
As Brown girls, hair is a symbol of strength and a connection to our ancestral roots. And for many people, hair is also tied to identity and phases of life. We are talking with Amy’s hairstylist/hair therapist, Priya, in a special episode. When a client is in her chair, she isn’t simply trimming away split ends; she’s helping people release their worries, concerns, and stories they long to change. And we even talk hair tips! You won’t want to miss this one. In this episode, we discuss:
The biggest bag of Bugles, ever!
“Chop, chop!”
Welcoming our guest, Priya (Amy’s secret keeper)
How hair changes parallel with life transitions
The hairstylist “radar”
You can’t rush a great hairstyle
Beauty and the break-up
How Priya helped Amy get her proposal
“Just try it out”
Hair as a way to express yourself
Amy’s bold hairstyles over the years
Priya’s hair freedom
Accidental therapy
A client Priya helped
“You just never know what people are going through.”
Crown chakra
Creating mental space
Hairstylists being there for the journey as a safe space
Tips to be a better listener
Worst parts of the job
Everything you wish you knew about hair and getting your hair done
Taking care of your hair
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May 30, 2021
42 min

As we have spent the longest time at home since childhood, nostalgia has taken hold of our entertainment options. And we are also looking for new and interesting stories to captivate our attention. Yes, we are talking television. Your two favorite brown girls are dishing what we are watching and the throwback TV that keeps us smiling during tough times. Prepare for lots of laughter. In this episode, we discuss:
Amy’s Zen vibe
Making it to the end of the week
Way back when we waited for Netflix DVDs
Overheards from Amy’s Mom
“Sex and the City” stands the test of time
The show that makes Amy laugh so much, she can’t watch it during the workday
The staples in your TV diet
Period pieces and a moment for Rege Jean-Page
Outlander accents and characters
The importance of chemistry between characters
“Some days I’m clearly Frankie, and other days, I’m so Grace”
The satisfaction of transformational shows
Witches, demons, and vampires
Getting recommendations from friends and family
The magic of Mindy Kaling and the importance of representation
Women’s vs. dude’s shows?
Yes to Henry Cavill
Suspending disbelief and the escapism of TV
Tell us your favorite shows!
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May 8, 2021
31 min

We all have a relationship with our stuff, but as we spend more time than ever living amongst our stuff in pandemic times, the change of seasons welcomes a refresh in the form of spring cleaning. Your two favorite brown girls are discussing how to deal with sentimental attachments to your things, our approach to cleaning, and how to reinvent your space from inside out. In this episode, we discuss:
Cinder-Amy
Child of the 80s and free weekend labor
Not having one’s own “stuff” or space
The fear of scarcity
Amy’s sacred utility box
The great purge of notecards
Holding on to things for the sake of holding on to them
Marie Kondo has changed our folding forever
Sentimental items
Making rules about acquiring new stuff
“Money was spent on this, and therefore I must keep it!”
Giving things away
Swap parties for unused, unloved stuff
Sultana’s struggle with books
Dealing with someone’s stuff after…
Merging lives with someone’s stuff
The power of Feng Shui in understanding the energy of your space
The legacy of our stuff
Reinventing your space
Our steps to spring cleaning
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Apr 17, 2021
44 min

We have all said or heard “I’m sorry” before, but forgiveness goes beyond an apology. In this conversation, we are going deep on forgiveness--how to do it well and why it matters (that includes giving yourself grace on the things you didn’t accomplish during quarantine). Your two favorite brown girls dish the advice and stories on forgiveness, with a dose of laughter.
In this episode, we discuss:
Why do we have lawns in the first place?
Finishing projects you start
Movie and a song
What we didn’t accomplish during the pandemic
Sound effects
Sultana’s music and Amy’s crouton-making adventure
It’s easy to spiral into shame
How we learn forgiveness (forced sibling apology?)
The barriers in the way of forgiveness
The environment we grew up in
The adage of “forgive but don’t forget”
Spiraled growth and healthy detachment
Going to the site of impact and getting clear for yourself
“True forgiveness is when you can say ‘thank you for that experience’” - Oprah Winfrey
Learning from ending relationships and getting clarity
Limiting beliefs that are holding you back
The influence of family
“We can see two versions of a situation and they can both be right”
Repeating patterns from childhood and generational trauma
Amy’s love language quiz with her parents
The power of asking open-ended questions
Your "forgiveness starter pack"
How to know if you need to forgive someone
Ho’oponopono healing technique (from Hawai’i)
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Mar 28, 2021
54 min

