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In this 4 part series playlist I will share with you 4 different types of video content for your church and your social media and how to start creating content with your students, teenagers, youth group and church attenders. //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/117 ====================================== 📓SHOWNOTES //Social Challenge 4 Part Playlist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B6Qeaa_hPA&list=PLngXlSr64YaKLwZqOkQe7NzOqSVR0-P1s //Custom Coaching https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching 💡100 Topics Ideas & Templates💡 https://share.hsforms.com/1JOHqd4XOTbC5ZgfXB85BCwnumis //Giphy https://giphy.com/ //Studio Tour & Gear Links https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVT1xvh9-5k&t=557s 👉 STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz 🆓 FREEBIES 🆓 Level up your youth ministry game with these freebies! 🔗 https://linktr.ee/clasonnick 🛠️TOOLS Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products VIDIQ https://vidiq.com/hybrid BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit 🕰️TIMECODES 00:00 Easy Social Media for Churches #3 01:41 How to Play 05:59 How to Add more Volunteers 07:10 1C 09:11 2C 10:45 3C 13:39 Easy Social Media Idea #4 TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:02:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Easy social media idea for 00:00:02:17 - 00:00:06:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry churches and youth ministries. Part three. In 00:00:06:11 - 00:00:15:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry this video, I'm going to share with you one of, if not the easiest way to start creating custom social media content for you and your 00:00:15:06 - 00:00:23:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry church, in your youth ministry, with you, with your leaders, with your students. This is a continuation of the video playlist which is linked right 00:00:23:01 - 00:00:23:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry here. 00:00:23:10 - 00:00:27:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry This is part three out of four of what I do in my four 00:00:27:20 - 00:00:31:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry part social media strategy. For me and my churches. 00:00:31:08 - 00:00:37:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know, I've been in youth ministry for 14 years, and this is easily the best 00:00:37:02 - 00:00:55:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry strategy and the one that we have seen the most traction with not only creating good custom social media content for our church and our student ministry, but also with adding people to our social media team so that I have less on my plate as a youth pastor to do, and there's more ministry being passed off and handed off to our students. 00:00:55:27 - 00:01:17:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I'm also going to share with you in this video my three part proven three C formula for adding student volunteers to our social media team. And as always, if you're here on YouTube, don't forget that there are chapters included at the bottom of this video so that you can go ahead and skip around. But my social challenge idea number three is called man on the Street. 00:01:17:21 - 00:01:41:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now you don't have to call it man on the street, but essentially you've seen these style videos. It's interview style videos where you have someone walking around with a microphone and they're interviewing someone and asking them any sort of question and the comedy in it, or the interesting part in it is really just in the person's answers and or in the interaction or in the banter that may or may or may not go on between the two people. 00:01:41:11 - 00:01:46:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry One of the wins that we've seen, how we do it in our student ministry, is we create 4 00:01:46:03 - 00:01:58:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry to 5 questions for any given night, in any given like season. So for example, a couple months back it was back to school. So we did a bunch of back to school sort of themed questions like, what's the worst cafeteria food you've ever had? 00:01:58:26 - 00:02:06:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What's the worst lunch food you've ever eaten? What's the what's your like number one thing on your back to school shopping list? And we ask 00:02:06:18 - 00:02:11:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry all five questions to like as many people in that night as we can three, four, 00:02:11:22 - 00:02:17:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry five, six, seven interviews. And then what you do is you just take one of those questions and you spice up all the answers. 00:02:17:27 - 00:02:33:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You may include them all. You may choose to leave some out if they're not as interesting or as good. And then you can also create like, just some interesting things in the edit. The power I believe on this is the power is done in the edit. And I have 00:02:33:07 - 00:02:37:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry found that this video in particular is one that students really enjoy editing. 00:02:37:20 - 00:02:53:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now it is a little bit more complicated because, if you're doing it in something like Adobe Premiere Pro, you may just end up with a lot of different layers. And if you're not a skilled editor or if you don't have experience in editing something like this, you may just get turned around. So this one is tougher to hand off to volunteers. 00:02:53:22 - 00:03:04:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Which is why in the last video, my seven questions video, is where I want to encourage students to start that one seems like, easy first kind of starting spot, but this one students can really let their creativity 00:03:04:24 - 00:03:15:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry run wild. And so what we do is we just do like five different questions seasonally based. And so as this video drops mid-October, you might do some Halloween, you might do some Thanksgiving videos. 00:03:15:22 - 00:03:16:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so you might 00:03:16:21 - 00:03:39:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry do like what are what is the best Halloween candy? What is the worst Halloween? Cat candy or, like, thing you've ever gotten in your bucket as you've gone trick or treating? What is your, least favorite Thanksgiving food? You get to the Thanksgiving table and you see it on the table and you're like, oh man, I can't believe that that is being served right now. 00:03:39:04 - 00:03:46:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What are you going to be asking for for Christmas? And then what is the worst road trip you've ever taken around Christmas or 00:03:46:24 - 00:03:55:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry something like that? Right. There's five questions you ask all five of those, and then you ask as many people as you can. You can do this with the gear list link 00:03:55:17 - 00:03:57:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry down below in the template. 00:03:57:22 - 00:03:58:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's the one that's 00:03:58:16 - 00:04:13:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry been included in all of these videos. It's got my Photoshop template for the last two videos. It's got gear recommendations, it's got topic recommendations. And you can take those topics and you can use them for seven questions. You can take them and use them for drafts, or you can take them and curate and curtail them to be working for you. 00:04:13:23 - 00:04:35:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And this man on the street style video. Now, go ahead and give me a like if this video so far has provided value and go ahead and give me a subscribe if this is something that you might think that you might start implementing in your student ministry. But like I said, the power is in the edit. So the more like gifts, B-roll or sound effects that you can create as people are giving answers, you can zoom 00:04:35:02 - 00:04:37:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry in, you can zoom out, you can do like, 00:04:37:12 - 00:04:39:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry like one of my favorite resources. 00:04:39:25 - 00:05:01:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I'll link it down below in the description is Giphy g I p h y.com and we can search GIFs there. And I've just sent students there and they will find GIFs, to kind of add on screen as people are giving answers and sometimes so much so that there's like so many GIFs on the screen that we don't even see the people, like answering the questions. 00:05:01:10 - 00:05:17:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But this is, again, this is a great way for students to kind of let their creativity run wild. Now, here's the other thing that man on the street does. So if you're watching our last two videos, we talked about drafts and we talked about seven questions. Those are stationary videos. Those often they take place for us in our studio. 00:05:17:28 - 00:05:38:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If you haven't seen our studio tour, go ahead, check out the link down below for that. But those happen in our studio. Those happen in a different section of the building. The good news about men on the street style videos is it forces us to get out of our studio, and it forces us to go be on the streets, go be all throughout the different spaces of our youth ministry. 00:05:38:19 - 00:06:06:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So we have an outdoor sports basketball court, so they may be out there. We have an indoor rec room. They may be in there. We have a cafe, they may be in there in the lobby or whatever. And so, they're much more visible. And here's the good news about the visibility once they're visible and once they're doing it, we start to see a, a drastic uptick in people, and their interest level in joining our social media team. 00:06:06:08 - 00:06:27:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're like, hey, can I do this? Can I help, can I join? And so one of the markers, one of the values in, for us and for our student ministry, you know, the apostle Paul says, you shouldn't be a youth pastor. You shouldn't be the only one doing ministry. You should be handing the work of ministry off to equip the saints for works and acts of service. 00:06:27:26 - 00:06:28:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so 00:06:28:06 - 00:06:47:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry that's our goal, not only just with the dots, but also with students as well. And so that needs to be our goal. That needs to be what we are aiming to do. And so, as we are growing and building these teams, less and less falls on your plate. You have to create the structure and the scaffolding, and you have to keep that train kind of moving down the tracks. 00:06:47:22 - 00:06:49:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But ultimately you can hand 00:06:49:11 - 00:07:07:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry some of these things off. And this area in particular, a student ministry is something that students actually are interested in doing. No shade, no offense to get services and holding doors open and greeting people, but students love the opportunity. Or at least in general, students love the opportunity to get on camera, be on camera, or run the camera. 00:07:07:29 - 00:07:33:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So with all that being said, here is my proven three C strategy for building a good student volunteer team. The first C is calendar. Actually calendar it out. And what I mean by that, I just use an Excel template and I, you know, have like week one, week two, week three, week four. Now most students get turned around by what any of that means. 00:07:33:14 - 00:07:48:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What is week one was week two, you know. So if you have typically any given like let's say your youth night is Wednesday night, any given month you have four Wednesdays in the month, but occasionally you'll have a fifth. And the fifth is what throws everybody off. Because 00:07:48:05 - 00:07:52:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry if you schedule people once a month, they think they serve every four. 00:07:52:09 - 00:08:12:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if there's a fifth actually is every five, or if they serve every other week, then they may serve every other week. But you throw a fifth in there. And now that messes up when they're landing. And so for clarity, I like to just call it, if you're doing, you know, every other, first and third, second and fourth. 00:08:12:13 - 00:08:26:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All right. And then you got figure out where your fifths are. So I like to do first, third and fifth. Okay. And I'll just explain to them, hey, if you're a fifth that means you'll do a first, a third, a fifth that'll feel like every other. But then when it rolls back around to the first, you're actually going to do two weeks in a row. 00:08:26:22 - 00:08:42:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Just brace for that. Just understand that, okay. And then like okay, they get it in theory. All right. I've even literally pulled up my Google calendar and I've showed them like this when it says August 7th. That's week one when it says August 14th, that's week two and it says 21st. That's week three, which is 28. That's week four. 00:08:42:03 - 00:09:00:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then we we go to September. And I'm like, now you try it in September. Which one are the weeks you're serving if you're on week one and three for example. And like once they get that understanding it makes sense. Also, I can recommend some sort of scheduling feature, you know, for my tech team, I use planning center services for the rest of our team. 00:09:00:14 - 00:09:30:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We use Church Community Builder, which is our church's database. Whatever you use, whatever you have, if you can send some sort of invitation for them to serve, that would be great. But that leads me to my second see in my building a strong volunteer team is contact. How are you going to contact them? See, here's what happens. A lot of times in churches is especially when serving with students, we want students to serve even in our greater teams on our church, like our tech team or worship team or our greeting team. 00:09:30:23 - 00:09:54:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But we treat them once again, those teams like adults, and we should and we should start working them towards that. However, in most cases when you're scheduling adults, you're scheduling them through email. Most students do. They have an email. It's not a regular discipline of them checking it very often, if at all. And so in Planning Center and it also church community builder, both of them have integration for text messages. 00:09:54:05 - 00:10:11:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And most students are receiving text messages at this point. And then if students are not, we have to get to their parents. Right? And we say, okay, well, you have a phone, so I'm going to send this to your parents and you're going to get notified via your parents mobile. Whatever. Now, I handle that on an individual basis with every single student. 00:10:11:25 - 00:10:31:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It's much more than just fill out this form, I'll put you on and I'll show you like I have that conversation. Let them know your first and third, and then I'll. I get from them what I need in order to contact them effectively and in my mind to contact every student effectively, I need to text them. And in both cases, both planning center and church community builder. 00:10:31:03 - 00:10:49:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I need to know their cell phone carrier. It's a weird question. Most students know the answer to it. It's like, is it AT&T? Is it Verizon? Is it T-Mobile? Once I put that in, I'm able to schedule them and they're able to get text message notifications for when they're scheduled. And then the last piece of it, the third key is conflicts. 00:10:49:25 - 00:11:07:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What do you do when you can't come to church. Set the expectation now. So I say your schedule first and third I'm going to text you. You're going to get a notification. Either accept it or decline it. Coach them up, train them how you want them to do that, and then say, if you can't make it, I need you to find yourself a sub. 00:11:07:04 - 00:11:28:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's how I prefer to do it. You don't have to do it. That way. If you want them to tell you about conflicts and decline and you go find their sub, that's fine. It just adds work back straight to your play as opposed to them finding a sub on their own and then letting you know, hey, I'm not going to be there and I got so-and-so to fill in for me, then all your bases are covered. 00:11:28:26 - 00:11:42:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so when you're building a social media team, you kind of have two prongs to it. You have your capturing or your filming of it, and then you also have your editing of it. And so you can truly have like an infinite number of volunteers 00:11:42:19 - 00:11:47:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry we've found for like, seven questions, just our videos. It's good to have a camera operator. 00:11:47:22 - 00:12:12:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If we're doing separate microphones, it's good to have a microphone operator. We've also found it's good to have like a director, someone who's telling the people on, the talent, so to speak, what they're doing. We've even found it's good to have, TV, off, off camera that the people. So if I'm on camera playing the game, there's a TV right over there, and it's keeping track of the number of questions is even got the scripts like on a slide for them. 00:12:12:08 - 00:12:28:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So it's good to have a person running that. And then the last, like I said, we're in a studio. And so there are people in the hallway kind of waiting. It's good to have a host, a person out in the hallway, a person making sure that they're quiet so that when you're filming, you're not getting like the audio bleed over or whatever. 00:12:28:11 - 00:12:46:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you can have up to five people on that week. All right. And then if you have five people that week and say five people on the week that you do drafts and you might not need as many when you're doing man on the Street or the other video that we're going to look at in my fourth and final installment of, church social media that is done easy for you. 00:12:46:21 - 00:13:05:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But you can theoretically see how you can get to ten, 12, 15 different people. And then you add editors on top of that. When are they coming into the office? Do they have the gear at home? Can they edit it on something like cap cut on their app, on their phone, and then deliver that content back to you so that you can post it? 00:13:05:18 - 00:13:21:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or can you even have them just in charge of the posting calendar and the posting schedule, and you can just hand those things off to it. So again, the point is the sky's the limit if you only have 2 or 3 students who are on your team, you just have them work every week, right? Or you do these every other week and that's when they serve. 00:13:21:14 - 00:13:38:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then the athletes that you don't have anything for social media. But as you're building your team, you need to work through that three see framework, the calendar. How are you going to communicate it? Where are you going to print it? Where are they going to see it? How are you going to handle first, third, fifth Sundays? How are you going to contact them and how are you going to handle conflicts? 00:13:38:11 - 00:13:58:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now moving on to our fourth and final video in this playlist. In this strategy, we are going to link it right here on screen. So you can go ahead and take a look at that fourth and final easy social media idea for churches and for youth ministries. Don't forget, we had the Hybrid Ministry show are trying to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. 