In this week's episode, I sit down with educator, author, and equity leader Shane Safir and and street data practitioner Marlo Bagsik to explore how their bestselling book, "Pedagogies of Voice: Street Data and the Path to Student Agency", can radically transform our classrooms and schools. Drawing from their groundbreaking work, Shane and Marlo unpack what it truly means to center student voice not as a buzzword or performative gesture, but as a driving force for liberation, agency, and deeper learning. We discuss the role of radical listening, dismantling traditional power structures, and navigating how discomfort and vulnerability can become catalysts for educator growth.
BIO: Shane Safir has worked at every level of the education system, from the classroom to the boardroom, for 25 years. In 2003, after teaching in San Francisco and Oakland and organizing in the community to launch a new school, Safir became the founding co-principal of June Jordan School for Equity (JJSE), an innovative national model identified by leading scholar Linda Darling-Hammond as "supporting the success of low-income students of color.” Since 2008, Safir has provided equity-centered leadership coaching, strategic planning, and professional development for schools, districts, and organizations across the U.S., Canada, and beyond. She facilitates learning on listening leadership, becoming a warm demander for equity, centering student voice, and the Street Data model for school transformation. She is the author of The Listening Leader: Creating the Conditions for Equitable School Transformation (Jossey-Bass: 2017) and the bestselling Street Data: A Next-Generation Model for Equity, Pedagogy, and School Transformation (Corwin, 2021), coauthored with Dr. Jamila Dugan.Since 2013, Marlo Bagsik has dedicated his career to advancing equity and social justice in education, with a focus on ensuring the highest quality education for historically oppressed groups. His work, rooted in English Language Arts, extends to Restorative Justice, Trauma-Informed Care, Multi-Tiered Systems of Support (MTSS), and adult learning. With degrees from UC Berkeley and USC, Marlo has been a leader in transforming schools into antiracist, inclusive environments. Currently, as the District Professional Learning Coordinator in the SF Bay Area, Marlo continues to champion systemic change that honors the dignity and humanity of every student and educator. He’s a forever educator, facilitator, equity strategist, author and speaker.
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