Folks, this is it! The epic two part finale to the JUST podcast. Listen in to hear all of Jes's thoughts and takeaways from three seasons of conversations around justice. And make sure you catch the second part to get Rob's views.If the podcast has made an impact in your life, please consider reaching out to Jes and Rob at [email protected] to let them know!0:00 Intro0:43 Episode starts2:18 Rob makes an announcement4:33 Jes's feelings about JUST milestones7:21 Rob reflects on Jes's work12:03 The importance of laughter15:49 Rob gives a high level view of the episode17:42 Jes checks in with Rob21:32 Rob checks in with Jes25:14 Rob begins interviewing Jes25:37 How did the podcast start?33:55 What were your favorite interviews?45:45 Honorable mentions48:40 Who is on your bucket list to interview?53:34 What lessons have you learned?62:41 What advice do you have for listeners?67:04 What's next for Jes?74:33 Outro/InterludeThank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.Our Producer:Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave AudioOur EditorChris Pappalardo

In the epic second part of the JUST finale, Rob shares his insights and experiences. With over 50 episodes across 3 seasons, there's a treasure trove of wisdom to discuss and reflect on.If the podcast has made an impact in your life, please consider reaching out to Jes and Rob at [email protected] to let them know!0:00 Intro/Interlude0:23 Episode starts4:00 Jes begins to frame up the episode5:51 How did JUST come to be?17:40 How did you set the values for JUST?23:54 What were your top 5 interviews?37:11 Who is on your interview bucket list?45:05 What did you learn from JUST?59:44 What advice would you give listeners?66:11 What's next for Rob?71:28 Rob and Jes thank folks80:10 OutroThank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.Our Producer:Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave AudioOur EditorChris Pappalardo

David Spickard makes a return to the Just podcast this week, with updates about his leadership cohorts, an upcoming book, and the four qualities of a just leader. If you want to learn more, you can reach David directly at [email protected] the Connell Green college fund!0:00 Intro0:43 Episode starts1:16 Jes's check in3:53 Rob's check in6:55 Rob introduces David7:28 David joins the call9:39 Rob reads David's bio12:15 Why are you writing a book?16:18 How has your cohort's leadership changed?25:26 How have you seen "others focused" leadership play out?31:09 Give us some insight on the other three qualities37:49 What is a fusion friendship in your life?41:50 What is the future of just leadership?46:43 Where can people learn more?49:51 Debrief55:40 OutroThank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.Our Producer:Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave AudioOur EditorChris Pappalardo

This week's guest is Maggie Kane, founder and executive director of A Place At The Table Cafe in Raleigh. Maggie shares inspiring stories of community and friendship, and describes her unique model for focusing on dignity while tackling food insecurity.0:00 Intro0:43 Episode starts2:55 Rob's check in4:27 Jes's check in6:49 Maggie joins the call8:30 Jes reads Maggie's bio9:51 What led you to this work?20:12 What were the early years like?25:19 How did COVID impact your leadership?30:21 Interlude31:57 Does the issue of dependency still show up in your model?36:55 What are some fusion friendships in your life?43:03 How can listeners show up?47:15 Debrief47:57 Rob's takeaways50:40 Jes's takeaways57:09 OutroThank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.Our Producer:Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave AudioOur EditorChris Pappalardo

This week on Just, Rob and Jes talk to Dr. Erin Moore, the Executive Director of The Center for Racial and Social Justice at Shaw University. They talk about the legacy of change at Shaw, the next generation of student-led change, and ways to measure the progress of that change.0:00 Intro0:43 Episode starts1:14 Jes's check in5:37 Rob's check in7:49 Rob introduces Dr. Moor8:32 Dr. Moor joins the conversation9:25 Rob gives Dr. Moor's bio11:51 What is your story?16:37 What is the legacy of Shaw?19:34 How did the Center come to be?27:23 How do you measure progress?33:51 What fusion friendships have impacted how you work?48:31 What's one way listeners can show up?52:17 How can people follow the Center's work?55:45 OutroThank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.Our Producer:Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave AudioOur EditorChris Pappalardo

Joining us this week on JUST is Genelle Aldred, a journalist, author, speaker, and storyteller. She's an ambassador for SANDS, and author of the book Communicate for Change, which inspired this conversation. Tune in and enjoy!0:00 Intro0:43 Episode starts1:45 Jes's check in5:05 Rob's check in6:48 Rob introduces Genelle to the call7:26 Genelle joins9:09 Rob gives Genelle's bio10:11 What's your story?14:58 What about the present moment makes it hard to discuss issues of injustice?20:18 Interlude21:32 Rob quotes from Genelle's book23:14 What led you to model "putting down your stone"?29:35 Why is it important to appeal to both the heart and the mind?33:52 What is the term "activist savior"?39:06 What advice would you give folks entering the holiday season?44:19 Is there anything you'd like to leave listeners with?46:09 Wrap up and goodbyes47:22 OutroThank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.Our Producer:Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave AudioOur EditorChris Pappalardo