00:13:58:12 - 00:14:02:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So as always, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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In this 4 part series playlist I will share with you 4 different types of video content for your church and your social media and how to start creating content with your students, teenagers, youth group and church attenders. //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/117 ====================================== 📓SHOWNOTES //Social Challenge 4 Part Playlist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B6Qeaa_hPA&list=PLngXlSr64YaKLwZqOkQe7NzOqSVR0-P1s //Custom Coaching https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/coaching 💡100 Topics Ideas & Templates💡 https://share.hsforms.com/1JOHqd4XOTbC5ZgfXB85BCwnumis //Studio Tour & Gear Links https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVT1xvh9-5k&t=557s //Free Stock Photography https://unsplash.com/ https://www.pexels.com/ 👉 STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz 🆓 FREEBIES 🆓 Level up your youth ministry game with these freebies! 🔗 https://linktr.ee/clasonnick 🛠️TOOLS Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products VIDIQ https://vidiq.com/hybrid BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit 🕰️TIMECODES 00:00 Easy Social Idea #2 02:14 Easy for Viewers to Play 03:43 How I use the Seven Questions Photoshop Template 10:56 How I use the Drafts Photoshop Template TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:01:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Easy social 00:00:01:28 - 00:00:06:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry media ideas for churches and youth ministries. Idea number two, 00:00:06:10 - 00:00:14:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry which is a continuation of the video playlist, is linked right here at the top of the screen. I'm going to show you and tell you how I get 00:00:14:02 - 00:00:23:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry more done by doing less. You know, we explored, in the last video, the first part of my four part church social challenge framework. 00:00:23:16 - 00:00:31:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And in this video, I am going to tell you exactly how we capture these videos with the results that you see here on screen, if you're watching on YouTube. 00:00:31:29 - 00:00:42:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then I'm also going to show you how I set up the Photoshop template for this game type along with the game type included in the last video, and it's going to be here all shown on screen. 00:00:42:18 - 00:01:00:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So if you're listening, you may want to hop over to the YouTube channel for this one. And as always, over here on YouTube, there are chapters included at the bottom of this video so that you can skip around to the parts that are most relevant to you. But social challenge idea number two, that we do in our church and in our student ministry is a game called 00:01:00:24 - 00:01:02:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry name of the game is seven questions. 00:01:02:20 - 00:01:23:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now here's the deal about seven questions. Seven questions is essentially a guessing game. So you have two contestants and they sit across from each other or next to each other on screen. And one contestant has something in their brain. Think honestly. Think like 20 questions. But we just reduced it down to seven. So contestant number one, they're going to have something in their brain. 00:01:23:18 - 00:01:25:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let's just pretend the thing in their brain 00:01:25:07 - 00:01:59:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry is, a green snowflake mug, as you see here on screen that I'm drinking my coffee out of this morning. And so they're going to say, I am thinking of a thing. And so then the next person has seven questions to try and guess what thing they are guessing. And so they'll ask them yes or no based questions as they ask them either a checkmark for yes answers will show up on the screen, or a x for wrong answers was a checkmark for yes answers and an X for no answers will show up on the screen because it's just going to be keeping track one, 2345, 00:01:59:22 - 00:02:14:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry six, seven on screen. Of how many questions have been asked by the seventh question, they need to submit their guess. And then at the very end of the video, the person will say, let us know down below in the comments how you did. Now, here's one of the reasons that I love 00:02:15:11 - 00:02:21:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry this game. If I'm thinking about hybrid, and if I'm thinking about, melding my in-person along with my digital together. 00:02:21:27 - 00:02:37:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I like this game because the way that we open it up and here's the script for it. Feel free to copy it. It goes like this. The name of the game is seven questions. If you want to play along, go ahead and close your eyes. The answer is going to be right here on screen. Category is thing. Here we go. 00:02:37:29 - 00:02:38:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then the 00:02:38:09 - 00:02:42:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry other person will start asking them yes or no questions. And so in theory, if someone's scrolling through 00:02:42:24 - 00:02:49:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry social media and they're encouraged to play along, or at least given the option to play along in their set, and they're being told to close 00:02:49:10 - 00:02:56:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry their eyes. If they close their eyes, the, green mug will pop up on the screen with the eyes closed, and so you won't actually see it. 00:02:56:20 - 00:03:08:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'll add some sort of sound effect to let it know that it's gone, and then they can open their eyes again, and they can try and guess the item along with the other person on the in the game in real life, who is, trying to guess it 00:03:08:17 - 00:03:17:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry now, just like the draft style, videos that we do, these are a fantastic way to get students mingling together to invite them, to be a part 00:03:17:06 - 00:03:18:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of our social media. 00:03:18:15 - 00:03:19:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry All kinds of different 00:03:19:09 - 00:03:25:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry setups and gear recommendations are also included in the templated link that was in the last episode. It's also going to be included. Same 00:03:25:07 - 00:03:33:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry link in this episode. And so, viewers can, play along. The people in the room get to play along. People in the studio that we have are 00:03:33:28 - 00:03:40:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry getting a chance to kind of like, run the room and run audio and run video and edit all of these things. 00:03:40:10 - 00:03:43:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But what I want to do is I want to show you how I have 00:03:43:03 - 00:04:01:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry created a template. And so if you are watching, here on YouTube, you'll get an opportunity to see I'm going to be, sharing my screen and what you're going to be seeing, right here in just a couple seconds. Is my, screen with the Photoshop template. 00:04:01:07 - 00:04:03:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so right here, this is 00:04:03:07 - 00:04:21:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry the template that I use. And so the very first thing here in Photoshop is I have this layer right here. And it's just like a TikTok template layer. And so I use that for this as well as if you look right here on screen, this is our draft template. I just have that on screen so that I know where the elements for social media are. 00:04:21:28 - 00:04:41:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. I know that TikTok, Instagram, YouTube shorts, their menu options are right aligned. Right? So the follow button, the like button, the comment and all the stuff on the right side of the screen. So I try to stay on the left side of the screen. And I also know down here at the bottom is where the text or the captions or any of the other comments will kind of pop up along with the menu. 00:04:41:08 - 00:05:11:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So I try to kind of stay away from there. I just downloaded this this template off of Google. If you download this template for me, it'll be included right here in this Photoshop file as the, bottommost layer. I just have it title as layer one because I haven't changed it yet. But you, if you're not going to use this template that I have, or if you don't have Photoshop, you can just grab something off of Google to kind of put that in at the base of whatever editor you're using something on, and maybe Canva or something and something even on your phone. 00:05:11:03 - 00:05:29:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Or if you are using your phone, you may not be able to import a layer like this, but if you are using your phone, just know to kind of stay away from the the left and the bottom right. Those are sort of like the danger zones, so to speak, of, of of social media, of Instagram Reels, of TikTok and all that type of stuff. 00:05:29:20 - 00:05:50:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So anyway, so this is what my template right here looks like. Like I said, it's for the game seven questions. And so, I'll have student A and student B and let me just give you a little hack. If you're recording these in bulk, which we typically do, I make the student say their name. And then I also make the student spell it because when the student comes back on, I do want their name to be on screen. 00:05:50:10 - 00:06:05:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry First name? Only. And when I do that, I want their name to be on screen and I want it to be spelled correctly. And so if I don't know any of their names, or if I didn't know exactly how to spell it, having them spell it helps me make sure that I get their name exactly right on the template. 00:06:05:19 - 00:06:40:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's just a little hack for running the room. But I cut all that out. I don't include, like, my name is Nick. Nick, I take that part, I might say my name is Nick. Cut. And Nick, and then the next person, my name is Caleb. Caleb cut out the Caleb and then say name game seven questions or I may just cut all the name stuff out together and jump right there to where it says the name of the game is Seven questions, because my name and his name is going to be on the screen together and therefore we don't have to, you know, worry about getting that across the in kind of name tag 00:06:40:19 - 00:07:00:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry thing right here matters. Now you'll notice that they're behind some of these other layers. And that's okay because in Photoshop, what we're going to do when we jump over here into premiere, we get to adjust where they are and what like layer they're at. So in this particular one, you'll notice that the students names are beneath the layers. 00:07:00:09 - 00:07:21:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But all all I need to do if I want to, raise those up is I need to just grab these layers and I'm going to give myself just a little bit more, visual space on this. I can just elevate those all the way to the top. And so now those are on the top. Everything in Photoshop, everything in Adobe is kind of layers, dependent and layers based. 00:07:21:14 - 00:07:38:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And now as I go through, they are on top. I also just so you know, because they are sort of in the way I only keep them for the first little bit, and then once they start asking questions, I actually cut them. And so here's me cutting the names out of the, the thing that I'm editing. And so name name name name name. 00:07:38:27 - 00:08:01:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then they're gone. So anyway, all that to be said, I have just this template, these, 123456, seven numbers. If you're watching here on screen, off to the left side, out of the way of any, text or icons on screen. And then I also have, X's and I have them labeled over here in my panel. 00:08:01:12 - 00:08:22:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. X1, x2, x3 x4 x5 x6 x7. But right beneath them. Watch if I hide this layer just with the eyeball tool. Beneath it is a check mark tool. And so depending on what their answer is, I will then pull over either an X or a check when they ask the question. So here in the game they're asking a question. 00:08:22:14 - 00:08:49:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And all these are right ones. And so when they ask it, we just pull in, check one right here. From, from this, from this Photoshop layer, file over here on the left hand side. And so in order to get that in there, you finish editing your thing. So in this particular instance, in the seven questions, the thing that they're thinking of was a dog. 00:08:49:02 - 00:09:07:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so I put a picture of a dog here on screen. And you just swap that out for whatever, the item is in the person's brain. And so then I save this file, save as, and, I would go in here to, where my file is stored on my hard drive. So in this particular case, this is what you would see in your download. 00:09:07:21 - 00:09:27:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Look, something like that. Go over here into Adobe Premiere Pro, and I am going to drag this item into my, project bin over here. When I do, it gives me an import layer option in Adobe Premiere Pro. And if I hit this little drop down menu, I can do merge all layers, and that will just bring the whole thing in as an image all together. 00:09:27:13 - 00:09:49:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Merged layers, individual layers or sequence. You're going to want to hit individual layers, and it's going to break every single thing up into an individual layer. So now when I open it up, you'll see if I just preview these, here's my numbers, here's my checks. All the way down through here is layer one. There's my TikTok layer. I don't need that but just going to be in there. 00:09:49:17 - 00:10:07:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Questions seven. So I'm using that to kind of I'm going to animate those layers in. So right here you'll see they come in right here and we do some animations on those as they like fly in or flicker in paired with like a sound effect. Here's their, their names. And those are going to be in alphabetical order. 00:10:07:08 - 00:10:28:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So n would be for Nick would be in alphabetical order here. In this in this Adobe Premiere Pro thing, it would be wherever N would go in the alphabetical list. And then here's all my X's and again it's alphabetical order. And so X1X2X2X4X5X7 depending on if they get it right or wrong. You can add sound effects down here. 00:10:28:18 - 00:10:46:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can get them from three three places stuff like that. You can also, you want to keep it, like I said, under a minute. So I tend to cut out any of the thinking or if the thinking is funny in any way, I might put a sound effect or zoom in on their face, or put some sort of, like, funny thing on screen to kind of keep the video moving. 00:10:46:04 - 00:11:06:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But that's all you got to do, right? So if you are editing with, Adobe products, this is how simple it is. And you can just take and borrow this template and use it to edit your videos. Now, in the last video we talked about drafts, and this is my draft template, which is a little bit more intensive out of the simple in sheer fact, because there are ten things as opposed to only seven things. 00:11:06:23 - 00:11:25:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Same concept. So we're going to save all these things. The only thing that's different is I use circles here. So zoomed in on screen you'll see those. And this is apparently from a breakfast draft and also leftovers of a Bible hero's draft. But this person picked bacon. And so what you'll notice here is that this got this little arrow. 00:11:25:15 - 00:11:43:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry What that is, is that's called a clipping mask. And so what I've done is I just snagged this picture off of Google, or you can do a royalty free site like pexels.com or unsplash.com. Links to those down below in the show notes. But you just simply right click and you can create a clipping mask over this circle that's here. 00:11:43:00 - 00:12:06:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. And so in all of these cases, the circles are already in existence. And so if you go through and I hide these things, this is a numbers with a circle base, underneath all of them. And so I just copy and paste a picture. And so what I do just to kind of show you how it's done, I might do so for, doing coffee products. 00:12:06:24 - 00:12:27:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I might do a coffee mug. Find a coffee mug here. And choose this one. This one seems cool. Copy. And so if I'm replacing out this template, I don't want bacon anymore. I select that layer. It's not selected over here in the layer selection panel. If I delete it, I release and got rid of the clipping mask. 00:12:27:28 - 00:12:44:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And now ellipse one is the one that is highlighted. And so you're going to want to make sure that that happens. Otherwise there's just so many layers that you're going to kind of get lost I'll paste this in here. And now this layer is on top of my ellipse layer as I hit command T to transform and adjust the size. 00:12:44:01 - 00:13:01:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm just going to adjust to size right over top of the circles here. Zoom back in so I can get it where I want it to be. There it is. And and then, I'm going to accept the changes and now it's right here, but it's not in its clipped mask. So I'm going to right click on that. 00:13:01:05 - 00:13:20:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I'm going to click Create Clipping Mask. And I can then still adjust what is visible there on screen by hitting command and adjusting the size ever so slightly. And then one thing that you're going to want to do is label this really well. So this is the layer. Layer two is the layer that you're going to bring in on top of it over in premiere. 00:13:20:09 - 00:13:34:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So let's say I'm the first person. So I just label it in for Nick. And then one and so then that way I know that it's n one and that's my mug option. And as long as it stays in this template, when you bring it over in premiere, it's going to be exactly where you want it to stay. 00:13:35:05 - 00:13:57:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, if I wanted to change names, that's the beautiful thing about Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Premiere Pro is that, if I, have brought this over here, let's say back to our seven questions. If I brought these in with names, but I got the names wrong. All I got to do is go back here into my student A, student B, all I got to do is just change this. 00:13:57:17 - 00:14:20:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry If I wanted to change this name to Caleb and then click File Save As and drop it here, replace. Now back over here and promote Premiere Pro. That name is going to update here in just a second. It may take a minute, but it'll update over to Caleb. And so that's something I think that's pretty cool. 00:14:20:27 - 00:14:41:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You know what? This is actually from an old this is from, a different layer. So let me so this student B was updated to Caleb. So let me pull that in. Look now it says Caleb. So or now this will actually work if you're watching, if I change it back to student B and then I click File Save as replacing that sucker. 00:14:42:01 - 00:15:06:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now over here. Watch. There went you might you might not have seen it because it happens so fast. That's the beautiful thing about Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Photoshop. So as I quit sharing my screen here, I just very simply want to say to all of you that these right here, especially seven questions, are really easy one, to get students who have absolutely no editing skills to get going on editing. 00:15:06:02 - 00:15:26:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They're quick. They're they're easy to edit because they're under a minute. Usually. And so I can hand one of these over to them, and I can show them how to drag and drop the layers and make sure that they're in the right spot, add some sound effects. And off we go to the races. Now moving on. We are in our four part, my Church's Social Challenge videos. 00:15:26:17 - 00:15:46:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry These are how I get more things done with students. We're going to move on to the third video type in our strategy. And that video is linked right here on screen. So go ahead and click that video and we'll see you over there. Don't forget that we are making digital discipleship easy possible. And accessible. So as always don't forget to stay hybrid.

