In this month’s episode, Bryan talks to Dr. Solis Norton about the complexities of energy and how we measure its use, in the context of a world shifting from fossil fuel dependency to embracing alternative forms of energy.

James Parsons - When value-add doesn’t add up.

Kia ora, you’ve joined the 'Ideas that Grow’ podcast - brought to you by Rural Leaders.In this series we’ll be drawing on the insights from innovative rural leaders, to help plant ideas that grow, so our regions can flourish.Ideas That Grow is presented in association with Farmer's Weekly. All guests are arranged by Rural Leaders, whose mission is to grow world class leaders through the Nuffield NZ Farming Scholarship and Kellogg Rural Leadership programme.