Ian speaks with Noah Lennox and Pete Kember—aka Panda Bear and Sonic Boom—about the annoying Victor Wembanyama, ditching Spotify, the former glory of the charts, Lou Reed's Pickwick era, making music that makes them laugh, the evolution of their collaborative relationship, annoying-sounding keyboards, fostering a community that values art, and their sublime new record, A ? OF WHEN. "A ? OF WHEN" AVAILABLE NOW (BUT NOT ON SPOTIFY)