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I am your host, Nick place, and we are looking to make digital discipleship easy, possible and accessible. My strategy for social media in 2024, 00:00:18:14 - 00:00:24:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and it's looking like beyond if you didn't know this. Short form vertical based videos or reels? 00:00:24:13 - 00:00:32:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry TikToks YouTube shorts account for 90% of the internet's traffic, which is just a wildly high 00:00:32:05 - 00:00:51:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry statistic. And so people are getting on the internet to consume these styles of videos. And so we as churches, as communicators, as people who want to have an impact in our world, we need to be on these platforms. And so if you do want to be on social media, I recommend taking that strategic approach, posting those types of videos. 00:00:51:09 - 00:00:59:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I also recommend not just posting only spiritual content. So one of the funnest things to do is post content that is just fun, 00:00:59:24 - 00:01:04:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry interesting, funny, like a game of some sort, and then hook people kind 00:01:04:08 - 00:01:08:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of with that sort of piece of content and then hopefully drive them deeper down your funnel, 00:01:08:27 - 00:01:16:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry which you will eventually get them to more spiritual content and, and hopefully you'll get them to a long form version of your spiritual content, which from there you can hopefully, 00:01:16:28 - 00:01:21:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry just like you would live in the room, just like you would live with the sermon. 00:01:21:12 - 00:01:30:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Prompt them to take some sort of meaningful next step closer to Jesus. My new favorite phenomenon for churches and for youth ministries is to create content 00:01:30:06 - 00:01:32:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry with my students, not just content 00:01:32:29 - 00:01:34:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry for my students. 00:01:34:21 - 00:01:52:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Generation Z and subsequently Generation Alpha are looking for the personal touch. They've they've grown up under the rise of customization generation. Alpha is going to be growing up under the rise of personalization with algorithms and AI and things that can make life just very tailored to them. 00:01:52:19 - 00:01:55:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so they don't want to necessarily get on their social media and see a 00:01:55:26 - 00:02:00:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry bunch of stuff that I have done for them. They would rather get on social media and see a bunch of stuff 00:02:00:28 - 00:02:04:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry that they have had an opportunity to participate in. 00:02:04:02 - 00:02:09:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so a couple years ago, my resident Caleb, linked right here is my interview with him. 00:02:09:07 - 00:02:24:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And in it, we actually talked for a little while about this concept called the social challenge. And so where this came birthed out of is in our student ministry, we have a very, very vibrant YouTube channel. It's probably the social media platform that 00:02:24:02 - 00:02:37:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I pour the most gas on. If you want to see our strategy link down below is my completely free e-book strategy guide, detailing and outline every single thing I do from silly posting videos, long form version, pieces of content. 00:02:37:13 - 00:02:43:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It will help you take an adapter and make that possible in your context. But we were talking through a 00:02:43:20 - 00:02:48:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry YouTube channel, which is mostly just teaching videos, and he wanted to include more students 00:02:48:08 - 00:02:56:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry on our longform, teaching videos section of YouTube. You know, YouTube is broken into different like containers. You got you got 00:02:56:02 - 00:02:59:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry posts and you got shorts and you got videos and you got lives. 00:02:59:18 - 00:03:01:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so he's like, I want more students. I 00:03:01:24 - 00:03:18:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry think it'd be good if there were more students on the video portion. And not just us staff, people with teaching videos. And I was like, okay, great. So he invented this thing called the social Challenge. And the social challenge became a huge win for us in our student ministry in multiple arenas. 00:03:18:25 - 00:03:31:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But early on, it would just be him or maybe him, and like another one of our students or him and another one of our interns filming some, some students doing some sort of challenge, just think like any sort of 00:03:31:02 - 00:03:36:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry youth group game. And then they would just capture it on camera. And so that was on a Wednesday night. 00:03:36:14 - 00:03:40:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Our team, we don't work on Fridays. And so he would come into the office 00:03:40:27 - 00:03:53:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry on Thursday and he would edit all day long to try and get that thing ready to go. And then from there, he would get that thing posted and off he would go, putting our students on, on the YouTube channel. Well, 00:03:53:14 - 00:04:01:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry over time, that just became hefty every single week with a Thursday all day edit like that was the only thing he had like really bandwidth for it to do. 00:04:01:17 - 00:04:08:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry On Thursday. And so we let that thing run for about a semester. And then we made an adjustment. And I said, what if we, 00:04:08:00 - 00:04:17:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Because in the meantime, we were filming short form, vertical based video content with our staff, and we would film like once a month, and we would get together and we would do some of these ideas. 00:04:17:00 - 00:04:22:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And one of the ones I'm about to share with you here in just a minute, and we would, we were filming for us 00:04:22:20 - 00:04:35:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and I was like, what if we put students behind that camera? And so that's what we did. And so my favorite, we do in our studio. Mr.. Now we've honed it in where we do four different types of social challenges. 00:04:35:06 - 00:04:44:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so most months are made up of four different weeks and so on week one we'll do this week two do that, week three we'll do that. Link four we'll do that. Or we'll just do 00:04:44:17 - 00:04:49:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry whatever is running low. And so I have every single thing, every single piece of content stored 00:04:49:04 - 00:04:56:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry in a Google Drive. And I can see as I post daily, I can see which of these pieces of content I'm running 00:04:56:01 - 00:05:01:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry out of, and then thus which ones we need to film more of on the next Wednesday night. 00:05:01:02 - 00:05:04:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Some of the other advantages youth pastors that this has had 00:05:04:18 - 00:05:14:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry is this has created a space in our student ministry for students to come and let their voice be heard, and for them to actually get a chance to be on social media themselves. And then 00:05:14:14 - 00:05:18:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry they're actually looking for it later on down the road, like, when are you going to post my video? 00:05:19:02 - 00:05:23:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let me know. And it was funny, last week I actually pulled a kid aside and said, hey, I'm 00:05:23:10 - 00:05:35:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry posting yours tomorrow. And so then he texted me. I didn't send him the link or anything like that, but he texted me. He's like, that was good, you know, typical seventh grade boy. But, he he reached out of his own accord. 00:05:35:08 - 00:05:56:13 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Right. Once he saw his video had been posted online. And so it's had some major wins for us in the room. It's actually made like our in person, a little bit more, intimate, like it's made our students actually get to interact with and know each other a little bit more. And so that's our current adaptation. We just batch record our students any given Wednesday 00:05:56:13 - 00:06:03:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry night, with these different for social media ideas, I'm going to share with you in this video playlist. 00:06:03:20 - 00:06:22:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The first video idea that we do, it's called drafts. Now, you've probably seen or heard these before in if you've ever been on social media, all kinds of different people have done them. And I'm not, you know, claiming to be the the author of this idea, we have no doubt seen, we're taking 00:06:22:25 - 00:06:28:07 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry this, you know, from other people, we've seen it done elsewhere, and we've adapted it to our culture 00:06:28:07 - 00:06:29:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry and to our context. 00:06:29:23 - 00:06:31:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But essentially what it is is you choose, like 00:06:31:27 - 00:06:58:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry any topic, literally any topic in the world that has at least ten or more options. And the reason you need ten or more is because it's it's sort of treated like a, like sports or like a basketball type thing where you draft somebody, to your starting five. And so if you and if you and I were doing this, you might go first in any particular category, let's just say, 00:06:58:12 - 00:07:10:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry let's just say basketball players, you know, for example, by the way, link down below in the description I have shared with you, like over 100 different draft topic ideas 00:07:10:02 - 00:07:10:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry as well as a 00:07:10:25 - 00:07:19:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry gear resource list. So go ahead and click that link and go grab it. You can just have it and then you can take these and kind of copy and paste them and implement them into your church and into 00:07:19:17 - 00:07:27:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry your social media strategy. But if you're going first, maybe you're Michael Jordan guy. So you take Michael Jordan, but then you go to me and it'd be my pick. 00:07:27:15 - 00:07:45:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And the only thing I couldn't take is Michael Jordan. I could take any other basketball player I wanted to. I could take LeBron James. I can also take Bronny James. It doesn't matter. I could take whoever I want. So I'll go LeBron. And then back to you. You might think that the third greatest player of all time is like Magic Johnson. 00:07:45:08 - 00:08:02:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And that's fair. I'll go ahead and give you like thumbs up on that. Come back to me. I'll probably take like Larry Bird or something like that. Back over to you. Let's say you take, maybe you're a big Bulls guy. Maybe you take Scottie Pippen. Great. That's fine. I don't agree with that necessarily. But I appreciate you trying back over to me. 00:08:02:23 - 00:08:18:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I probably go doctor J. Or Wilt Chamberlain maybe. I think, and as I'm doing this, I'm commentating it, right. I'm like, you know, I'm thinking this thing that, and so I'll go ahead. I'll take I'll take, I'll, I'll end up taking wilt. No no no no no no. What am I doing? I'll take Shaq I'll take Shaq back over to you. 00:08:18:17 - 00:08:33:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And you're like, all right, fine, I'll take Kobe. Great. That's great. Back over to me now. I'll take wilt okay. And I'm not now like building a team to play with. And you can set those parameters because I can't have Will and Shaq playing on the same team that both centers. Right. Back over to you. Maybe you're going to take like a modern guy. 00:08:33:09 - 00:08:47:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Maybe you're going to go like Kevin Durant or something like that. And I think that would be fair. Back over to me if I wanted to take a modern guy. Though I don't think he's, top ten of all time, but I do think it's great. Shaq good. So Alexander represent Oklahoma City Thunder. That's my favorite basketball team. 00:08:48:00 - 00:09:11:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then what you do then is you'd say, hey, let us know. Comment down below who you think won okay. Now in that particular case, everyone watching would definitely say that I won. But maybe you got some big, Bulls fans, some some people from Chicago watching your content. Maybe they would say that you won, and they would say that you picked all the goats and Kobe Bryant and Scottie Pippen and all the other people, right? 00:09:11:15 - 00:09:11:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like, 00:09:11:24 - 00:09:18:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry whatever the case might be, but you just literally go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. Another option you can do is you can snake it in 00:09:18:24 - 00:09:27:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry so if you don't know, it's like, first person, second person, second person, first person, first person, second person, second person. That's the concept of a snake draft. 00:09:27:23 - 00:09:28:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I don't 00:09:28:02 - 00:09:44:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I don't do that as much in like a two person draft because, it's just like 12X2X2X2X2, and then it ends with one. I'd rather just kind of do the bounce back, but either way, your choice, your decision, you figure out which you prefer. And then 00:09:44:11 - 00:09:51:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I need to edit that sucker. And so typically when I do it with anyone on my staff, those drafts end up being like, five minutes, 00:09:51:12 - 00:09:54:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry because there's a fair bit of banter. 00:09:54:07 - 00:10:00:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we're sort of like, gassing people for, like, what they said, or slamming them for how bad we thought the choices were. 00:10:00:26 - 00:10:08:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And either way, we're kind of going back and forth, making fun of each other. And so that you have you have some decisions to make 00:10:08:10 - 00:10:18:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry in the editing process, right? You got to get it down for me, I try to get every video under 60s because YouTube shorts is cap is 60s. 00:10:18:06 - 00:10:26:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if I can get it under 60, then that means I can post it on YouTube shorts, TikTok, Instagram Reels and Facebook Reels all four places. 00:10:26:05 - 00:10:39:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, if you don't want to use YouTube shorts though, if you're trying to reach teenagers, can I please implore you to consider using it? 95% of teenagers are on YouTube, and so if you are in youth ministry, you should definitely be using YouTube, and thus you should also 00:10:39:20 - 00:10:41:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry be using YouTube shorts. 00:10:41:10 - 00:10:49:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But if you don't want to use YouTube, then you can make it longer because those other platforms allow for longer, time segments of videos. And you can 00:10:49:26 - 00:10:58:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry edit it directly on your phone. My edits, it look like this. If you're watching here on YouTube. I'll also share with you my Photoshop template in that, 00:10:58:08 - 00:11:07:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry free downloadable document where I am sharing, you know, all the different hundreds of ideas of draft, topics and content that you can use. 00:11:07:28 - 00:11:29:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But, if you don't have Photoshop, you can literally design this, in anything. You can design it on TikTok, in the TikTok editor. You can design it on an app like Cap Cut for the free version or the paid version. You can use it on Instagram Reels. Editor. Like it's literally the sky is the limit on where you can edit it. 00:11:29:03 - 00:11:30:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I like to edit in 00:11:30:08 - 00:11:43:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Adobe Premiere Pro, so I use Adobe Photoshop, and then I import those files into Adobe Premiere Pro and the good news in all of this is that for a while I started doing it. And then, homeschool kids are 00:11:43:09 - 00:11:50:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry the best in our student ministry because they obviously they they don't go to school for as long during the day when they do homeschool. 00:11:51:00 - 00:11:52:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I can have 00:11:52:03 - 00:12:04:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry them come in and they can use, one of our spare computers that has Adobe Premiere Pro loaded on it. And I've been just teaching them how to use Adobe Photoshop, how to use Adobe Premiere Pro. 00:12:04:16 - 00:12:12:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I had a student, I kid you not, who he took all of, one of our other, like, video tape adaptations. 00:12:12:03 - 00:12:13:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry We had like, like 12 00:12:13:29 - 00:12:21:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry of them, and he edited every single one of them, like in one sitting. He he came in. It was like 00:12:21:04 - 00:12:27:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry his maybe fifth time in, And so he had to, like, learn and get up to speed on that fifth time. I mean, he just 00:12:27:27 - 00:12:31:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry crushed them to the point where he was loving editing. 00:12:31:00 - 00:12:36:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then he said to me, hey, can I come in tomorrow? And I was like, bro, you've done them all. 00:12:36:00 - 00:13:00:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And before I was getting students to come in and edit, I was editing them all myself, every single one. And so I was always behind. I never was caught up and he got me completely caught up. And now the other good news in all of this is that in addition to students editing it and getting them posted, I've also had students begin to take ownership and leadership in the room of where we're filming this thing. 00:13:00:00 - 00:13:17:20 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So we've actually built a full studio. You can see link down below, our studio tour and all the gear that we use, but sometimes we just use like a camera on the back of a cell phone and like external microphones. Other times we use like full podcast studio type microphones and run that into like a focus right camera. 00:13:17:22 - 00:13:38:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we filmed it off our Sony ZV ten. Again, all of that is linked in that, studio tour episode. If you want to look at any of that purchase, any of that. And then if you do have your phone, you can just edit it directly off your phone. If you do it off of a camera, you got to take out the SD card and then download it and then go edit it in some sort of software on your computer. 00:13:38:06 - 00:14:02:08 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Again, either one of those strategies is fine. You decide what you want, you can do a really heavy edit, or you can do a really minimal edit like either of those. Either of those strategies works, and you can kind of do whatever works best for you and your, your time frame. Right. But once those students, edit those, I also have students capturing them or I have them running the room. 00:14:02:08 - 00:14:23:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I have them, getting students in place. I have them literally running, like, action and, like, clapping their hands. And, it was actually really helpful because one week when we were filming a bunch of, these draft style videos, the camera audio cut out, but I got all the mic audio, but I was like, how am I going to sync up empty words? 00:14:23:08 - 00:14:49:17 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry To real audio? And because of the claps, I was able to find the clap on the camera, link up that spike, and then they were able to be to be linked. And so, I at this point in time, like this, this strategy, this four part video strategy, students are running it on Wednesday nights capturing the videos, and then students are editing it and all I'm doing is overseeing it and posting it. 00:14:49:17 - 00:14:51:05 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so my guess would be, if you're in 00:14:51:05 - 00:15:15:02 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry youth ministry and you want to create content with your students, that this is what you're looking for because you may not feel equipped, you may not feel like you have, what it takes or even the knowledge behind social media in your students. They do, they do. And if you're willing to build the infrastructure enough to then be able to hand that over to them, I think that's a fantastic model and it takes more work off of your 00:15:15:02 - 00:15:16:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry plate. 00:15:16:04 - 00:15:38:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if you're interested in exploring, how to do that or even just looking for maybe like some some next steps, I offer a coaching link down below. Reach out about that is really affordable, is really cheap, and I would love to help you get that up and running. Now on to easy social media video idea number two. 00:15:38:21 - 00:15:57:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm glad that you asked because I'm sure you were looking for it. It's actually going to be linked here on screen in the very next video, which I have here on my channel. So go ahead and tap that. Go check that one out. And without any further ado, we will see you over there because we are making digital discipleship easy and possible and accessible. 00:15:57:27 - 00:16:02:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so as always, don't ever forget to stay hybrid.

