Matt Hougan, Chief Investment Officer of Bitwise Asset Management, joins Jennifer Sanasie for a special edition of Markets Outlook from the New York Stock Exchange to unpack the market's overnight flip from despair to euphoria. Hougan explains why a traditional 60/40 portfolio is "100% fiat currency," why holding 0% Bitcoin has become a misallocation, and where he's allocating now. Plus, why he gives Bitcoin a good chance of reclaiming $100K this year and sees $1.3 million by 2035.  Stellar Development Foundation CEO Denelle Dixon also joins to unpack Stellar crossing $4 billion in tokenized real-world assets, a 400% jump since January. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Matt Hougan Joins Markets Outlook 00:45 - Despair to Euphoria: What Flipped the Market 03:20 - AI Stocks vs. Bitcoin 05:49 - Brand New Rails: Stellar Crosses $4B in Tokenized RWAs 08:05 - Bitcoin, Zcash, and the Tokenization Trade 14:15 - Matt's Bitcoin Price Prediction This Year and By 2035 - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

Pierre Rochard, CEO of The Bitcoin Bond Company, joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to unpack the narratives driving crypto markets heading into Q4. From his 80K year-end price target to his rebuttal of Mark Cuban's "chips are the new crypto" take, Pierre breaks down why Bitcoin's scarcity story remains intact and why miners pivoting to AI could actually be a tailwind for Bitcoin price. Plus, Bullish's new Head of Tokenization joins to unpack what it means to be the first regulated exchange to trade tokenized equity. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Pierre Rochard Joins Markets Outlook 00:56 - Watching the Fed and Treasury 02:14 - Pierre’s Bitcoin Price Target 02:24 - Responding to Mark Cuban: Chips vs. Bitcoin 06:01 - Why Cuban May Have Latched Onto the Wrong Narrative 07:25 - Will Retail Come Back to Bitcoin? 09:24 - Brand New Rails: Bullish Launches Tokenized Equity Trading 12:02 - Self-Custody vs. Exchanges Post-ColdCard 13:42 - The Best Ways to Get Bitcoin Exposure 15:32 - Bitcoin Miners Pivoting to AI 17:21 - Why Miners Leaving Is Actually Bullish for Bitcoin - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. RealFi is launching August 2026. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

With Fomo posting all-time high fees in August and with roughly 100,000 daily traders, co-founder Se Yong Park joins CoinDesk Contributor Kate Irwin on Markets Outlook to unpack the Solana-to-Robinhood Chain growth story, why social finance apps like Farcaster and Zora never broke out, and how prediction markets could turn a generation of bettors into traders.  - Timecodes: 00:00 - Se Yong Park Joins Markets Outlook 01:11 - Inside FOMO's Record August in Fees 02:22 - Institutional Era, Consumer Endgame 03:43 - Solana, Robinhood Chain, and the Multi-Chain Effect 06:10 - Why Farcaster and Zora Never Broke Out 08:05 - Prediction Markets Will Turn Bettors Into Traders 09:24 - Advice for Founders: Ship Before It's Perfect 10:51 - DeFi is a Matter of When, Not If 12:39 - Regulation, Innovation Exemptions, and Building in the US 13:37 - Gen Z, New Media, and the Rise of Small Creators 15:20 - Q4 Outlook: The Next Breakout App Won't Be Crypto-Branded - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. RealFi is launching August 2026. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. -

With Bitcoin surging past $72K and showing signs of a broader breakout, 10x Research CEO and Founder Markus Thielen joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to explain why he turned bullish early and why he believes the cycle low is already behind us. From Fed tailwinds and institutional flows to the key levels that could unlock a new all-time high, Markus breaks down what's driving the move. Plus, we look inside Symbiotic's partnership with Centrifuge to offer instant USDC liquidity. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Markus Thielen Joins Markets Outlook 00:37 - Where Does Bitcoin End the Year? 02:02 - When Do We See a New ATH? 05:32 - Brand New Rails: Symbiotic x Centrifuge 08:44 - Is Bitcoin Still a Retail Product? 12:03 - $1 Million Bitcoin by 2030? 15:20 - On-Chain Signals to Watch Right Now - This interview was recorded on August 19th before bitcoin's most recent rally. - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. RealFi is launching August 2026. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

