<p>In this episode, Darren/Exo and Nathan discuss the revelations presented in the latest book about covert government investigations into the Phenomenon by James Lacatski, Colm Kelleher and George Knapp. </p>

042 - The Ontology of UFO Intelligence

Liminal Phrames is a podcast dedicated to the exploration of the meaning-making models we form around UFOs, contact with non-human intelligence, and paranormal experience. Not only do experiences with the UFO Phenomenon and high strangeness challenge conventional notions of reality, but they force us to venture into new territory altogether, pioneering a new framing of the real with blurred lines and indistinct categories. Hard answers may be hard to come by here, but on Liminal Phrames, Darren King (ExoAcademian) and Nathan are fully invested in asking these most intriguing of questions.