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We're going to 00:00:07:23 - 00:00:13:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry explore what each of their features have to offer where they don't. As you know, tech always has shortcomings. And so 00:00:13:16 - 00:00:20:03 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry we're going to try to kind of explore and and crack the door open on what some of those things might be. 00:00:20:06 - 00:00:42:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm going to give you what I believe you should choose between an iPhone or an Android phone for one of your children. And finally, we're going to flesh out the age old debate what do we do about phones and distractions as it pertains to education and youth ministry? But first and foremost, we're going to be exploring these three apps Aura versus Bark versus covenant. 00:00:42:27 - 00:01:12:00 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So let's dive in first here with Aura according to what we see here on their website. And I'm not an aura user, and I did not get the, a trial or free trial to, to check this out. And so I am just going to be going based on what I see on their website. But as someone who has 13 years of of youth ministry experience and is also a dad, I know a thing or two about, my way around these apps and what's, what they're offering and where maybe some of the shortcomings might be. 00:01:12:02 - 00:01:33:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But Aura, I believe, starts with a little bit of a baseline of security. And so I think they're a security app that has added parental control features into it. Later, rather than being a parental control app first. Right. So each of these, you can tell each of these starts and a little bit of a different place. And so Aura starts with security. 00:01:33:25 - 00:01:56:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so one of the things that Aura has to offer is, you know, if you're here on on YouTube, you'll see some of these things on screen, but something about content filtering and safe search and YouTube, safe mode. And they'll check their history and their internet usage and, and time left and stuff like that. You can do things like time limits and pausing the internet and bedtime and bonus time. 00:01:56:07 - 00:02:15:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They also have some gaming features and things that can keep kids safe online, but you'll see that Aura and Bark are in direct competition, because in just a minute, we're gonna look at the Bark versus Aura page. But Aura has parental controls and they are now in partnership with circle. You might remember Circle by Disney. So Aura and circle are not together. 00:02:15:10 - 00:02:40:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so with circle powered by circle Aura offers content filtering, offers screen time limits, bedtime pausing, the internet, internet usage reports, and this is I always pay attention to stuff like this because this is what I want to know. Right? So like I'm going to read what this says, get a complete picture of kids internet use across all devices so you can make informed decisions about the amount of screen time that's right for your family. 00:02:40:08 - 00:03:03:29 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry I'm still not sure what they're doing with that and how they're, tracking the the usage report of that, the internet history. It'll, track kids online habits to spot overuse on certain apps and websites, and see which sites were blocked. And so that to me is just like, a screen time, you know, kind of report like how many minutes it has been on TikTok, how many minutes it has been on YouTube, so to speak. 00:03:03:29 - 00:03:24:10 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can give online time, safe gaming, safe browsing, and then antivirus and dark web monitoring. So those things right there again, sort of communicate to me like they're about like the safety online and like hackers and those types of things and those are valuable. Don't get me wrong. Right. Here's how they do parental controls here. They you can add your child, you link their device, and then you just customize it. 00:03:24:10 - 00:03:43:21 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And based on the screenshot here, you can either block or not block. Right. So discord block or not block, Facebook block or not block. And if you remember in our last episode linked right here at the top of the screen, if you're here on YouTube, I talked about moderation. Right. And as your child grows older, figuring out how to sprinkle in more elements of moderation. 00:03:43:21 - 00:04:07:27 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so in the same kind of vein, this is a very like yes or no sort of response. Like, can they be on this app or not? Versus how do they make wise decisions while they're on that app? And you know, as you're parenting, there may be certain apps you want to keep your kids completely away from. But as you're getting older and developing and showing more responsibility, how do you offer them that without giving them full, unlimited and unleashed rein on it? 00:04:07:29 - 00:04:32:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So let's talk about pricing. It looks like if you pay an annualized version of it, you are at about $8.33 per month. Or if you do like the monthly breakdown, it's about $11 per month. So 833 per month billed annually. You're looking at $99.96, per year versus 11, which is $132 per year. So that seems reasonable to me for a subscription. 00:04:32:28 - 00:04:52:15 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like I if I were a customer, I would not be upset about that price tag. Of course, you gotta do what works best for you. So bark in comparison to talk about Barc, now they have this website. Here's literally bark versus circle. Plus the aura app. Right. So it's literally they're comparing their suite of products versus aura. 00:04:52:15 - 00:05:10:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So you can see these two are in a little bit of competition with one another. And so let's just look at how they compare and how they stack up against them. So it says both of them can block specific apps, bark can block specific sites, and it can choose from 19 different categories to, block from. 00:05:10:18 - 00:05:33:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry They have location tracking. Both of them do. Both of them can create custom screen time schedules. Here apply different screen time rules to different day. So this is bark can create specific rules for each day of the week based on your family or has different schedules for weekdays and weekends. And so I guess, or, according to bark here, has a weekday option and a weekend option. 00:05:33:23 - 00:05:54:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry That's it. Or bark, you can do different days. That may be useful for certain things, like maybe a one day, a heavy soccer practice day. And you can't use phones that day as much. I'm not sure. But, you know, there is more it sounds like more flexibility on that. But here in this is true content monitoring, bark gives themselves a check, as you would assume that the company would. 00:05:54:22 - 00:06:15:09 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It gives Aura an X. And so let's see what it says here. So this skin text email phone video, 30 plus apps and social media platforms for issues in children's phones, tablets and Chromebooks where or does not offer true content monitoring. They don't use advanced technology to look for keywords in context. However, you can monitor or view internet usage or history of an app, website or category. 00:06:15:09 - 00:06:35:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And we did see that. And so it looks like bark, is a little bit more, invasive. And parents may like that may not. Right. And so that's a good thing. Also alerts for sexual content, cyberbullying and depression. Bark alerts are sent for worrisome content across 19 different categories. And you can add unlimited devices for each of your kids. 00:06:35:14 - 00:06:53:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry You can do that on both of them. So, you monitor content. And so here's how this looks on the screenshot. If you're watching here on screen, it sends a little alert. And so it actually parses out these words that may look like, you know, this may be bullying. And, and that's different than just straight up, like, content or website or, you know what I'm saying. 00:06:53:14 - 00:07:10:11 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So that's really good and that's really helpful for parent. And so again this as a parent, you may be looking at this and think how you know, how grateful you might be for something like that. Commanded screen time here. It looks like, you can set schedules, you can block certain websites, certain apps. You can track locations. All that's great. 00:07:10:13 - 00:07:26:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Let's talk about pricing. So Burke has, kind of a variety, a lot of different suites. They've been in the game for a while, so they have Burke Premium, which is $14 per month, and then Burke Junior, which is $5 per month. And the difference is both of them can manage screen time. Both of them can filter websites. 00:07:26:26 - 00:07:51:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Both of them can keep up with locations. However, Burke Junior can't monitor text emails from 30 plus apps or get alerts for things like cyber bullying. In addition to that, you should know that Burke has a variety of different types of content. So they have phones, they have their app, and then they have thing called Burke home. And so that's to monitor things like smart screens, smart TVs, gaming, and stuff like that. 00:07:51:06 - 00:08:11:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so, within the phone of Bark, right, there's the starter plan, which it says starting at $39 a month. What you get for that is unlimited talk, text, no internet, the App Store or games as it advances up $49 unlimited talk, text and Wi-Fi. So no data. 59 is unlimited talk text, four gigs of Wi-Fi data, or like data. 00:08:11:22 - 00:08:32:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Data like you're not on a Wi-Fi network. 69 is unlimited. Talk text eight gigs and 89 is unlimited talk text in data. So a bark phone, if you're just getting started, you don't already have a phone that you're trying to retrofit for your kid. For online safety, Bark seems like a the phone seems like a great way to get started, especially introducing some of these things to children. 00:08:32:06 - 00:08:58:18 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry The app Bark Premium is $14 a month, which nets out to, or is about $99 a year if you pay in the annualized version. So again, compared to aura, that's right. In that same range. And then they also offer the home thing. And so the thing is, if you add the phone plus the app, plus the home, the phone, if you go at it's like most expensive is, a little over a thousand a year, the apps $99 a year, and the home is about $72 per year. 00:08:58:20 - 00:09:16:14 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, the third one that I want to look at is Covenant Eyes. And now, if you've never heard of Covenant Eyes, so like I said, they each start with a different sort of baseline. So aura I would say starts with like internet safety. Bark is parental controls. I feel like an aura sort of has retrofitted their, you know, company to kind of match that. 00:09:16:14 - 00:09:34:25 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And then Covenant Eyes is honestly a little bit more like purity and, have like having good online habits. And so I think it may start with a little bit older mindset and a little bit older demographic. However, I will just be clear, like I actually have this installed on my device and you're going to see why here in just a minute. 00:09:34:28 - 00:10:00:26 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry It starts with the concept of having allies or basically people that you can, trust and relate to. And so these people get your reports and, and keep, track of your internet monitoring and your internet habits and they'll get reports every couple of weeks. And so what Covenant Eyes does is you install, a little program on your computer and it monitors everything on the screen. 00:10:00:28 - 00:10:24:06 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Now, listen, I've heard stories as a youth pastor, have been in youth ministry almost 14 years of kids who will go to like the Bible app, click on a link, it'll open up a browser, and then they're just on the Bible app. And so what, like a bark or an aura will do is they would look at that and they would say, hey, they're on the Bible app, but they're not telling you what actually is showing up on their screen on the Bible app. 00:10:24:06 - 00:10:43:24 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And if they're just using the Bible app as the gateway into something else that doesn't actually do us any good, we're covenant eyes. The difference is it shows every single thing on the screen. So even though you're in the Bible app, what is showing up on the screen is what's really being monitored and what's really being tracked. And I really, really like that. 00:10:43:24 - 00:11:02:16 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And as a parent, I really, really appreciate that because I can set myself up as one of my children's allies and I can go in to their account and I can look at everything that they do. I'll get a weekly summary report, but if I go in, I can look at it almost minute by minute of what is been shown and what has been on their screen recently. 00:11:02:17 - 00:11:22:04 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And, it will send alerts for things that are alarming. You can, you know, like it'll say like, hey, this website doesn't seem like a good website or it's unsafe or whatever, but if there's like if you're more stuck in the gray and it's like, it's just like images that are not so, honoring to God on like, social media or like Instagram or whatever. 00:11:22:04 - 00:11:42:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Like it will also pick those things up to them. That's what I really, really appreciate about an app like Covenant Eyes. And so, the the difference is, it's about $184 per year. So is the most expensive of them all. I have been to use it for a while. And so before they did this they did just website kind of monitoring. 00:11:42:12 - 00:12:09:23 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry But now they've, created this kind of AI product to monitor every single thing on screen. Now it can be used for both iPhones and androids. On the iPhone app, I believe that you have to download an app. And then everything within that app is tracked. But you and I know that our lives live within other apps, like we don't just go to like, Safari, and that's the only place that we browse the internet like we're on TikTok, we're on YouTube, we're on Instagram. 00:12:09:25 - 00:12:28:19 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And so if you want everything monitored, it has to be through the app on an iPhone. However, one of the reasons I prefer Android and I would recommend that, by the way, is, it tracks every single thing on every single screen over all apps. Every single thing on the screen is always being monitored. And I like that. 00:12:28:19 - 00:12:46:12 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I appreciate that. And so you give up some, you know, social equity because you are the cause for the green bubbles. But every single thing on the phone is always being monitored. And so between these three aura and Mark and covenant, as I would recommend Covenant Eyes, and I would recommend it being used with an Android phone. 