Mark Charles joins the show today in a conversation about race and conciliation for the nation. Mark is a speaker, writer, and consultant, and his book Unsettling Truths inspired Rob to reach out for this episode. You can learn more about Mark at wirelesshogan.com, and purchase his book here. See below for more links mentioned in the show!0:00 Intro0:43 Episode starts1:43 Jes checks in with Rob3:55 Rob checks in with Jes6:43 Mark joins the conversation7:01 Mark gives a traditional introduction8:34 Jes provides some background on Mark9:34 What is your story?21:05 What is the doctrine of discovery?26:59 What role do narratives play in perpetuating unjust systems?32:29 Interlude34:36 What is historical trauma?46:31 Has your book had the response you were hoping for, and is it playing the role you wanted?51:52 What role can listeners play58:21 Debrief59:17 Rob's takeaways62:06 Jes's takeaways71:00 OutroNative Land websiteProphetic Lament bookThank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.Our Producer:Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave AudioOur EditorChris Pappalardo

Today on JUST, Rob and Jes interview Royce Hathcock about the long-term work of neighboring. Royce shares his faith story and why he thinks after 25 years on the same corner, things are only just beginning. Royce is the Executive Director of Neighbor to Neighbor, a community outreach organization focused on good neighboring, and a Senior Pastor at Tapestry Church of the Nazarene. 0:00 Intro 0:43 Episode starts3:35 Jes's check in5:51 Rob's check in7:56 Rob introduces Royce8:26 Royce joins the call9:15 Rob gives some background on Royce12:23 What's your story, what led you to community development?23:44 What advice would you give yourself in 1996?29:22 Interlude30:35 What issues have come up over your time in Raleigh, and what assets have you found in your community?39:20 Tell us more about One Wake48:21 Have you had a particularly meaningful fusion friendship?51:21 What's one thing that listeners can do to show up?54:56 Rob thanks Royce, goodbyes56:26 Debrief56:38 Jes's takeaways58:50 Rob's takeaways62:52 Rob and Jes discuss "no permanent friends"64:38 Wrap up67:20 OutroThank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.Our Producer:Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave AudioOur EditorChris Pappalardo

[Episode summary]0:00 Intro0:42 Episode starts1:53 Rob checks in with Jes3:48 Jes checks in with Rob6:03 Rob welcomes Daniel to the show7:11 Rob introduces listeners to Daniel's work10:10 What's your story, your justice journey?15:48 Tell us about CRT, and what gaps do white people have in understanding it?26:14 Interlude26:47 How do you partner with neighborhoods?33:55 What advice would you give an organization on creating better relationships with their neighborhoods?38:49 Is there a fusion friendship that has impacted you the most?44:15 What's one thing listeners can do to show up?48:58 Jes and Rob say goodbye to Daniel49:04 Debriefs49:43 Jes's takeaways51:49 Rob's takeaways55:01 Jes and Rob wrap up57:44 OutroThank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.Our Producer:Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave AudioOur EditorChris Pappalardo

Joy Currey joins the show today to talk with Rob and Jes about nonprofit iteration, the importance of a good team, and the strength of triangles. Joy grew up on a farm, taught in schools in Philadelphia and Brooklyn, and in 2008 founded CORRAL, a faith-motivated nonprofit that prepares adolescent girls in high-risk situations with skills, resources, and opportunities so they can gain access to bright futures. 0:00 Episode starts 2:06 Rob's check in7:10 Jes's check in9:40 Joy joins the call10:03 Jes reads Joy's bio14:00 What's your story?25:02 What did you change about CORRAL during the pandemic?33:19 Interlude37:33 How do you have conversations within your organization about structural racism?49:29 How do you have those conversations with your board or with sponsors?54:02 How do you prioritize rest?58:47 How can listeners show up?62:17 Rob and Jes say goodbye to Joy62:23 Debriefs62:36 Jes's takeaways65:05 Rob's takeaways68:15 Goodbyes68:24 Outro Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show!Follow DJ Pdogg online:www.djpdogg.comTwitterInstagramFollow Producer Lo KeyInstagramOur sponsors:ReCity NetworkCoastal Credit UnionOur hosts:Jes Averhart, cofounder of Black Wallstreet HomecomingRob Shields, executive director of the Recity Network.Our Producer:Ben Azevedo, owner of Bear Cave AudioOur EditorChris Pappalardo