Ryan, Kevin & Tiffany welcome Nathaniel Gillis - Author & Demonologist. We'll discuss devils, demons, unclean spirits, aliens, and other stuff that makes our hair stand up. About Nathaniel: After living in a haunted house, Nathaniel spent 20 years researching what it was he encountered. Nathaniel has sought to redefine the nature of haunting phenomena, ghosts and high strangeness. As one of the thought leaders in his field, Nathaniel’s hypothesis is not that aliens are demons but that a singular intelligence has worn both as masks in which to hide. In fact, he is often quoted for his concept of the phenomenon…. "The reason they are playing by different rules is because they are playing a different game.”