00:12:46:14 - 00:13:04:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I, think that if you went that route for your kids or even for yourself, you will not be disappointed. And I just wanna let you know. Link down below. There is an app to, give Covenant Eyes a try. They have a complete 30 day money back guarantee so you don't have anything to lose. Give it a shot, see if you like it. 00:13:04:22 - 00:13:27:01 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry And I believe it is worth it. And what that leads us to as a result, out of this sort of generation alpha conversation that we've been having is what do we do as educators and what do we do as a youth pastors with phones. If all the all these kids are getting phones that earlier and earlier ages and they're bringing them to church and they're bringing them to youth group, like, what do we do with all of them and how do we handle that? 00:13:27:03 - 00:13:44:22 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry Well, I sat down recently with my friend Josh Baldwin, and we had a conversation about what this means for cell phones and youth ministry and navigating distractions. Do we cut them all out or do we find a way to lean into them? So I'm excited for you to take a listen to that conversation. If you're watching here on YouTube is linked right here on screen. 00:13:44:24 - 00:13:57:28 Nick Clason | Hybrid Ministry So go ahead and take a look at that. And don't forget, as you do that, we at the Hybrid Ministry Show are trying to make digital discipleship easy and possible and accessible. So as always, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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Are screens a blessing or a curse? 3 parental Control Principles to live by from a Pastor Hybrid Ministry's Recommended Smartphone Age And the best phone monitoring apps on the market. //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/114 ====================================== 📓SHOWNOTES //MEET GEN ALPHA https://www.amazon.com/Generation-Alpha-Mark-McCrindle/dp/0733646301 👉 STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz 🆓 FREEBIES 🆓 Level up your youth ministry game with these freebies! 🔗 https://linktr.ee/clasonnick 🛠️TOOLS Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products VIDIQ https://vidiq.com/hybrid BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit 🕰️TIMECODES 00:00 Are Screens a Blessing or a Curse? 05:17 Principle #1 Phone Apps 08:04 Principle #2 Addictive Screens 09:22 Principle #3 Moderation - Intersection of Influence 11:35 My Recommended Age to Give a Child a Phone 13:01 Top 3 Parental Control Apps -- TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:01 - 00:00:29:09 Nick Clason At what age should you buy your kids a cell phone? And in this episode, we're also going to look at our screens. A blessing or a curse? Three different parental controls that you can live by in your life as you navigate this technology and cell phone kind of landscape with your children. My recommended age to give your kids a phone and the best phone monitoring apps on the market. 00:00:29:11 - 00:00:57:14 Nick Clason And don't forget the down below. We've included chapters in the bottom of this video so you can be able to jump around. But first, does anyone remember this? See, this was my childhood internet experience and I was born in 1989, barely even an 80s baby. And this was what my internet experience was. And we had to dial up to get on the internet. 00:00:57:15 - 00:01:21:28 Nick Clason I would spend my summer afternoons on Aim, chatting with all of my friends. But if my mom wanted to use the phone, she would pick up the phone and it would kick me off of AOL Instant Messenger. Compare that to today, where the internet is in our pocket, our TVs are connected to the internet, and we can watch and browse anything we want on there in our living room. 00:01:21:28 - 00:01:58:22 Nick Clason And the answer to every single question is literally at our fingertips. It's a blessing paired with a curse. Technology and phones are the common answer when you ask, what's the difference between Generation Alpha and Generation Z or generation Y? Millennials or Gen X, like the common difference is technology and phones. And so it will mark generation alpha as the key indicator and the key difference to their generation. 00:01:58:22 - 00:02:28:22 Nick Clason And all the other generations that have gone before it. Generation Alpha started and was born and is widely held to be classified as being born in 2010. 2010 is the year that the iPad was invented. It was the year that Instagram was also invented, and it was when app was the word of the year. So those things just simply underscore how marked by technology and screens. 00:02:28:22 - 00:02:59:16 Nick Clason Generation Alpha is. So I believe that navigating technology is going to be either the key to success or the key to the failure of those in Generation Alpha. So in many ways, the verdict is still out. Our screens good, our screens bad. Is technology helpful? Are they here for the greater good or are they inherently evil and are the causes of them? 00:02:59:19 - 00:03:23:05 Nick Clason What's causing Gen Alpha to be doomed? You know, we've been discussing in this playlist link right here the the characteristics and the stereotypes of Generation Alpha. Who are they and and how do we teach them? And in today's episode, we're exploring the world of screens. I want you to check out this quote from E.F. Shoemaker who said this about the invention. 00:03:23:08 - 00:03:44:01 Nick Clason It's either the greatest blessing or it's the greatest curse of modern times. And sometimes we forget which it is. Go ahead and give me a like if you think that that quote is about the internet, and then give me a subscribe. If you think that that quote is about the printing press. And if you give me a like and if you thought it was about the internet, you're wrong. 00:03:44:01 - 00:04:13:22 Nick Clason So now you also owe me a subscribe because this quote, believe it or not, was about the printing press in the book, Generation Alpha by Mccrindle and fell. They have a quote that says this. It says no doubt. Very few people today worry about the negative impacts of the printing press. And over time, we will see today's digital equivalent of the printing press, overwhelmingly used to promote human flourishing as well. 00:04:13:25 - 00:04:41:11 Nick Clason You got to remember that tech in the internet and cell phones, we are in its infancy, and Generation Alpha is truly one of the first generations, the the first generation to be born with and use tech from the age that they were born like they were. They grew up with screens and with cell phones and those things in their hands and in their possession and widely available to them. 00:04:41:11 - 00:05:08:22 Nick Clason So the jury is still out. And in a lot of ways, we as parents, we don't even know some of the implications or some of the the downfalls or evils that could be caused by some of this, integration and use of technology. So let's look at this from a parenting perspective. What are three parental control principles when using phones, tech, the internet, and technology to live by? 00:05:08:23 - 00:05:31:07 Nick Clason Well let's check it out. So parental control principle number one is parent your child. Don't let your device parent your child. I hear this a lot. I'm a youth pastor. I've been youth ministry for over 13 years. And, a lot of the questions I get about technology and cell phones and internet and usage is what is the best app for my kids and a lot. 00:05:31:08 - 00:05:57:02 Nick Clason And you got to kind of what I try to uncover with that question is, are you hoping that the app will parent your child and keep them away from all of the dangers of the internet? Because if you are, there is no such thing. Every app has a workaround, every device has a way for a kid to get through every firewall like they there's, way around everything. 00:05:57:02 - 00:06:22:00 Nick Clason And if they want to sin or if they want to be curious, they will find a way. And so one of the recommendations that I make for parents is use the parental control apps. And we'll get to those in just a minute. But but beyond that create moments, natural moments of conversation. And so I have two children. I have an eight year old and I have a six year old, and they are squarely in Gen Alpha. 00:06:22:00 - 00:06:43:23 Nick Clason They don't have phones yet. but they do use technology. We have a Nintendo Switch. They watch YouTube on our our smart TV. But I try to create natural moments of conversation. and so every single Friday morning, I take them out to breakfast or to lunch and, I take them out individually and I just, I invest time in them. 00:06:44:01 - 00:07:05:21 Nick Clason And sometimes it's really meaningful and really monumental, and other times it's just goofy and silly and we're just kind of doing the thing. Okay. But the reason I do that is because there are going to be moments where we need to have some tough conversations down the road, and I don't want, a tough conversation to just have to happen. 00:07:05:21 - 00:07:29:28 Nick Clason And I, I pull one of my kids aside and I'm like, all right, let's talk. Let's have a tough conversation. I want there to be a natural rhythm and a natural momentum of conversation. And so they know every single Friday that we're going to go to breakfast, we're going to go to lunch. And so when that tough conversation does have to come, I can just weave that into a Friday morning or a Friday afternoon time, time period. 00:07:29:28 - 00:07:49:26 Nick Clason And it's not out of the norm for them. It's a regular rhythm of relationship and a regular rhythm of connection. And so find ways as parents, to naturally parent your child. Have those conversations about cell phones. Don't just stick a parent monitoring app on there and hope that that does the job. If you are, they're going to find a way around it. 00:07:49:26 - 00:08:19:23 Nick Clason Instead, get in there, have those conversations, and keep that door of communication open. The second parent, control principle to live by a fight for your children to have real experiences. You know, the amygdala is like the the fight or flight section of the brain, you know, and that amygdala, the ability to to navigate and handle tough moments in life, grows best through real experiences. 00:08:19:25 - 00:08:42:26 Nick Clason According to, screen smart. they say that video games, social media and pornography are all the same levels of addictive screens. And so if you've ever had a kid playing a video game and you just can't get them off of it and they don't seem like themselves, it's because what that, game is doing to their brains, it has the same effect that social media has. 00:08:42:26 - 00:09:14:23 Nick Clason It has the same effect that pornography has on their brain. And so in order to free them from that, in order to give them the the real experience is to grow in their amygdala. You have to fight to give them the most opportunity for real experiences. So hear me obviously, on the Hybrid Ministry show, I'm not against tech and I'm not against phones, but as a parent, the more that you can give your children those real experiences is going to help benefit them and give them opportunities to grow. 00:09:14:25 - 00:09:38:14 Nick Clason And the third parenting principle to live by simply this is just do your best to live in moderation. Too much of one thing is obviously not a great thing, but but too little and and completely shutting it down is also not necessarily a great thing. Look at this. look at this chart here on screen. If you're watching on YouTube. 00:09:38:14 - 00:10:00:07 Nick Clason This comes from one of my favorite books called It's Just a Phase, written by the rethink Group. But I love this graph because you'll see that you have positional influence as a parent, at a younger age, and you have relational influence and at a younger age, positional influence is everything you have with your children. You are their caretaker and your relational influence is really small. 00:10:00:10 - 00:10:21:17 Nick Clason But right here in the middle. And this is where generation Alpha is, this is where middle schoolers is. This is where all your elementary schools are. Your positional influence begins to decrease. They need you less and less. And that's ultimately the goal of parenting. And then your relational influence should continue to be growing, which is why I recommend keep the conversation walls open. 00:10:21:24 - 00:10:44:02 Nick Clason Keep the conversations going so that when you hit this moment of intersection of influence, it's not weird for you to kind of switch roles. And it's not weird for you, and it's not weird for your children. And so in the same way as your children grow older, you're obviously going to trust them with more, including technology and including cell phones. 00:10:44:04 - 00:11:05:26 Nick Clason And you need to build into that. You need to grow into that relational influence, because if you just your kid turned 16, your kid turns 13, your kid turns whatever age that you deem that a cell phone is good, is viable, is ready, and you just drop it in their lap without having the relational influence, it could be disastrous. 00:11:05:29 - 00:11:27:11 Nick Clason So continue to build into that. And as you continue to build into that, look for moments, look for markers, look for ways to determine if your child is ready. And as they get more mature, as you grow in your relational influence and drop that positional influence, it may then be time for you to consider giving your child a cell phone. 00:11:27:14 - 00:11:51:06 Nick Clason So what is my recommended age for giving your kid a cell phone? I mean, truly, as long as you can hold it off and get I get it right. Like, you may be listening to this and you're like, dude, you don't know you have an eight year old and a six year old. And you're right, like I, I would love to not give my kids a cell phone until they're 18 years old, but I don't know if that's realistic. 00:11:51:07 - 00:12:15:19 Nick Clason Right. I would just say you do what's best for you and your family, do what makes the most sense for you and your context and in your family, but hold off giving your kids a phone as long as you can. especially social media like my recommendation. What I want to try to do is I want to keep my kids away from, algorithms and social media and addictive type things like that. 00:12:15:19 - 00:12:38:18 Nick Clason As long as I can, potentially even to the age of 18. and then cell phones, maybe 14, maybe 16 without social media, maybe just texting, maybe just calling. It might be different if you have kids in sports and and they need phones to, to get Ahold of you. But the only thing I'll say about that is I lived all my childhood, go into sports without ever having a phone. 00:12:38:23 - 00:12:59:13 Nick Clason And so we have become accustomed to the luxury that it offers us now. But there was a time in our day and age when it didn't have to happen, and now it feels like it does absolutely have to happen. And so, like I said at the beginning of the video, these are going to be my top three apps with different protections for smartphone. 00:12:59:15 - 00:13:16:14 Nick Clason And I'm so glad that you're here checking it out, because those are going to be included in the very next video, which is linked right here on screen. So go ahead and give that video a tap. If you're watching this in live time, that will drop next Thursday. So make sure that you are subscribed so that you don't miss it. 00:13:16:14 - 00:13:31:06 Nick Clason If you're watching this on repeat, that'll be right here on screen. Watch these videos. And don't forget we are here to make digital discipleship easy, possible, and accessible. So as always, don't forget to stay hybrid.

