
Join the Making Mensches team (Elana, Jesi/Rocki, and Jessie) and Ayeola Omolara Kaplan for the second episode of our Judaism and Abolition series! Ayeola is a revolutionary surrealist artist who creates artwork that synchronizes abolitionist dreams and experiential reality. Ayeolaâs craft is inspired by her Jewish eco-spirituality and the divinity that seeds the intersecting threads of disability justice, gender liberation, racial equity, and class abolition. In this episode, we talk about ecospiritualism, Cop City in Atlanta, the significance of ecological consciousness in abolition work, teshuva, how we can reconstruct Judaism, and so much more. We are so grateful for Ayeolaâs wisdom and art and hope if youâre listening, youâll go support her.Show Notes:BUY AYEOLAâS ARTDWELL in Revolution MM episode with AyeolaWhy Cop City Goes Against Jewish ValuesThe Prisonerâs Herbal by Nicole RoseUncle Jimâs WormsVermicomposting Reorienting Within a World of Plastic episodeRose Luxemburgâs prison lettersIf you enjoyed this episode, please support Ayeolaâs work.[This episode was recorded in April 2026.]Big thanks to Ayeola for this conversation, Jesi for being part of the team, Jessie for editing the podcast, and to Nate for our podcast music. If you want to support our work, â â â â â â â â â â â â â you can do so here.â â â â â â
May 6
59 min

As a note, we discuss colonial violence in its many forms - including sexual and racial violence - in this episode.In the liberatory tradition of pesach, the Making Mensches team (Elana, Jesi/Rocki, and Jessie) bring you the first episode in what will be an ongoing series on Judaism and Abolition. In this first episode, we discuss the many overlaps between Judaism and Abolition, how abolition shows up in Jewish text and ritual, what abolition means, what this can look like in practice, how it relates to anti-zionism, and so much more.  If you add berries to your seder plate, send us a picture!We are excited to continue discussing this topic and bring other wise folks into the conversation in future episodes <3Show Notes:Judaism and Abolition resource document Making Mensches Haggadah LibraryCritical Resistanceâ â Letter to the Anti-Rape Movement by Project Niaâ What About the Rapists? - Abolitionist Toolboxâ â Hidden Waterâ   Khalilâs fundIf you enjoyed this episode, we are suggesting that donations be made to Matir Asurim![This episode was recorded in March 2026.]Big thanks to Jesi for being part of the interview and the team, Jessie for editing the podcast, and to Nate for our podcast music. If you want to support our work, â â â â â â â â â â â â â you can do so here.â â â â â
Mar 31
1 hr 16 min

We are so excited to share this podcast mashup with you! Elana, Jessie, and Jesi of Making Mensches in conversation with the incredible Lexi Kohanski of Torah for Trans Lives (T4Torah). In addition to her podcast, Lexi is also the Director of Online Learning at the Torah Studio and is currently designing Worlds To Come, a first-of-its-kind tabletop roleplaying game to teach Biblical Hebrew. Obviously Lexi is brilliant beyond belief and it was a true joy to get to co-create with her.In this episode, we explore the ways people engage with Torah both for life and for death, what it means to find ourselves in the texts as queer and trans people, how to begin your Torah exploration if it feels daunting, and so much more. Zionists love to suggest that anti-zionist Jews donât know Torah and weaponize the text, but truly - the Torah is ours. We must continue to make it so.Some linksâŚYou can find Torah Studio classes hereAlthough Lexiâs class with Shel Maala has since happened you can find more Shel Maala classes here and listen to our podcast episode with the founders here or wherever you listen to podcastsMore about the Jewish Liberation Theology Institute can be found here[This episode was recorded in February 2026.]Big thanks to Lexi for this collaboration, Jesi for being part of the interview process, Jessie for editing the podcast, and to Nate for our podcast music. If you want to support our work, â â â â â â â â â â â â you can do so here.â â â â â
Mar 25
59 min

After a brief pause, we're back and better than ever with the poetic presence of Aiyana Masla! In this episode, Elana, Jessie, and Jesi talk to interdisciplinary artist, intergenerational community member, and an anti-bias educator â Aiyana Masla (she/her) about her debut poetry collection â The Underdream. We talk with her about the inspiration for and process of writing The Underdream, the idea of presence as purpose, being in a body, accessible ritual, becoming a dream, finding and connecting to g-d in the world around us, and everything in between. We are so grateful for this gorgeous conversation and can't wait for you to listen too. If you want to support Aiyana and The Underdream, the best way to do so is request a copy of the book at your local bookstore or library! You can also purchase it here.In this episode we focus almost solely on The Underdream, but we encourage you to explore ALL of Aiyana's offerings and hope to have her back soon to talk about more of her practices <3 Some linksâŚ-The Underdream-Aiyana's website (With art for purchase!)-Aiyana's Poetry Instagram-Aiyana's Art Instagram[This episode was recorded in January 2026.]Big thanks to Aiyana for being on the pod, Jesi for being part of the interview process, Jessie for editing the podcast, and to Nate for our podcast music. If you want to support our work, â â â â â â â â â â â you can do so here.â â â â
Feb 25
46 min

