Into Live Production
22:07 - Cardano's Outlook: Narrative Reset, Bitcoin DeFi, and the Partner Chain Model
26:05 - The Anthropic Analogy: Why Doing It Right Beats Doing It Fast
29:12 - Why Ethereum Keeps Getting It Wrong
36:22 - When Will Prices Catch Up? Charles' Market Framework
42:28 - The AI Wildcard and What It Means for Crypto
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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.
Jul 23
45 min

He turned $80,000 into $1.2 Million on one trade.
CEO and Founder of Kaizen, Brian Jung joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook. Discover how Jung turned an $80,000 bet on CASHCAT into a million-dollar trade by spotting the Robinhood Chain opportunity before the rest of the market. Plus, why he believes crypto is still in a bear market and what he's watching for the next bull cycle.
And in this week's Brand New Rails, Franklin Crypto CIO Seth Ginns explains why tokenized money market funds are becoming one of the fastest-growing areas of digital assets.
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Brian Jung Joins Markets Outlook
01:24 - The $80K Trade That Turned Into $1.25 Million
02:13 - How Mistakes Made Brian a Disciplined Trader
03:37 - Why Brian Was Watching Robinhood While Everyone Chased $Ansem
07:34 - How Brian's Research Team Found CASHCAT on Robinhood Chain
10:49 - Why CASHCAT Checked Every Box: The Memecoin Criteria
13:00 - The Exit Strategy: Why Brian Walked Away From a Multi-Seven-Figure Trade
16:13 - Brand New Rails: Tokenized Money Market Funds Hit $15 Billion+
18:34 - Why Brian Sat Out Most of 2026
20:31 - Is the Bitcoin Bottom In? Brian's Framework for Calling It
23:44 - How Brian Jung Got Into Crypto
25:48 - Brian's Long-Term Outlook
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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.
Jul 16
28 min

Is Ethereum moving too slow?
On today's Markets Outlook, StarkWare CEO Eli Ben-Sasson tells CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie why he believes Ethereum's ambitious roadmap must move faster—or risk losing its first-mover advantage to newer, more modern blockchains. He also explains why quantum readiness has become an urgent priority and shares his vision for a durable, peer-to-peer financial system built on true economic freedom.
Plus, in this week's Brand New Rails, we speak with Backpack CEO Armani Ferrante after Backpack Securities' tokenized SpaceX stock (SPCX) surpassed $1 billion in trading volume.
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Eli Ben-Sasson Joins Markets Outlook
01:07 - Eli’s Take on Vitalik's Ethereum Roadmap
03:23 - What Eli Would Do Differently: Speed and StarkNet Lessons
04:34 - What's at Stake if Ethereum Falls Behind
06:04 - What Ethereum Needs Now: Speed and Governance Transparency
09:25 - Brand New Rails: SpaceX IPO Drives Record Tokenized Equity Trading
11:16 - Recursive STARKs and Ethereum's Upgrade Path
13:01 - Quantum Computing: Can Ethereum Move Fast Enough?
16:58 - Privacy Wars: Zcash, Ethereum, and the Race for a Standard
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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.
Jul 10
22 min

Will Bitcoin dip below $50K?
On today's Markets Outlook, 10x Research Founder and CEO Markus Thielen tells CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie why he sees Bitcoin dropping even more before recovery, with $7B in ETF outflows since mid-May and MicroStrategy stepping back as the last real buyer. Plus, why he stays bearish on Ethereum, why he's calling Hyperliquid overvalued, and why nothing turns around until the Fed goes dovish.
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Timecodes:
00:00 Bitcoin Could Dip to $46K Before Year-End Rally
01:20 Bitcoin Falls Below $60K: What's Driving the Selloff?
02:37 $4.5B in ETF Outflows, Saylor's Bitcoin Sale, and Missing Catalysts
03:14 Why the Genius Act and CLARITY Weren't Real Catalysts
05:00 When Does the Fed Turn Dovish? The Macro Case for a Rally
05:19 Kevin Warsh Nomination Was the Turning Point for Bitcoin
07:27 Why Bitcoin Could Break Below $50K to $46–47K
09:41 The 2022 Parallel: Grayscale's SEC Win as the Sentiment Shift
11:06 Brand New Rails: Securitize Lists on NYSE
12:40 Where Does Bitcoin End the Year?
13:51 Why Markus Is Still Bearish on Ethereum
15:20 Stablecoin Activity Isn't Accruing to ETH Holders
16:40 The Bull Case for ETH Has Broken Down
17:28 Hyperliquid Overvalued at $72?
18:33 Why HYPE Is Unlikely to Reach $100
19:46 What to Do Now: Covered Calls, Shorts, and Watching for the Low
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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.
Jul 2
20 min

Does Ethereum have a funding crisis?
On today's Markets Outlook, Protocol Guild Organizer Trent Van Epps tells CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie why the Ethereum Foundation's subtraction philosophy is creating a critical funding gap for core developers, what it will take to fill it, and why he's still optimistic about ETH's future.
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Trent Van Epps Joins Markets Outlook
00:57 - Why Trent Left the Ethereum Foundation
01:55 - What Is Subtraction and Why It Matters
02:31 - 20% Workforce Cuts and the Funding Gap Explained
05:09 - Options for Solving the Funding Crisis
07:06 - Will Ethereum Lose Its First Mover Advantage?
08:40 - What Happens If the Funding Doesn't Come?
10:47 - What Institutions Should Replace the EF?
12:24 - Ethereum’s Future
14:37 - ETH the Asset: The Misconceptions and the Opportunity
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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.
Jun 25
18 min

Arthur Hayes on his HYPE position, AI bubble, and the new Fed Chair.
On today's Markets Outlook, BitMEX Co-Founder and Maelstrom CIO Arthur Hayes tells CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie why all roads still lead to money printing, how long the AI bubble has left, and why he has zero regrets about publicly selling his HYPE position. Plus, his reaction to Michael Saylor's Bitcoin stress test.
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Timecodes:
00:00 - Arthur Hayes Joins Markets Outlook
01:30 - Arthur’s Reaction to Michael Saylor News and Strategy Business Model
02:59 - When Does the AI Bubble Burst?
03:56 - New Fed Chair Warsh's Task Forces & What It Really Means
06:58 - Uniswap & Standard Chartered's $100 Price Target
08:06 - Responding to the HYPE Selloff Drama
09:24 - HYPE vs. SOL: Which Wins?
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For more commentary from Arthur Hayes:
IG - https://www.instagram.com/cryptohayes/
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/arthur-hayes-b493b42/
Substack - https://cryptohayes.substack.com/
Web: https://www.cryptohayes.com
X - https://x.com/cryptohayes
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Maelstrom Fund:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/maelstromfund
Web - https://www.maelstrom.fund
X - https://x.com/maelstromfund
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Check out CoinDesk's latest episode of Public Keys from the NYSE: https://youtu.be/75LrBmSScvY
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This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.
Jun 19
10 min
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