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Finally, we'll explore the difference between traditional teaching models and more modern approaches to learning. //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/113 ====================================== 📓SHOWNOTES //SHOWNOTES & TRANSCRIPTS http://www.hybridministry.xyz/113 //MEET GEN ALPHA https://www.amazon.com/Generation-Alpha-Mark-McCrindle/dp/0733646301 👉 STAY CONNECTED WITH NICK YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clasonnick Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hybridministry/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@clasonnick Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HybridMinistry Website: https://www.hybridministry.xyz ====================================== 🆓 FREEBIES 🆓 Level up your youth ministry game with these freebies! 🔗 https://linktr.ee/clasonnick ====================================== 🛠️TOOLS Some of the below links are affilate links in which we do recieve a small commission based on your purchase or use of products VIDIQ https://vidiq.com/hybrid BEST DYM RESOURCES https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/dym OPUS.PRO FOR AI SHORTS & REELS https://www.opus.pro/?via=a5d361 //YOUTUBE STARTER KIT FOR UNDER $100 https://www.hybridministry.xyz/articles/youtubestarterkit AUTO POD https://autopod.lemonsqueezy.com?aff=MX7Vv -------------- 🕰️TIMECODES 00:00 What is Brainrot? 01:30 Social Challenges Facing Gen Alpha 05:13 5 Keys to Actively Listening 07:42 Traditional vs. Modern Teaching Methods -------------- ✍️TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:01:03 Nick Clason In this episode, 00:00:01:08 - 00:00:06:17 Nick Clason we're going to explore the different social challenges facing the iPad generation 00:00:06:17 - 00:00:14:08 Nick Clason known as Generation Alpha. I'm also going to share with you the one key to getting through to this generation. And finally 00:00:14:08 - 00:00:18:16 Nick Clason was what are the traditional teaching models versus modern methods of teaching? But 00:00:18:16 - 00:00:20:07 Nick Clason first, what in the world 00:00:20:07 - 00:00:27:16 Nick Clason is brain rot? I went to the world's foremost authority, which is Reddit, and you know that with this person, this user is, Sakai said. 00:00:27:16 - 00:00:29:18 Nick Clason Brain rot is the idea that exposure to 00:00:29:18 - 00:00:33:00 Nick Clason certain content can basically turn you into an idiot. 00:00:33:00 - 00:00:55:08 Nick Clason Have you heard? Have you heard the term brain rot? Give me a like if you have and give me a subscribe if you haven't, because you probably need to hear some of this stuff. But according to Mccrindle and fell in the book that I am reading for some of this research on Generation Alpha, they said Gen Alpha seamlessly integrates technology and screens into their lives, and they can't imagine a world without it. 00:00:55:10 - 00:01:03:21 Nick Clason Furthermore, they said Generation Alpha is using Texians before they could talk, and so we have yet to see the full impacts of their interactions with 00:01:03:21 - 00:01:08:23 Nick Clason screens, which is why I believe some people say that Generation Alpha is doomed. 00:01:08:23 - 00:01:11:15 Nick Clason They consume more and more content 00:01:11:15 - 00:01:18:24 Nick Clason online. That is just silly and dumb and stupid. And I think that's where some people go ahead and dub it and classify it as brain rotten. 00:01:18:24 - 00:01:23:05 Nick Clason So how can we as parents and educators, pastors and teachers who love them? How can we 00:01:23:05 - 00:01:30:24 Nick Clason pull them up out of it? Well, to make matters worse, beyond just this brain rot thing, there are some social challenges that 00:01:30:24 - 00:01:40:05 Nick Clason Generation Alpha is facing on a regular basis, according to parents. The top five things that Generation Alpha is facing is bullying. 00:01:40:08 - 00:02:02:22 Nick Clason Online bullying through social networks, navigating their own mental wellbeing, social pressure to be a high achiever and then the pressure to grow up faster. The list is the same with educators, but it's in a little bit of a different order with a little bit of different percentages. Educators would say the number one thing that Generation Alpha is facing is online bullying through social networks, the pressure to grow up faster. 00:02:02:23 - 00:02:10:26 Nick Clason Social pressure to be a high achiever, navigating their own mental wellbeing and then navigating loneliness and social isolation. 00:02:10:26 - 00:02:27:23 Nick Clason Tony George, who's the headmaster at The King's School, says this is never before have we been so connected and yet so lonely at the same time. And so to be human is to be relational. Yet social media has now come to amplify the worst of humility the anti-social. 00:02:27:27 - 00:02:48:12 Nick Clason Technology amplifies wellbeing issues like bullying, and we have to deal with that. Other issues facing Generation Alpha that are social challenges are things that we just have to be aware of and come to grips with. Up aging. We talked about up in the last video, which is linked right here. When we explored and introduced Generation Alpha for the first time. 00:02:48:15 - 00:02:51:16 Nick Clason Another thing that kind of comes to the forefront, especially with 00:02:51:16 - 00:02:53:19 Nick Clason education, is just sitting still. This 00:02:53:19 - 00:03:02:04 Nick Clason generation is finding it harder and harder to stay still. And so in a traditional classroom setting, how do you manage something like that? 00:03:02:04 - 00:03:04:26 Nick Clason You know my own context in student ministry. 00:03:04:26 - 00:03:16:19 Nick Clason One of the things that I do to sort of overcome the sitting still conundrum is we try to integrate, turn and talks where I'll teach for a little bit, and then I'll let them turn and have an opportunity to talk. 00:03:16:21 - 00:03:17:08 Nick Clason I use this 00:03:17:08 - 00:03:25:15 Nick Clason feature on demand side gig presentation model that has different poll features so that they can use their phone. They can seamlessly, 00:03:25:15 - 00:03:30:13 Nick Clason as we said earlier, seamlessly integrate into the technology that's in front of them 00:03:30:13 - 00:03:46:05 Nick Clason and try to create moments of interaction amongst them, amongst myself as the communicator and the presenter. I try to break up my teaching methods so that I'm not like teaching for like a half an hour straight, but I'll teach for a little bit, and then we'll put a break in the middle and do some other stuff, and I'll teach 00:03:46:05 - 00:03:47:10 Nick Clason a little bit more. 00:03:47:13 - 00:03:52:15 Nick Clason We also like to put paper down on the tables that they're sitting at, so that they can doodle 00:03:52:15 - 00:03:57:24 Nick Clason on it, or even just take notes to keep paying attention to what's going on in the 00:03:57:24 - 00:04:02:03 Nick Clason room. Other things that they face online bullying, 00:04:02:03 - 00:04:13:05 Nick Clason children, developing with technology is another thing that they face. Like, for example, kids who say, hey, Alexa, play like that's just a normal part of their vernacular, and we don't know what the implications are yet 00:04:13:05 - 00:04:17:23 Nick Clason for kids who have been raised with this as a normal fabric and part of their life. 00:04:17:24 - 00:04:18:00 Nick Clason I know 00:04:18:00 - 00:04:30:06 Nick Clason I installed my very first Alexa when my, now eight year old, who is in Generation Alpha, was a baby, and so he's only ever had an Alexa device in his house. 00:04:30:06 - 00:04:42:06 Nick Clason And YouTube is becoming the preferred source and piece of entertainment with Generation Alpha, with, people like PewDiePie. Dude. Perfect. MrBeast, Ryan's World, and the odd is out. 00:04:42:09 - 00:04:42:13 Nick Clason And 00:04:42:13 - 00:04:49:11 Nick Clason finally, how do we keep these kids safe? Parents especially are concerned about safety of Generation Alpha, especially with 00:04:49:11 - 00:04:57:10 Nick Clason the rise of shows like Murder Next Door. And so how do we keep our children and Generation Alpha safe? Well, I'm glad that you asked, 00:04:57:10 - 00:05:09:23 Nick Clason because I now do think that with those social challenges sort of in view, how do we with those social challenges with the idea of brain rot, what is the key to getting through to this generation? 00:05:10:00 - 00:05:18:14 Nick Clason Let's check it out. one of the keys, I believe, to getting through to Generation Alpha is to be an active listener. 00:05:18:14 - 00:05:34:03 Nick Clason Once again, from the book Generation Alphabet. Mccrindle and Phil, they give kind of five steps to active listening. And I want to share them with you because I thought that they're fantastic because we all the generation Alpha was grown up with, cell phones and technology. 00:05:34:04 - 00:05:44:13 Nick Clason We all are victims to the cell phone, world. And we all are victims to screens. And so they're keys to kind of this active listening is, number one 00:05:44:13 - 00:05:47:08 Nick Clason to squarely face the listener. When 00:05:47:08 - 00:05:48:29 Nick Clason you squarely face the listener, you 00:05:48:29 - 00:05:52:04 Nick Clason can demonstrate full attention and interest. 00:05:52:04 - 00:05:54:25 Nick Clason Number two, open body language. So 00:05:54:25 - 00:05:57:27 Nick Clason put down your screen, uncross your arms. 00:05:57:27 - 00:06:02:21 Nick Clason And that indicates and communicates interest and attention. 00:06:02:21 - 00:06:06:29 Nick Clason If you lean forward, lean towards them. Then that will help give 00:06:06:29 - 00:06:17:01 Nick Clason the speaker, the idea that you are interested as opposed to leaning back, which, kind of helps demonstrate that you may be less interested in what they have to say. 00:06:17:01 - 00:06:21:09 Nick Clason Finally, eye contact offer focus on the speaker, and we look them squarely 00:06:21:09 - 00:06:23:06 Nick Clason in the eye and give them our full attention. 00:06:23:11 - 00:06:28:26 Nick Clason That also communicates that they have value and that what they say matters and is interesting. And then finally 00:06:28:26 - 00:06:46:25 Nick Clason give responsive gestures like nods and ahas and other affirming feedback. The speaker will share more as we, as a listener, display our empathy and our ability to engage with them. Now, here's the thing. You all know that you've all heard that that's just the key to active listening. 00:06:46:25 - 00:07:17:16 Nick Clason But with screens as a hurdle in a lot of our lives, we need to practice putting those things down and practice active listening with Generation Alpha. And I believe that we will help them get off of their devices if we can show them and share with them a way to interact as human beings. 2018 The National Institute of Health reported that children who spend more than two hours on screens demonstrated lower language and thinking skills, 00:07:17:16 - 00:07:30:19 Nick Clason and so it's important that we all help model four generation Alpha, who's grown up with screens, who's only ever known a model for them, what it's like to have healthy relationship with other human beings, and also how to get 00:07:30:19 - 00:07:59:12 Nick Clason away from screens and really experience and unlock the fullness of life. So if we're teachers, pastors, educators, I'm a youth pastor. Like, how do we teach Generation Alpha more than 4 in 5, but 83% or more in seven and ten? About 71% of educators believe that schools today are doing much better at engaging students with their very different learning styles, 00:07:59:12 - 00:08:12:16 Nick Clason but teach students today are experiencing a teacher facilitated, interactive, learning centric environment, and classroom layouts are now designed to help sort of reflect this. 00:08:12:16 - 00:08:40:00 Nick Clason And so what are some of the keys and the differences between traditional teaching models and and more? classic and now new like learning styles. It's kind of like the difference between self-directed and some of the individualized styles of learning. And so unlike a traditional classroom setting, you may be more verbal and just talk more, but I think a more modern style of learning for Generation Alpha is they're more visual. 00:08:40:06 - 00:08:43:00 Nick Clason So how can you bring about visual aid? How can you bring about 00:08:43:00 - 00:08:51:24 Nick Clason object lessons and things that are going to allow them to see it with their eyes and let that come to life in a little bit of a different way? Traditional 00:08:51:24 - 00:08:58:28 Nick Clason models might be, hey, sit and be quiet and listen. But now more modern methods of learning are try it and see. 00:08:59:02 - 00:09:19:02 Nick Clason And, you know, I think that's a challenge for a lot of us in churches and in student ministry, because how do we help kids try and see what is there in the Bible? You know, last week I tried something. It was an experiment. I don't even know if I liked it yet or not, but I had students look up verses to help me describe the character of God. 00:09:19:02 - 00:09:20:07 Nick Clason And then when they looked them 00:09:20:07 - 00:09:46:09 Nick Clason up, they told them to me. And from the stage and from the platform, I had my TV or my my, computer, airplane, Bible gateway.com. And I looked at verse up live time and then it would show on the screen, and then everyone could read it together. That was just an example of me trying to let them kind of try to look up in the Bible for themselves and then see what they looked up and kind of add to the teaching method. 00:09:46:15 - 00:10:11:27 Nick Clason Traditional. Other traditional methods of learning might be an authoritarian method of learning with the teacher who's in charge and who's the boss. But now more modern methods of learning are a participant per participatory right, letting generation Alpha actually participate in their learning and in the teaching style. Traditional models might be more curriculum centered, where now they're more learner 00:10:11:27 - 00:10:19:04 Nick Clason centric and trying to get through to them and give them, what they need in order to learn, traditional might 00:10:19:04 - 00:10:24:13 Nick Clason be more closed book exams, but we live in an open book world, 00:10:24:13 - 00:10:24:19 Nick Clason right? 00:10:24:23 - 00:10:31:25 Nick Clason You're never going to be faced to in a situation where you don't have access to find the answer to something, especially with a cell 00:10:31:25 - 00:10:38:28 Nick Clason phone in your pocket. So how do we as educators, as teachers, as pastors, how do we navigate that for 00:10:38:28 - 00:10:42:05 Nick Clason Generation Alpha in a way that makes sense? 00:10:42:05 - 00:10:46:23 Nick Clason Traditional would be books and paper. But now we have glass and we have devices. 00:10:46:23 - 00:10:56:10 Nick Clason We have cell phones. We have ways to look things up. Traditional would be theoretical thinking, but now there's more practical skills that need to be taught and conveyed and 00:10:56:10 - 00:11:07:26 Nick Clason and given to the next generation. As we said in the last episode, that several of the jobs that they're going to be taking are going to be different than than jobs that even exist now. 00:11:08:00 - 00:11:09:13 Nick Clason And finally, direct 00:11:09:13 - 00:11:13:21 Nick Clason instruction versus inquiry based learning. So, 00:11:13:21 - 00:11:44:14 Nick Clason so with all of this different kind of conflicting information, what do you think our approach to education as pastors and educators should be with Generation Alpha? What even further more should be should our approach with cell phones be should we embrace them and find a way to let generation Alpha use them, or should we push them away because they disrupt the traditional ways of teaching and educating? 00:11:44:14 - 00:12:01:12 Nick Clason How do we navigate that? As youth pastors? How do we navigate that as parents? What do you do if you have a generation alpha kid, do you lean into a phone? Do you embrace it or do you hold off giving it to them? Well, I'm glad you asked because I want to explore that in the very next episode, which is linked right here on screen. 00:12:01:19 - 00:12:16:13 Nick Clason So feel free to tap that. And I would love to talk to you even more about my findings in that, don't forget that we are making digital discipleship easy, possible, and accessible. So as always, stay hybrid.

