"If you think about innovation, if you think about maybe even at some point starting your own corporate venture fund or have corporate entrepreneurship, that's almost the end stage of a process like this. In the beginning, it's just like an iceberg". This episode with Sasa Saric from hivetime and Markus Schwarz from Alfmeier Automotive Systems Shanghai features a deep dive from both a client’s and consultant’s perspective on their transformation journey together, with a specific focus on strategic and cultural change, and implementing localized initiatives to win in China.