There is no such thing as a typical day for Dr Carl de Wet. A General Practitioner in Logan, Carl is also the Primary Care Clinical Lead for Queensland Health's Healthcare Improvement Unit and the Gold Coast Primary Health Network (PHN). During COVID-19, Carl has taken on the role of Primary Care Lead for Queensland's COVID-19 pandemic response. We spoke to Carl about this role and whether he thinks the pandemic could assist in the state's efforts to improve healthcare integration.