Ian speaks with the great Robert Hilburn about his excellent new biography of Randall Stuart Newman, A Few Words In Defense of Our Country, Randy's status amongst the great songwriters, and Hilburn's legendary interviews with Bob Dylan. <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-few-words-in-defense-of-our-country-the-biography-of-randy-newman-robert-hilburn/21057699">BUY "A FEW WORDS IN DEFENSE OF OUR COUNTRY" NOW</a><a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-apr-04-ca-dylan04-story.html">READ ROBERT'S 2004 INTERVIEW WITH BOB</a>

Stephen John Kalinich: A WORLD OF PEACE MUST COME

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