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Check out this quote. It says youth today love luxury. They have bad manners. They have contempt for authority. No respect for older people. And they talk nonsense when they should be working. They contradict their parents. They talk too much in company that guzzle their food. They lay their eggs on the table and they tyrannized their elders. 00:00:20:16 - 00:00:41:00 Nick Clason Now, if you think that this is talking about Generation Alpha, then give me a like. If you think it's like my generation Z. Go ahead and give me a subscribe. And if you think you know that this quote was within the last century, then you owe me a turning on the bell. Because in this episode and in this future playlist, we're going to be exploring the world of Gen Alpha. 00:00:41:00 - 00:01:08:03 Nick Clason But would you be surprised to know that this is actually a quote from the Greek philosopher Socrates, who lived between 470 and 390 9BC yes, the fact that the next generation throws older generations off their scent is not an uncommon phenomenon in human history. I mean, just look at the fact that this quote came all the way back from Socrates. 00:01:08:03 - 00:01:37:10 Nick Clason So we're going to be exploring Gen Alpha, and are they doomed? If you've been on YouTube or searching on social media, you've heard things like they are doomed, they're in trouble. What even is this generation? Who are these skinny, rich toilet kids like? What does any of this even mean? The fact of the matter is, like generations that are younger often throw off generations that are older, and the older you get, the harder it is to connect and have a bridge back to that younger generation. 00:01:37:16 - 00:01:58:14 Nick Clason So in the world today, the current generations that we have living are our builders. And they were born in 1925 through 1945. They are the elders of are the oldest generation that's currently alive to this day. And then moving on, we have the boomers who are in some cases still in the workforce, but all beginning to start to phase out. 00:01:58:14 - 00:02:22:12 Nick Clason And they were born in 1946 through 1964, and probably the oldest, in the workforce, majority is generation X, and they were born in 65 to 69. And then shout out to me and all my other fellow millennials, we were born in 1980 through 1994. Gen Z was then born in 95 through 2009 and then finally Gen Alpha. 00:02:22:15 - 00:02:42:10 Nick Clason They are quantifying it at 2011 through 2024. And so I got the lion's share of this research from Mark Mccrindle and Ashley Fell's book. It'll be linked down below in the show notes. If you're interested in checking out, it's called Generation Alpha. Understanding our children and helping Them Thrive. So let's talk about some of the different things about Generation Alpha. 00:02:42:10 - 00:03:03:23 Nick Clason So first and foremost, every generation since boomers spans of about 50, at least 15 years. Right. And they've used, labels to kind of, letters to label these different generations. And so there have been other attempts made, for example, like millennials, but when you use something like millennials, it actually creates a little bit of a vague birth range. 00:03:03:23 - 00:03:27:15 Nick Clason And so while we are oftentimes called millennials, they're also just called Gen Y by a lot of sociology and researchers. And so then thus as we got to Gen Z, we started back over at the beginning alphabet. And that's how we get Generation Alpha. Some people have proposed to code generation Alpha. Corona owes due to the Covid 19 pandemic and the fact that they lived during that and in some cases were even born during that. 00:03:27:15 - 00:03:49:09 Nick Clason But they, while Covid was a massive part of their upbringing, in their childhood, they will continue to be shaped by the next three to 5 to 10 years. And not just that singular moment, though it felt longer than a moment did it? Not of Covid 19. But the next question I want to kind of uncover and unpack is who exactly is Gen Alpha? 00:03:49:10 - 00:04:18:11 Nick Clason You know, by December 2024, they are predicting that Generation Alpha will have a total of 2 billion globally, which will make them the largest generation in the history of the world. Technology and customization have shaped their childhood, and while Gen Z saw the rise of customization generation, alpha is going to begin to see the rise of personal ization. 00:04:18:13 - 00:04:47:20 Nick Clason And so Covid 19 will likely transform how Generation Alpha has approached technology, education, work, face to face interaction, mental health, and the concept and topic of resilience. But while our oldies are moving up into the ages of eight through about 12 years of age, they're calling the phenomenon. And those students and those kids who are that age, they're calling it the phenomenon of up aging, which means that kids in the 8 to 12 range are actually growing up faster. 00:04:47:24 - 00:05:17:02 Nick Clason They are maturing physically earlier than other previous generations. And so kids are getting older quicker. And that's what we're seeing, some of this, interaction of them on, on social media and on YouTube and, and acting and seeming a little bit more like adults. But also adolescence is being pushed back further. So they're aging up quicker, but adolescence is being pushed back further because adult, life often was characterized by things like marriage or as characterized by things like having children or getting a mortgage. 00:05:17:02 - 00:05:40:01 Nick Clason But those things are now being pushed back. And this generation, they're predicting, will stay in education longer. They'll start their earnings later and they'll stay at home longer than was the case with some previous generations. And so we're seeing this phenomenon of them being ushered into being older earlier, but staying in adolescence. It's longer. It's an interesting phenomenon. 00:05:40:01 - 00:05:59:20 Nick Clason And it creates and it's certainly unique and complex challenge for those of us who are in education or in, in, the church space. But I love this concept that generation Z saw the rise of customization, but Generation Alpha is now seeing the rise of personalization. Think about the algorithms and the, different eyes that are now out there. 00:05:59:20 - 00:06:21:22 Nick Clason Like these are completely radical phenomenons and it completely changes and re formats the way that certainly boomers and certainly Gen X and all of us have approached education of certain, groups of people and mass education moments. And so I want to explore in the next section five characteristics of generation Alpha that are worth us paying attention to. 00:06:21:25 - 00:06:51:01 Nick Clason And, how it then will shape the way that we educate and innovate and approach this generation. So characteristic number one is digital, right? They are not just I love the way that Barna put this. They're not just digital natives, they are not digital dependents. Right. So while Gen Z probably didn't get their first device until later elementary school generation Alpha has always had access to devices, even if it's not their own right. 00:06:51:01 - 00:07:17:23 Nick Clason Like research has actually, noticed and noted a drastic uptick in screen and app based play among children. The US reported that in ages 18 through 12, they consume on average four hours and 44 minutes of screen time per day, but that average increases up to seven hours and 22 minutes. If a student is between the ages of 13 and 18 years old. 00:07:17:23 - 00:07:39:11 Nick Clason So digital and apps and screen time, it's not going away. And so all of us in the education space and as parents, we have to figure out how do we navigate this as it's being inundated more and more and more and more? I mean, I just think about the phenomenon of Disney, you know, pre 2014. You go around, you do fast passes and you have to walk to different rides in the park and grab a fast pass ticket. 00:07:39:11 - 00:08:01:04 Nick Clason And it would tell you when to return for your return ride time. But now every thing is mobile. And while that's convenient, certain critics of Disney have made a comment that you go to the park and you have to be glued and tied to your phone all day long, the only way to truly experience the park the best way, the most optimal way, is through digital. 00:08:01:04 - 00:08:32:21 Nick Clason And while that's convenient, and certainly for a podcast like mine, which is the hybrid ministry show, it doesn't take into account the fact that sometimes we just want to be present. We want to be free and tethered away from our digital devices. Another characteristic, characteristic number two, is that they are a social generation. So although in-person social interaction may certainly be an area that needs work in Generation Alpha, kids today are more than any other generation X, extensively socially connected to and shaped by their peers. 00:08:32:21 - 00:08:57:08 Nick Clason In the book Generation Alpha by Mccrindle and Fellow, it talks about the phenomenon of Ryan and Ryan's world and how kids these days are influenced by that. Like, for example, my kids because of Ryan, he tried one episode. I can't remember, he tried, seaweed. And my kids are like, we want to try seaweed. Never in their life have they ever even been interested or even knew that seaweed existed. 00:08:57:08 - 00:09:20:17 Nick Clason But they tried it and they liked it. And we still buy it to this day for a snack. And so kids today are influenced by a network that is connected 24 over seven across social, geographical and demographic boundaries. But there's also a downside to this hyper connectivity, such as cyber bullying, and never actually being able to completely disconnect from these networks of relationships. 00:09:20:17 - 00:09:42:19 Nick Clason Characteristic number three is that they're global. So because of the internet generation, alpha is actually the first truly global generation. I want to share with you the Oxford Dictionary word of the year to highlight how global this generation is. And as you as I read through it. And it'll be listed here on screen. If you're watching on YouTube, you will see just how, what is going on in each of these years. 00:09:42:20 - 00:10:01:29 Nick Clason It'll be kind of a little bit, trip back down memory lane, especially if you're older and you're a millennial, like me or older. But in 2011, the word of the year by Oxford Dictionary was app. In 2012, it was cloud, 2013, it was a hashtag, followed by 2014, which was the selfie 2015. Look at this on screen. 00:10:01:29 - 00:10:24:27 Nick Clason If you're watching, it's the face with tears of joy emoji. It's not even a word. It was literally an emoji. 2016 the word was post-truth. 2017 the word was fake news. 2018 the word was toxic. 2019 is climate energy. In 2020, there's a myriad of words Covid 19 lockdowns, social distancing, ISO, Black Lives Matter, cancel culture and superspreader. 00:10:25:03 - 00:10:52:09 Nick Clason You take your pick of which word matter. But that right there just shows how global and how how much Generation Alpha has actually gone through. So when the only screen in the house think about this was the television. You and I, as parents, we could more easily monitor what our children consumed and watch. But now with a new digital generation with more access to online devices, parents are finding it harder and harder to shield children from the wider world. 00:10:52:12 - 00:11:23:04 Nick Clason Characteristic number four is that they are mobile, right? The average, stay in one working job has shortened now to just about over three years. The gig economy, which is when organizations will use temporary hires, and independent workers, that gig economy mentality that begins to play a part in this new generation, the world economic Forum predicts that 65% of Generation Alpha will actually end up working entirely new jobs that don't even exist yet. 00:11:23:04 - 00:12:00:26 Nick Clason They're incredibly mobile, and they're able to be to pivot and to move and be nimble and and kind of string together different opportunities. Far be it away from the way that we as older generations have, have taken it with pensions and retirements and all these types of things like that is becoming a more archaic way of working. And characteristic number five is this generation is incredibly visual, with stories and games have come to life for Generation Alpha students, are facilitated by things like technology and visual apps and videos and content in which they regularly engage with. 00:12:00:28 - 00:12:23:07 Nick Clason Generation Alpha expects to consume information. YouTube is the second largest and most popular search engine in the world, but for Generation Alpha, YouTube is the number one search engine in the world. And so that idea of visual is just going to continue. But here's the good news if you're an youth minister, your for your education, or if you're in church ministry, you don't have to panic, right? 00:12:23:07 - 00:12:51:25 Nick Clason Because the generations older than us that say Generation Alpha is doomed. We as educators and as people in youth ministry who often go before, have had generations before us freak out about different generations. You and I, we have the opportunity to stand in the gap and help bring these together. Right? All the way back to Socrates. generations have been freaking out about and looking ahead at the different generation and curious about and unsure of what's different. 00:12:51:25 - 00:13:18:05 Nick Clason But these things, all of us are aware at the different and the shifting and the ever changing landscape of generations. You and I, as youth pastors, we're well aware of this at one level or another. So how do we, with this information, also make us more effective as educators, as teachers, as pastors in reaching and sharing the gospel with these students in our churches and in our youth ministries. 00:13:18:08 - 00:13:36:13 Nick Clason You know, I actually have just the resources to help you out with that's linked right here on screen in the very next video. I'm glad that you asked, because I would love for you to take a look at that. And as always, don't forget we're making digital discipleship easy, possible, and accessible, especially for Generation Alpha. So stay hybrid.