Feeling ready, or not ready, for a change? As the seasons change and we move into Spring, your two favorite brown girls are talking about all the things: mercury retrograde (a little woo-woo for you), finding closure (or not) as seasons shift in life, avoiding burnout, meditation, letting go of perfection, and examining our thoughts.
In this episode, we discuss:
Checking in
Mercury retrograde (and its effects)
“Take it all back!”
“I’ve got the power”
Vaccine update
The illusion of control
Inspiration of gardening shows (and a good nature analogy)
What the pandemic is teaching us
Dealing with unexpected change
Giving ourselves permission to rest
Cultural influences on being “all the things”
The benefit of a meditation practice
The spiritual matrix
The power of suggestion
Metacognition
Checking implicit bias
“Your thoughts are optional”
Email anxiety
Letting go of perfection and embracing the beautiful mess
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Mar 24, 2021
39 min

We upgrade this week from two brown girls to three when our friend, Felicia Dhanani, joins us. We chat about her cultural heritage, what traditions she is passing along to her daughter, her take on cultural appropriation (and what that means in places like the yoga studio), her journey to heal, and how she’s living her best life as a single Mom (you will want to check out her “Lioness Pride” community for single mothers).
In this episode, we discuss:
Felicia’s quiet space (and cool floor desk!)
Her cultural identity -- an Indian girl born in America with a Spanish name whose parents are from East Africa with a more progressive mindset
Differences from traditional Indian culture and how she feels about it today
Bringing an openness and freedom to raising her daughter when it comes to culture (rather than conflict)
Code-switching and connection
Meme culture
When culture goes mainstream (yoga) -- intention matters
“We are grasping for something more”
Amy’s experience in yoga classes
“Yoga instructors make beautiful, magical things happen (but be authentic)”
First generation American experience as an Indian
The mind-body connection
Expectations vs. reality and authenticity
Yoga, ayurveda, and asafoetida (and Amy’s childhood)
Felicia's yoga practice
Meditation can show up in different ways
"Knowing something doesn’t make you better than anyone else"
What Felicia is passing on to her daughter (cultural generational connection)
A water break
Conscious parenting - “having the love of family while ensuring the things she’s learning are the things I want her to keep”
What motivated Felicia to start a community (“Lioness Pride”) for single mothers following her divorce
“We worked on being divorced...how to get to a good place with ourselves, and with eachother”
Getting clear so you can focus on what’s most important
Creating a space for other women struggling with conflict and committed to healing
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Mar 14, 2021
42 min

Prepare to be inspired to think about parenting from a different perspective---and to think about your own childhood and how you would “re-parent” yourself if you could. We talk with Devin Jae Wilber---photographer, entrepreneur, and Mom to two beautiful children, one with autism--about how showing up authentically as a parent and releasing perfection has given her greater joy and the opportunity to contribute to others. And, we laugh a lot too! In this episode, we talk about:
Katy Perry and lions
Introducing Devin Jae Wilber -- “Mom extraordinaire” + photographer + entrepreneur
The “Mom” expectations
“If I can’t keep a plant alive”
Make up your own rules about parenting
The belief that mothers are supposed to be the CEOs of the house
Blue hair for picture day
Trusting the process of exploration for children
“If you’re going to fall, learn how to fall the right way”
Shame and growth
Dealing with different parenting philosophies
The fallacy of “Pinterest Mom”
Having a special needs daughter
“Give everyone a break”
Showing up imperfectly
The origins of Devin’s passion for advocacy
Her daughter’s autism diagnosis
Doing something meaningful with your anger
The “First Words Project” at FSU
Formulating a plan matters---so does gut instinct
Managing anger -- part of the grief process
Being a realist and dealing with people that make uninformed remarks
Protecting parents’ mental health
“There’s no playbook”
Coping with grief
Devin’s new plan - not taking “no” as no
We have to be our own advocates
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Mar 7, 2021
49 min

