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Amanda Goodall, PhD, joins me in Part Two of our conversation discussing the advanced degree program for physician leaders that she founded. She talks about barriers to physician leadership development including political correctness, assumptions that physicians aren’t interested, and the daunting “re-entry” into entrenched cultures. Dr. Goodall points to a central problem with business schools: the separation of business education from any actual workplace, profession, or culture. This echoes Henry Mintzberg’s concerns cited in Licensed to Lead podcast episode #3 (“Who are the Masters in Healthcare?”).Dr. Goodall draws a comparison between the challenges of increasing physician leadership and increasing organizational diversity. Before signing off, she spills the beans on her Big Hairy Audacious Goal, talks about being a Tiger Ambassador, and introduces her walking partners.Tune in as we dive into the questions:Do physicians want to take on management and leadership roles?What makes physician leadership development appealing and effective?What are the parallels between increasing workforce diversity and engaging the best physicians in leadership roles?In This Episode: [01:47] Dr. Goodall describes her advanced degree program for physicians: Executive Masters In Medical Leadership.[12:06] Business schools have separated professional expertise from management education.[13:02] The pitfalls of management by people who don’t understand the core business: micromanagement and measurement.[16:23] Why experts are crucial and often challenging for politicians.Key Takeaways:Discover the benefits of physician-only leader development programsThe business school mindset has separated expertise from management at great cost to healthcareHealthcare systems must ask what physicians need and want in order to increase desirability of leadership positionsMeet Amanda GoodallAmanda Goodall, PhD, is an Associate Professor at The Business School (formerly Cass) at City, University of London. Her doctoral research about academic leaders was published as Socrates in the Boardroom: Why Research Universities Should be Led by Top Scholars (Princeton University Press, 2009). She has subsequently studied a variety of industries, from Formula One racing and the NBA to academia and healthcare. Her central argument is that leaders should be highly qualified experts in the core business of the industry they lead.She is the founder and director of an advanced leadership degree for physicians: Executive Masters in Medical Leadership at The Business School, City, University of London.Dr. Goodall is widely published and her research and media is available at www.AmandaGoodall.comResources:Website Amanda GoodallTwitter @AmandaGoodall1LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-h-goodall-83a819130/Physician-Leaders and Hospital Performance: Is there an association PDFPhD thesis summaryShould Doctors Run Hospitals? PDFMotivating doctors into leadership and management: a cross-sectional surveyHow the coronavirus pandemic has tested UK doctors’ leadership skillsSign up for our newsletter: https://bit.ly/LicensedToLeadSignup