DoubleZero Edge is partnering with Kalshi to deliver Wall Street-grade market data to the world's largest CFTC-regulated prediction market. Co-Founder Austin Federa joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to unpack why professional infrastructure took so long to reach crypto, what the 10/10 flash crash revealed about new finance's weaknesses, and why faster data could level the playing field for every trader, not just the big firms. Plus, in today's Brand New Rails, we meet the ship captain working to bring the $2 trillion commercial shipping industry on-chain. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Austin Federa Joins Markets Outlook 00:43 - DoubleZero x Kalshi: Inside the Announcement 02:30 - Why Wall Street Infrastructure Took So Long to Reach Crypto 04:36 - Brand New Rails: Tokenizing the $2 Trillion Shipping Industry 07:13 - Does Faster Data Hurt Retail Traders? 08:16 - Prediction Markets: More Than a Narrative 10:31 - Access, Disruption, and Federa's 2017 Thesis 12:13 - The Catalyst to Watch 13:11 - New Finance's Biggest Challenge - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. RealFi is launching August 2026. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

In his first interview since declaring the ElizaOS token dead, Eliza Labs Founder Shaw Walters sits down with CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie to lay out what he says actually happened. He also makes a broader case for why crypto's casino culture is actively driving out the builders who could make the space matter and why he's still coding Eliza every day regardless. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Shaw Walters Joins CoinDesk 02:23 - “Why Do People Think I Owe Them Anything?" 06:35 - How AI16Z Started: A $75K Joke That Hit $2.6 Billion 10:49 - Does He Regret Launching the Token? 11:43 - Crypto “Needs to Die And…Be Restarted" 15:34 - On the Burwick Lawsuit: "It Was a Total Scam"18:36 - "The Casino Is Not the Industry" 20:40 - Why He’s Still Building Eliza 24:00 - "Stay Away From All of This and Invest In Yourself" - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. This interview has been edited for clarity and focus.

With the CLARITY Act pushed to September and $130 million drained in the Coldcard exploit, Crypto Market Analyst Ray Salmond joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to unpack Fed rate odds, Bitcoin’s four-year cycle, and the key metrics to watch ahead of a potential CLARITY Act vote. Plus, in today’s Brand New Rails, we explore how Dinari is bringing U.S. stocks on-chain. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Ray Salmond Joins Markets Outlook 00:55 - Jobs Report and the Fed 01:58 - Bitcoin's Ceiling and the CLARITY Act Delay 02:26 - Why CLARITY Stalled: Banks, Stablecoins, and the Trump Cloud 04:32 - How Crypto Markets Will Front-Run the CLARITY Vote 06:39 - Brand New Rails: Dinari Brings US Stocks On-Chain 09:26 - Bitcoin's Four-Year Cycle: Still Intact? 12:26 - The Coldcard Hack: An Ideological Blow to Self-Custody 15:06 - Beyond Bitcoin: RWA, Prediction Markets, and the Altcoin Reality - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. RealFi is launching August 2026. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - This episode is hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

Zcash activated its Ironwood upgrade, sealing roughly $1.7 billion in ZEC behind a one-way turnstile after a researcher found a flaw that could have minted counterfeit coins. Here’s everything you need to know. Plus, on Brand New Rails: POSCO International puts its trade receivables on-chain with LG CNS on Injective. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts Markets Outlook. - 00:00 Welcome to Markets Outlook 00:55 Zcash Activates Ironwood, Seals $1.7B Orchard Pool 01:18 The Four-Year Orchard Counterfeit Bug 02:15 How the Turnstile Locks Out Counterfeit Coins 02:32 Quantum Recovery and Verification 03:05 The Voluntary Migration to Ironwood 03:53 Who Is Zcash For? Tushar Jain Weighs In on The Rollup 04:32 Why Ironwood Matters Beyond Zcash 06:19 Brand New Rails: Tokenizing Global Trade 06:38 POSCO Puts Trade Receivables On-Chain with Injective 07:03 What is a Trade Receivable? 07:24 Injective CEO Eric Chen on Faster Settlement - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - Ledn provides a secure and transparent way to access liquidity while maintaining your bitcoin holdings. Perfect 8 year track record of keeping clients assets safe. Don't sell your bitcoin. Get a bitcoin-backed loan. Check out your rate by using their loan calculator at ledn.io - JPEG Trading is a global proprietary trading firm specializing in cryptocurrency and decentralized finance markets. From market structure and liquidity provision to quantitative trading strategies, JPEG Trading operates across the full spectrum of blockchain-based assets. Follow @jpegtrading on X to stay ahead of the latest developments in digital asset markets: https://x.com/jpegtrading - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