We’ve all heard the adage, “you are what you eat,” but what does that really mean? We discuss how our childhood and culture shaped our food habits, vegetarianism, and how to add intention to your daily diet with some humor, stories, and sass. In this episode, we talk about:
Amy’s morning oatmeal
How our eating in childhood shaped our eating as adults
The scarcity mindset
The origin story of Sultana’s vegetarianism
“How did we not know that chicken came from chicken?”
The celebratory aspects of meat
How parents felt about our food choices
Amy’s Long Island food memories
“Who cares...eat what you want, be happy”
It’s easier to eat less meat now
Ancestry and vegetarianism
Book recommendation
Eating meatless at restaurants
Giving up soda
Sharing food in relationships
Becoming intentional about sugar consumption
The relationship between exercise and food
Quarantine and overeating
Making small changes in the diet to see how your body responds
Suggestions for late night snacking
Amy's intermittent fasting experience
The value of breakfast
Advice for those looking to change food habits
Combatting quarantine weight
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Feb 22, 2021
49 min

On this most strange and special of holidays, we are going beyond the greeting card, and supporting our listeners by answering your challenging questions about love and relationships. Your love gurus are here for you! Grab a cup of chai (or coffee or tea) and join us. In this episode, we discuss:
Amy’s hair + Valentine’s Day plans
Reversing roles on Valentine’s Days (single to coupled, and coupled to single)
How Amy made Valentine’s Day special when she was single
Remembering our “Valentine’s Day Sux” party from college
Managing Valentine’s Day expectations
The power of friendship to fill the void
Fill up your own bucket
Can love overcome political differences?
Masters vs. disasters (dealing with minefield topics)
The 3 ways you can show up in discussions
Setting an intention for difficult conversations
Considering what happened in a person’s life that might inform their strong views
Recalling Amy’s father’s experience from 1984 and its impact
Should I stay or should I go?
You have to invest in yourself
Look at the things that are easiest to solve
Happiness doesn’t look the same to every person
Even though you think things cannot change, things inevitably change
How have you abandoned yourself?
The process of journaling as a feedback loop
Engage in a conversation with yourself
Struggling with identity issues
The “Four Horsemen” - considering toxic dynamics in a relationship
You teach your partner how to treat you
Dissecting codependency
Boundaries are necessary to have healthy relationships
Geometry as an analogy for relationships
“You have to know where your ‘no’ is”
Carving out an independent persona
True love is made up of two individuals
The body is a messenger
Everything can change
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Feb 14, 2021
52 min

For our first book club selection, we read Glennon Doyle’s memoir, “Untamed.” Direct, compelling, and unapologetic in its delivery, this collection of life snapshots call attention to deeper issues that exist in society, particularly in the way women are taught to behave and move in the world. With Glennon’s strong narrative voice, she delivers a powerful punch to all those who seek to have more life in their life. Whether you’ve read it or not, you will gain a nugget of wisdom from the discussion. In this episode we cover:
The structure of the book
How the book is inspiring Amy to write
Unlearning what isn’t working for you
A whole family vs. having a specific structure
Using the cheetah as symbolism for our “taming”
Reframing our relationship with anger
The benefit of listening to an audiobook, especially when it’s a memoir
Announcing our next book club selection: “The Millionaire Next Door: The Surprising Secrets of America's Wealthy” by Dr. Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko
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Feb 14, 2021
15 min
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