
In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen preview Pope Leo XIV’s visit to France, set for Sept. 25-28. The two unpack Pope Leo’s itinerary for the trip, give context for the political situation in the country and discuss what messages the pope may send to both secular and ecclesial authorities in a country and church that are being reshaped by the arrival of newcomers.
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Chapters:
00:00 News: Pope Leo to visit Latin America2:12 Background on Pope Leo's trip to France11:07 The EU, war, and multilateralism15:19 The pope's diplomatic balancing act18:20 A religious spring in France?24:00 Scandals, wounds and reconciliation29:20 Who the pope is meeting
Links:
Pope Leo XIV will meet with the French abuse survivors as critics demand action
As Pope Leo prepares to visit France, can its ‘Catholic moment’ become a lasting revival?
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Sep 25
37 min

In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen discuss the “birthday gifts” Pope Leo XIV gave to the Vatican on his 71st birthday: an expansion of the Vatican Library and archives and the repeal of Covid-era salary cuts. The hosts explain Vatican salaries and what has changed financially for the Holy See since the pandemic.
In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry give a primer on “Baby Bishops’ School,” the annual training for newly-ordained bishops that recently concluded in Rome.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:42 Pope Leo repeals Covid-era salary cuts
4:52 How Vatican employees are compensated
7:52 The Vatican’s financial recovery since 2024
10:39 Vatican finances under Pope Leo
15:06 Vatican Library and archive expansion
18:33 Baby Bishops’ School explained
21:03 Bishops get international perspective
24:49 Pope Leo’s address to new bishops
29:43 The Pope Leo ‘style’ of being bishop
33:40 What could change for bishops under Leo
35:30 Outro and credits
Links:Pope Leo celebrates his 71st birthday—by giving gifts to the Vatican
Is Pope Leo ‘Americanizing’ Vatican fundraising?
What Pope Leo has said about an ‘A.I. pause’
Pope Leo calls for ‘culture of negotiation’ at meeting of North and South American leaders
Synodality, multiculturalism and working with Pope Leo: Archbishop Costelloe on the Australian Catholic Church
Pope Leo warns technology cannot replace the value of human relationships
Cardinal Czerny awarded inaugural Pope Leo XIV Sustainability Medal
Pope Leo commemorates 9/11, praying for all who ‘bear wounds of that tragic day’
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Sep 18
38 min

In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen take the opportunity of Pope Leo’s 71st birthday on Monday, Sept. 14, to look back at what he has accomplished thus far in his papacy and what major items remain on his desk for the fall, including trips to France and Latin America, a series of high-profile appointments and the ongoing trials of Marko Rupnik and Angelo Becciu.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
3:21 Pope Leo celebrates his 71st birthday
5:50 A review of Pope Leo's first year
10:01 Pope Leo's effect on geopolitics
13:53 Pope Leo assembles a diverse new team
21:50 Leo's focus on peace, poverty and A.I.
28:10 Pope Leo is in no rush
29:10 The pope's preferences for bishops
35:11 Plans for filling bishop vacancies
37:03 Marko Rupnik trial updates
40:53 A new attitude on Vatican finances
44:30 Outro
Links:
How do popes celebrate their birthdays? Pizza, parties and puppies (from 2025)
Is Pope Leo ‘Americanizing’ Vatican fundraising?
Pope Leo: Catholics cannot be ‘unengaged spectators’ amid ‘injustice, discrimination and violence’
Pope Leo’s visit to France likely to attract a million people
Peruvian city to unveil world’s tallest statue of Pope Leo for trip to South America
A long-awaited reckoning: A timeline of the Father Marko Rupnik case
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Sep 11
47 min

Pope Leo today received the National Constitution Center’s liberty medal and gave an acceptance speech via livestream from the Vatican. Colleen Dulle recaps his message.
Links from the show:
Read: Pope Leo’s message to the United States on its 250th anniversary
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Jul 3
2 min

Today, July 2, in response to the SSPX’s illicit ordinations of bishops, the Vatican announced that not only were the bishops involved in the ordination automatically excommunicated and in schism, but that any clergy of SSPX or lay members who “adhere” to the schism are also to be considered excommunicated.
Links from the show:
The Vatican and SSPX controversy, explained
Vatican declares excommunicated SSPX bishops, warns priests and lay faithful of schism
Analysis: SSPX excommunications show what Pope Leo means by church ‘unity’
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Jul 3
2 min

On this season finale of “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry discuss the hectic weeks before Pope Leo’s summer vacation. First they recap the pope’s trip to Pavia to visit the remains of St. Augustine and the home of St. Frances Xavier Cabrini, his speech to the World Food Program and the Vatican’s denial of the German bishops’ request to allow lay people to preach homilies. They also look ahead to this week’s consistory of cardinals, the illicit ordinations planned by SSPX, the pope’s address to Americans on July 3 and his trip to Lampedusa July 4, along with how Leo plans to spend his summer vacation.
In this episode, Gerry also breaks the news of how many days Pope Leo will spend in Argentina, Peru and Uruguay this fall.
0:00 Intro
1:17 Pope Leo’s visit to Pavia and Cabrini’s hometown
4:52 Breaking News - Pope Leo’s agenda for Latin America
5:44 Pope Leo’s visit to the World Food Program
10:50 Vatican says no to lay homilies during Mass
11:35 Meeting of continental synod leaders at Vatican
16:38 Consistory of cardinals on war, AI and the synod
23:49 Cardinals could discuss SSPX at consistory
28:44 Pope Leo’s address to Americans July 3
34:06 Pope Leo’s July 4 visit to Lampedusa
34:53 What we know about Pope Leo’s summer plans
39:22 Please fill out our listener survey!
Links:
Pope Leo XIV exalts first American saint Cabrini as a model for Christians for her care of migrants
Pope Leo: War is ‘fed more easily’ than the hungry
Vatican to German bishops: No lay people preaching homilies at Mass
SSPX stands firm against Vatican II in open letter to Pope Leo
Extraordinary consistory signals Pope Leo’s push to work with cardinals on global challenges
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Jun 26
42 min