Wanchain bridge hack, why Ethereum keeps getting it wrong, and Cardano's outlook with Charles Hoskinson. After a bridge hack rattled the Cardano ecosystem, Charles Hoskinson, CEO and Founder of Input Output, joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to lay out why crypto desperately needs wallet insurance, ZK-powered identity, and white hat rescue frameworks. Plus, what Cardano's latest hard fork really means for decentralized governance, why he thinks Ethereum keeps getting it wrong, and what it will actually take for prices to recover. Plus, we look at the DTCC taking tokenized securities live in today’s Brand New Rails segment. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Charles Hoskinson Joins Markets Outlook 01:25 - Wanchain Bridge Hack and What It Revealed 02:21 - Why Midnight Was Built for This Moment 03:44 - Why Crypto Needs Wallet and Bridge Insurance 05:28 - How ZK Identity Unlocks Recovery and White Hat Rescues 09:46 - The "Unsexy" Unlock: Why Insurance Could Onboard the Masses 13:17 - Cardano's Hard Fork to v11 and What It Means 14:42 - Cardano's Decentralized Governance in Action 17:35 - Executive Function: The Last Governance Milestone 20:08 - Brand New Rails: What’s Next After the  DTCC Moved Tokenized Securities Into Live Production 22:07 - Cardano's Outlook: Narrative Reset, Bitcoin DeFi, and the Partner Chain Model 26:05 - The Anthropic Analogy: Why Doing It Right Beats Doing It Fast 29:12 - Why Ethereum Keeps Getting It Wrong 36:22 - When Will Prices Catch Up? Charles' Market Framework 42:28 - The AI Wildcard and What It Means for Crypto - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - Ledn provides a secure and transparent way to access liquidity while maintaining your bitcoin holdings. Perfect 8 year track record of keeping clients assets safe. Don't sell your bitcoin. Get a bitcoin-backed loan. Check out your rate by using their loan calculator at ledn.io - JPEG Trading is a global proprietary trading firm specializing in cryptocurrency and decentralized finance markets. From market structure and liquidity provision to quantitative trading strategies, JPEG Trading operates across the full spectrum of blockchain-based assets. Follow @jpegtrading on X to stay ahead of the latest developments in digital asset markets: https://x.com/jpegtrading - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

He turned $80,000 into $1.2 Million on one trade. CEO and Founder of Kaizen, Brian Jung joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook. Discover how Jung turned an $80,000 bet on CASHCAT into a million-dollar trade by spotting the Robinhood Chain opportunity before the rest of the market. Plus, why he believes crypto is still in a bear market and what he's watching for the next bull cycle. And in this week's Brand New Rails, Franklin Crypto CIO Seth Ginns explains why tokenized money market funds are becoming one of the fastest-growing areas of digital assets. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Brian Jung Joins Markets Outlook 01:24 - The $80K Trade That Turned Into $1.25 Million 02:13 - How Mistakes Made Brian a Disciplined Trader 03:37 - Why Brian Was Watching Robinhood While Everyone Chased $Ansem 07:34 - How Brian's Research Team Found CASHCAT on Robinhood Chain 10:49 - Why CASHCAT Checked Every Box: The Memecoin Criteria 13:00 - The Exit Strategy: Why Brian Walked Away From a Multi-Seven-Figure Trade 16:13 - Brand New Rails: Tokenized Money Market Funds Hit $15 Billion+ 18:34 - Why Brian Sat Out Most of 2026 20:31 - Is the Bitcoin Bottom In? Brian's Framework for Calling It 23:44 - How Brian Jung Got Into Crypto 25:48 - Brian's Long-Term Outlook - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - Ledn provides a secure and transparent way to access liquidity while maintaining your bitcoin holdings. Perfect 8 year track record of keeping clients assets safe. Don't sell your bitcoin. Get a bitcoin-backed loan. Check out your rate by using their loan calculator at ledn.io - JPEG Trading is a global proprietary trading firm specializing in cryptocurrency and decentralized finance markets. From market structure and liquidity provision to quantitative trading strategies, JPEG Trading operates across the full spectrum of blockchain-based assets. Follow @jpegtrading on X to stay ahead of the latest developments in digital asset markets: https://x.com/jpegtrading - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.