In this episode, we talk to writer, performance artist, and organizational consultant Alissa Schwartz (she/her) and book worker, artist, and publisher Patrick Barber (he/they) about Alissaâs book Ancestral Performance Art, published through Patrickâs publishing company - Impeller Press. We talk with them about so many things - but it centers around how we can build deeper relationships with our ancestors (not just genealogical, deceased, human ancestors - but all ancestors!), through speculative work, re-narrativization, and drag. We are so appreciative to them both for this conversation and if youâre in NYC, we hope youâll come see Alissa perform an ancestral drag piece at our upcoming Hanukah Market with Pushcart Judaica on December 14th!Some links to things mentioned in this episodeâŚ-Alissaâs new book!-Alissaâs first book-Patrickâs publishing company & instagram-Alissaâs website & instagram-Theydy Bedbugâs drag class-Helen Klonarisâs workshop-My Grandmotherâs Hands by Resmaa Menakem[This episode was recorded in August 2025.]Big thanks to Alissa and Patrick for being on the pod, Jessie for editing the podcast, and to Nate for our podcast music. If you want to support our work, â â â â â â â â â â you can do so here.â â â â
Nov 17, 2025
59 min

Join Jessie (she/her) and guest interviewer (and beloved Making Mensches collaborator) Jesi (fae/they) for their conversation with artist Liz Awesome (he/him) đ¨ Jessie, Jesi, and Liz talk all things trash, art, and Judaism - as well as ways to infuse our lives with liberation, anger, and grief. As Liz says, âWe already have everything we need, and weâre throwing it away in the trash.âThey discuss the ways that the internet both inhibits and encourages our modes of connection, including how we can best leverage the algorithm to ensure the most marginalized stories are being amplified and heard.Some links to things mentioned in this episodeâŚPolitics of Disposabilitybell hooks on composting anger[This episode was recorded in August 2025.]Big thanks to Liz for being on the pod, Jesi for co-facilitating this interview, Jessie for editing the podcast, and to Nate for our podcast music. If you want to support our work, â â â â â â â â â â you can do so here.â â â â
Oct 9, 2025
1 hr 7 min

Hi Mensches! In this episode weâre joined by Wes (Wendy Elisheva Somerson), author of new book An Anti-Zionist Path to Embodied Jewish Healing: Somatic Practices to Heal Historical Wounds, Unlearn Oppression, and Create a Liberated World to Come. This is a rich conversation filled with so much wisdom from Wes talking about trauma and somatic healing, taking actionable steps to address fear and shame in our bodies, how living into intention (kavanah) can guide us, and truly⌠so much more. Weâre so excited for this episode to finally be out in the world and canât wait for you to listen.You can buy Wesâs book from the publisher - North Atlantic Books, at Third Place Books in Seattle, at Jewitches, or at any local bookstore. While Wes does not recommend purchasing the book on Am*z*n, they do ask that you go and write a review there to help boost the book :)Some links to things mentioned in this episodeâŚRuach Healing GroupSefaria The Embodiment Institute  [This episode was recorded in July 2025.]Big thanks to Wes for being on the pod, Emily from North Atlantic Books, Jessie for editing the podcast, and to Nate for our podcast music. If you want to support our work, â â â â â â â â â â you can do so here.â â â â
Sep 18, 2025
54 min

Welcome back, Mensches! Join us for a conversation with Deatra Cohen and Adam Siegal, co-authors of Ashkenazi Herbalism and new book Woven Roots: Recovering the Healing Plant Traditions of Jews and Their Neighbors in Eastern Europe. We discuss how Deatra and Adam began doing this work, the main differences between Woven Roots and Ashkenazi Herbalism, communal care in the Pale, the process of recovering traditions, plant medicine, and so much more. You can buy both of their books on Jewitches.com. Some of the things they mention during this episode areâŚYizkor books Memoirs of a Grandmother Our episode with Julie WeitzRokhl KafrissenMax Dashu and the Suppressed Histories Archives[This episode was recorded in July 2025.]Big thanks to Adam and Deatra for being on the pod, Emily from North Atlantic Books, Jessie for editing the podcast, and to Nate for our podcast music. If you want to support our work, â â â â â â â â â â you can do so here.â â â â
Aug 29, 2025
1 hr 1 min

Join Making Mensches for our special conversation with Binya and Xava, creators of Shel Maala Yeshiva - a digital-first queer Yeshiva! We talk about the importance of queer, anti-zionist, accessible Torah and Talmud study, the rewards and challenges of this work, abolitionist and anti-zionist Torah, and so much more. We canât wait for you to listen, and we hope youâll join us for our joint event on MAY 23RD - both in NYC and online on Zoom. Please RSVP for more details!The work Shel Maala does is essential, please consider supporting their work! Join one of their classes, such as the one we discuss in this episode, Torah from the Inside Out: Cohort for Incarcerated People and Allies. If youâre curious about (or want to support, we hope!) Matir Asurim, you can find more info here.[This episode was recorded in March 2025.]Big thanks to Xava and Binya for being on the pod, to Jessie for editing the podcast, and to Nate for our podcast music. If you want to support our work, â â â â â â â â â you can do so here.â â â â
May 19, 2025
55 min

We hope you're as excited as we are for this conversation with Joey Ramona, iconic Toronto based punk rock tattooer, visual artist, and a self-described âweird Jewish punk guy.â We talk with Joey about being an anti-zionist Jewish tattooer, about how tattoos can help people deepen their connection to Judaism, about the concept of doikayt and researching ashkenazi tradition, about mutual aid and community organizing, and so much more! If you want to book an appointment with Joey, reach out to them at [email protected]â We feel so lucky that we get to have incredible conversations with people we admire so much <3Links to things we discuss in the episode: The zine Joey made a few years ago about Jewish tattooingToronto Indigenous Harm Reduction orgSudan Solidarity Collective Toronto PYM chapterJews Say No to Genocide [This episode was recorded in March 2025.]Big thanks to Joey for being on the pod, to Jessie for editing the podcast, and to Nate for our podcast music. If you want to support our work, â â â â â â â â you can do so here.â â â â
May 7, 2025
38 min
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