Pope Leo visited Spain from June 6-12, a visit that drew record-breaking crowds. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell recaps for Colleen Dulle the highlights from the pope’s three stops: Madrid, Barcelona and the Canary Islands. On the last day, Gerry reports, Leo spoke out against those who take advantage of migrants “like I’ve rarely seen him,” shouting, “Stop! Repent!”
After this episode was recorded, Pope Leo spoke to journalists outside Castel Gandolfo, saying “Thank God” for the U.S.-Iran memorandum of understanding and commenting on the upcoming illicit ordinations of bishops for the Society of St. Pius X. Regarding the latter, he said, ““If they make that choice, I am sorry, but we must move forward.”
Interview: Madrid’s Cardinal Cobo says Pope Leo’s visit to Spain ‘is bringing out the best in people’
In Spain, Pope Leo denounces polarization and hails commitment to multilateralism
More than one million attend Pope Leo’s Mass and procession in the heart of Madrid
Pope Leo defends the unborn and migrants in historic speech to Spanish parliament
Pope Leo meets with 6 clergy abuse survivors in Spain
Pope Leo blesses 21 ambulances that an Argentine nun is taking to Ukraine
Pope Leo tackles depression, domestic violence and the ‘cult of self-image’ in dialogue with young people
Pope Leo visits famed Spanish monastery, entrusting his ministry to the Virgin of Montserrat
Pope Leo XIV honors Antoni Gaudí and blesses the Sagrada Familia’s final tower
‘Human dignity has no passport’: Pope Leo visits Gran Canaria
Pope Leo ends visit to Spain with a call to repent
Pope Leo speaks out on SSPX ordinations and U.S.-Iran deal
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Jun 19
45 min

Pope Leo’s encyclical ‘Magnifica Humanitas,’ published May 25, has sparked debates in the worlds of technology and theology while galvanizing online creators opposed to artificial intelligence. Anna Rowlands, a theologian and co-presenter of the text with Pope Leo, joins Colleen Dulle to parse the encyclical’s reception, its contributions to Catholic teaching, and whether workers can use the encyclical to justify religious exemptions to using A.I.
Links:
Pope Leo’s trip to Spain: Background on Sagrada Familia, migrant advocacy and a changing Catholic landscape
More than one million attend Pope Leo’s Mass and procession in the heart of Madrid
Pope Leo meets with 6 clergy abuse survivors in Spain
Pope Leo meets Bad Bunny in Madrid
A.I. is the headline for ‘Magnifica Humanitas,’ but Catholic social teaching is its spine
Why ‘Magnifica Humanitas’ is Pope Leo’s most important action on synodality yet
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Jun 11
40 min

This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell discuss EWTN News President and COO Montserrat “Montse” Alvarado as prefect of the Vatican’s dicastery for communications. They unpack some of the challenges currently facing the dicastery and analyze the appointment in light of the Vatican’s previously strained relationship with EWTN. In the second half of the show, Gerry gives a preview of Pope Leo’s trip to Spain next week.
0:00 Intro
0:48 The dicastery for communications’ challenges
3:32 Montse Alvarado’s appointment and experience
6:38 First lay woman to head a Vatican dicastery
11:08 Significance of an American as head of communications
13:49 Alvarado steered EWTN away from conflict with Francis
17:19 Pope Leo’s vision for communications
21:38 Pope Leo to address Spanish parliament in Madrid
24:29 Pope Leo’s visit to the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona
26:20 Pope Leo to highlight migration in Canary Islands
28:04 Other possible events for pope’s Spain trip
31:34 Outro and credits
Links:
Pope Leo appoints president of EWTN News as head of Vatican communications
Pope Francis responds to attacks from EWTN, other church critics: ‘They are the work of the devil.’
Explainer: The story behind Pope Francis’ beef with EWTN
Pope Leo’s trip to Spain: Background on Sagrada Familia, migrant advocacy and a changing Catholic landscape
Bad Bunny wants to meet Pope Leo XIV. In Madrid, a crossover event is in the works.
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Jun 5
34 min

This week on a special “Inside the Vatican” roundtable, a discussion of “Magnifica Humanitas,” Pope Leo’s groundbreaking first encyclical on protecting the human person in the age of artificial intelligence. Host Colleen Dulle sits down with her co-host and senior Vatican correspondent, Gerard O’Connell, as well as America’s president and editor in chief, Sam Sawyer, S.J.
They discuss the document’s key takeaways, how it is being received in Silicon Valley, Pope Leo’s challenge for every Catholic in the A.I. age and much more.
Links:
Read “Magnifica Humanitas”
Pope Leo’s first encyclical tackles A.I., power and human dignity
Pope Leo XIV makes historic apology for the Catholic Church’s role in legitimizing slavery
Why Pope Leo’s new encyclical quotes Gandalf: Literary images of hope and faith in ‘Magnifica Humanitas’
A capitalist (priest) reads ‘Magnifica Humanitas’
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May 28
40 min
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