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Hey, everyone, welcome to the Hybrid Ministry Show. And in this episode we're going to talk about better event promotion as well as a holistic digital and social media approach for your church and your youth ministry. And this is actually part two. Part one is linked right here at the top of the screen over on another channel, because we're doing a massive mash up collab. 00;00;24;28 - 00;00;49;07 Nick Clason And I am joined today by my friend Erik with the K Erik. Erik w/a "k" Williams Good morning bro. How you doing? Good to see you Nick. So excited to be on your channel. Love what you're doing bro. So so good. Yeah, well if you weren't listening or privy to the conversation that we just clicked stop and now rerecord on, we talked through an entire, like, outreach strategy, right? 00;00;49;08 - 00;01;08;17 Nick Clason Yeah, well if you weren't listening or privy to the conversation that we just clicked stop and now rerecord on, we talked through an entire, like, outreach strategy, right? You gave out a bunch of games. You gave out a full run sheet on, like how to do a great outreach style event at your church. And one major piece, right? In all of that, in churches and in youth ministry is promotion. We want people to come to our event. It's natural. It's a human nature, you know what I mean? 00;01;08;20 - 00;01;31;07 Nick Clason And so one of the ways that we're always trying to get people to come to our event is through social media. Yeah. Is that not a normal like strategies and a normal thought process? Erik, for the average American youth pastor. Erik w/a "k" Williams Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm totally I've totally used social media to promote events like for a long time. Yeah. 00;01;31;13 - 00;02;03;02 Nick Clason And is it effective? Erik w/a "k" Williams I don't see a lot of likes on those posts. Yeah. And, I don't know, I'm not seeing, sharing and whatever. Yeah, I think I think it's just if, like if you look at in the past, a lot of my social media stuff for youth ministry, it tends to be mostly promotional. Okay. And watching your channel, one of the things I've learned is that's not a great idea because then it's just promotion. 00;02;03;02 - 00;02;25;00 Erik w/a "k" Williams And it's not like, hey, because I looked at this, I'm going to get 20% off my next event, right? Right. It's just an announcement. Yeah, yeah. And that's what I am trying to steer youth pastors, church communicators away from, because if we're not careful, we're going to view social media as another announcement channel. And it's really not built for that. 00;02;25;00 - 00;02;46;06 Nick Clason And if you treat it that way, it's not going to be incredibly successful. And so you should still get the word out and you can still use social media. But before you do, I want you to tweak and adjust your strategy on it. And so the first I have three ideas for better event promotion for your event, Erik, that we just talked through. 00;02;46;14 - 00;03;07;00 Nick Clason The first one is don't post announcements announcing announcing it on social media. And what I mean by that in particular, because I'm going to get a little nuanced here, is I still think you can and should announce it, but don't just post your graphic that you cooked up on Canva or on Instagram Stories or wherever you cooked it up. 00;03;07;00 - 00;03;27;22 Nick Clason Like, don't just post that because you will probably see as you see, as you said, two, three, six likes on it and likes aren't the only metric, you know, get the word across. Of course, like people will still see it. But you got to think about, our habits. Why do you, Erik, why do you get on social media? 00;03;27;24 - 00;03;48;25 Erik w/a "k" Williams I want to be entertained, all right? I want to catch up with people, but I want to. I want to be entertained. That's. It's one of the things I love scrolling. Super. Particularly scrolling through videos. Right? Is I want it to be funny. Yeah, yeah. And, if you're watching this live, the month of August, your download youth ministry, I think it's like, God, an up or maybe silver and on up. 00;03;48;27 - 00;04;04;17 Nick Clason I provided the mystery item for the members, and it was a let's go free e-book on how to crush your social media. And so one of the concepts in there, and if you know you're not a member or you missed the download perk, I'll drop a link in there. You can get it for just a few bucks, down below in the description. 00;04;04;17 - 00;04;27;05 Nick Clason But one of the stats I included is that reels or short form vertical video TikTok style videos account for get this 90% of the internet's traffic. And so you're right, we get on social media to to be entertained or even to be inspired, maybe learn some stuff, but we don't get on there to catch up on our announcements, to catch up on what's the latest on our church. 00;04;27;05 - 00;04;52;20 Nick Clason So stop posting static announcement graphics and start posting the types of content that people get on social media for i.e short form vertical based video. If you make it less than 60 seconds, you can post it on any of your social platforms including Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and even YouTube shorts. And so if you are going to post about an event, I would recommend two styles of posts. 00;04;52;20 - 00;05;13;29 Erik w/a "k" Williams So there's one. It's like the cap cut meme. Have you seen this before? The different cap cut style memes? absolutely. Lovely. I'm not. I haven't really gotten into using them yet much. Yeah, but I love I love using that like the, the the one where the guy who is The Mandalorian, I forget his name. Yeah. where he's laughing. 00;05;13;29 - 00;05;32;05 Nick Clason Yep. Like really hard with that other guy. Like, I love that meme where you, you can put stuff in the background, right? Because it's kind of green screen concept. so, so good. Yeah. So find a way to, to catch the wave of a trending kind of like cap cut meme. And if you don't know, ask one of your teenagers, they'll help you. 00;05;32;08 - 00;05;53;15 Erik w/a "k" Williams Speaking of speaking of cap cut, like, That's something. Now I use Final Cut to do most of my video editing. Yep. But when I'm doing, stuff with my phone, like, I do, like, screen like words on the screen, all that stuff, I use cap cut all the time. So last year I decided to invest in paying for it's a yearly fee. 00;05;53;18 - 00;06;19;17 Erik w/a "k" Williams I think it's like 75 bucks. Typically. They almost always have some sort of save a certain percentage off. So I paid 50 bucks last year. I just got a reminder that my subscriptions almost out. So they're giving me a 36%, 34, 36% off of the yearly yearly fee. So grab those, grab those discounts when you can. But for me, it's been a totally worth it expense because I use it all the time. 00;06;19;20 - 00;06;39;27 Nick Clason Yeah. And and I don't pay for it. My youth, ministry, doesn't pay for it. So I'm still using the free version, and you can still get a lot out of of cap cut, even if you don't want to go that paid for out. So the other one, the other idea I have, and these are like on the rise right now with in churches and stuff, are the like, transition videos. 00;06;39;29 - 00;07;00;07 Nick Clason and I don't know the other way to, to describe them, but essentially it starts with, a video like, a popular video of some sort. And the one I've seen a lot recently is the guy running away from, like, a bull in the streets. It must be like a running of the bulls thing in Spain or whatever, and he gets speared in the back and so on screen. 00;07;00;07 - 00;07;22;07 Nick Clason You see, this guy just gets speared right in the back and just fly forward, and then it cuts out to your church or another church and some dude or girl getting, I guess, jumping or thrown into like the row of chairs. And then they like, you know, get up all, like, hurt and then turn around, look at the camera and they invite, you know, invite to church. 00;07;22;07 - 00;07;40;23 Nick Clason And so there are, you know, a bunch of different ones of those. And I discovered there's so many more than I even thought, because I got on one of my accounts and I started just kind of creating a library of them, sharing them over to my church account. And the more I shared them, the more the algorithm kept feeding me those. 00;07;40;25 - 00;08;04;07 Nick Clason And so now I've gone around with students and stuff and I'm like, hey, film this, walk into this chair or dive into these. These couches, or, you know, we'll spill one of the other ones. There's like a baby puking on screen and you see all the puke come out and then it like it dive the the milk dumps into the cup and you hear the little splash, and then someone takes a drink of it and it's like there's always free coffee at church. 00;08;04;07 - 00;08;27;02 Erik w/a "k" Williams Something like that. Like, oh, so gross, so gross, but so funny. And, really, really popular right now. And so that's another way to invite someone to your event, but again, in a way that leans into what social media is built for and made for. Yeah, I love the one where somebody is running and jumping does like a cannonball into into, a pool. 00;08;27;08 - 00;08;53;03 Erik w/a "k" Williams Yeah. And then the next scene is like sugar cube dropping into a cup and it's like, yeah, like much smaller. Yeah. They're just funny. And again, you can still get the word out, but with like a little tweak. Right, a little adjustment. Don't just post your cooked up Canva graphic but include faces on social media include entertainment and entertainment style elements on social media. 00;08;53;03 - 00;09;10;27 Nick Clason So that's that's my first kind of point. Do you have anything else to add there before we I just say, Erik w/a "k" Williams you know, you just said it in to include faces like students love to see themselves. Yep. I think that's brilliant. The more you can get students in there instead of just you same face over and over, talking head kind of thing all the time. 00;09;10;29 - 00;09;27;21 Erik w/a "k" Williams I think that's brilliant. I love that dude. Yeah. And in addition to my doing my book, I got one here on my channel as well. It's free. It's down. The show notes. It will lay out this whole, this whole thing. So if you haven't grabbed it yet, go check that out. My site. I just want to support that, by the way, because that's I've downloaded that. 00;09;27;21 - 00;09;54;18 Erik w/a "k" Williams That's been super, super helpful to me. You give so much inside of that e-book, bro. I absolutely love it. Well I appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm sure help churches do better and get the word out that. What's up everyone Nicholas in here hopping into the middle of this episode to say that as I was ending it, I got this idea that I just wanted to give you my top six favorite transition videos and my top six favorite cap cut template. 00;09;54;18 - 00;10;14;10 Nick Clason So if you hit up the link down below in the description and YouTube, it will give you a word document. it will just, the form will drop it into a drop box for download that word document, and it will give you six links to the Instagram videos, six links to the cap cut videos, as well as websites that you can use. 00;10;14;10 - 00;10;37;22 Nick Clason Once you post those to either TikTok or to Instagram that you can download directly from that social channel, and then repost it without the tick tock or Instagram Reels watermark. out to Facebook or YouTube or wherever else you want to cross post things. I hope it's helpful to use these in your next event promotion. Without any further ado, back to the rest of them. 00;10;37;23 - 00;10;56;22 Nick Clason So that's the whole goal of it. Yeah. Speaking. Getting better, getting the word out. write better emails. People like, if you're anything like me or any of the churches I've been in, we've done things like, you know, such and such church weekly student ministry update. And then in that, of course, you're like announcing your back to school event. 00;10;56;22 - 00;11;17;29 Nick Clason You're announcing your costume party around Halloween time, you're announcing your Friendsgiving event. But nobody, who doesn't if they don't open the email, they don't read that content, they don't see it. And so it misses them. And so a new idea I had, and this is relevant because it just happened to me this week at our church, in our children's ministry. 00;11;18;02 - 00;11;39;00 Nick Clason They were having an event I didn't know about. And the the subject is, you know, my church's kids ministry update, and I never read them. Guilty. All right, I work there. I'm a dad of kids in the ministry, but I never read them because I figure there's really nothing new in there. But there was something new, but I didn't open it. 00;11;39;02 - 00;11;54;09 Nick Clason And you can look at it two ways. I'm I'm to blame or they're to blame. And most churches would be like, I'm to blame because they look back at open rates and they see that they're really low and they're like, well, you don't know what's going on because you don't open it. All of that is true. Guilty as charged. 00;11;54;12 - 00;12;30;06 Nick Clason However, no, this most open rates, like a good open rate for like a business is like in the 20 to 30%. And so if you're a church, yeah, you're probably higher than that. But if you start putting some of what's going on, even in the subject of the email, even if people don't open it, then if their eyes ever glance through their inbox and they ignore your emails, but they still take a glance or a gander over at the subject, they'll at least be aware of what's going on in your in your youth ministry, and so you can prevent your outreach event to your parents and to any of the students who are subscribed to 00;12;30;06 - 00;12;51;22 Erik w/a "k" Williams your email list with just better subjects and intake in inside of that when they open the email. Because, I mean, I've been guilty of this. I've seen I've been on emails from churches that it feels like I mean, you've got a template which I think is good to have a template. So you have to keep recreating something every single week. 00;12;51;24 - 00;13;15;06 Nick Clason But it sometimes it can feel like I've seen all this information every single week. so I don't even bother opening. Yeah. Anything you could do to to kind of freshen inside of the email. Yeah. I mean, and you don't want to get clickbaity or sensational, right. But the more interesting your subject is, the the the more prone people are to open it. 00;13;15;09 - 00;13;33;08 Nick Clason Keep in mind, too, that people want to people want to just like, social media. They want to interact with people. So if they're getting it from your ministry, like they they may be a bot in parent or student that wants to know what's going on in your ministry, but that's not enticing to them to correspond with the brand of your ministry. 00;13;33;11 - 00;13;52;19 Nick Clason So send it from your name. Send it from your senior pastor's name. Like those types of things, you will see an uptick in engagement in that way. If it feels personal, like they're getting an email from a person as opposed to getting an email from an organization. So. Good. Yeah. the third thing, and I don't want to belabor it because we did we hit it in your episode. 00;13;52;19 - 00;14;15;24 Nick Clason So go check that out. But really, I think the key to getting more people to your event, beyond just promoting it on social media, is really like creating a culture of invite, where students from your church will invite their friends to your church and you got to build that culture and over time it's going to take time. So if you're brand new, like just keep working it, keep working the soil, keep doing the thing. 00;14;15;27 - 00;14;36;05 Nick Clason Create a safe space that your students know they can trust you. If they bring a friend to an event, you're not going to do something weird on them, and you got to do that a few times to prove it, to prove to your students that you're going to do that. But then eventually they'll start to realize that, like, oh, this is going to be a safe place and a safe event for me to bring my friend to. 00;14;36;07 - 00;14;57;26 Nick Clason And they will start bringing students. And you know how it is like a word of mouth invite is so much more valuable than, static graphic that they scroll across on social media. Yeah, I think I think so. I mean, if you're if you run lame events, that word is going to get out to a. Right. So you want it's got to be a good event and that invite culture. 00;14;57;26 - 00;15;24;00 Erik w/a "k" Williams I think is an interesting conversation. And I just want to say a real quick thing about it. Nick. Yeah, is I remember when I came to a church and, we had this annual event that had been happening for a long time, and, the high schoolers were coming because it's really, like, competitive. experience. So there was there was like, students were showing up no matter what. 00;15;24;03 - 00;15;58;19 Erik w/a "k" Williams But the middle schoolers, we hardly had any middle schoolers that were showing up. And so we talked about that, like, why is that? But there wasn't a there wasn't a culture of invitation. So we at that, that meant we had to do groundwork within the youth ministry to go, okay, there's an importance for our students that come regularly to understand they they need to be inviting their friends, because this is an easy, open opportunity for them to be able to share their faith with their friends by letting somebody else kind of set the groundwork for it. 00;15;58;19 - 00;16;14;06 Erik w/a "k" Williams They show up to something fun. Then they have this conversation, then in the car ride home or whatever. Hey, I know we had a lot of fun with some highlights, but but it was so fun. Were telling your parents whatever, but what was something that you heard the the youth pastor talk about this? What did you think about that. 00;16;14;09 - 00;16;39;09 Erik w/a "k" Williams Yeah. And then having that conversation. So setting them up for success, if you will, rather than just show up and and do it and then don't ever talk about it again. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. And that's, that's just going to take time. And if students are not bringing their friends to events, then maybe ask them why they're not and be prepared for the gut check of their honesty. 00;16;39;11 - 00;16;57;16 Nick Clason yeah. But they'll be if they're honest with you. That is just absolutely good information that you have to, like, grab Ahold of, take to the bank, and then try and figure out what you need to do to create more of a culture of invite. So, so good. Well, here's the thing, Erik. Right. So like, we just we promoted this event. 00;16;57;16 - 00;17;20;20 Nick Clason We did a few like fun Instagram Reels. We did a few different like, emails. And we got students inviting students. But my my recommendation is more than just like a blitz. Like a marketing blitz on your social media for your upcoming Back to School bash, your upcoming Halloween party, your upcoming fill in the blank whatever event. Like you should be doing this on a holistic strategy, you know? 00;17;20;20 - 00;17;40;09 Nick Clason And in the book that I referenced earlier, I lay out a very detailed and very like high level strategy, like it's it's a high bar and it's often and it's like a full time job. But recently episode 106, I'll link it down below in the show notes. I scaled it back and that's what I also put in, like my doing my book as well. 00;17;40;09 - 00;18;08;03 Erik w/a "k" Williams And I said, hey, listen, if you're just getting going like focus on three times a week and I think three times a week is much more attainable for youth pastors. And I would guess, and I love you to speak into this. Like, I would guess that most youth pastors can look around and see other social media accounts are doing well and want to do that, but are just thinking, bro, I don't have the time. 00;18;08;06 - 00;18;24;04 Nick Clason And I would imagine that that's the boat that most youth pastors are and would. Would you agree with that or disagree with. Absolutely. I, I think of that for just myself. Like if I'm going, man, five days a week, I mean, there's so much to do. Three days a week feels a little more a little more comfortable. Yeah. 00;18;24;05 - 00;18;44;27 Erik w/a "k" Williams I'm a big fan of like batch recording where you just I'm just going to take an hour on Monday and I'm going to record these three videos. Yeah. And then take the time. I mean, it does take time, right? But like some of those cap cup meme videos, that's not that's not much time at all. You're just kind of putting that information in and taking something that's already been used. 00;18;44;27 - 00;19;06;24 Erik w/a "k" Williams And on the green screen you drop your information and like that's that's more simple. But I love I mean, dude, you're crushing it with how you do it with your youth ministry. I love like the, the, drafting videos and the seven seven questions to try to figure out what is it? I'm thinking of those those kind of things I think are so brilliant. 00;19;06;26 - 00;19;28;21 Erik w/a "k" Williams It takes some time, but if you batch it, record it, do it all in one day, like I know on Instagram you can schedule videos to, to, to, to, yeah to go at specific times and dates and all that stuff. Yeah. So it takes time. But I think it's important and there has to be a, a belief in the value of it, for you to actually do it. 00;19;28;24 - 00;19;52;20 Erik w/a "k" Williams You're not going to see the return on your investment overnight. Yeah. That's a, that's again another time. Just like the invite culture. It's going to take time to build your channel and students getting on it. Yeah. But you get those students involved with it both on screen and owning the the shooting of the videos and editing. Because there's you're going to find students that are that like to do that even if they're decent. 00;19;52;22 - 00;20;17;27 Nick Clason Yeah. You can do some training with them. Yep. Give somebody some responsibility and go, hey, I want you to take on one of these a week or whatever. Yeah, that's on it. That's exactly right. And that's exactly what we've done. So I got it up and going all by myself. Proof of concept, sustainability, all these things. But now I've started recruiting other students, you know, and to your point, we just batch record. 00;20;17;27 - 00;20;37;00 Nick Clason So anytime it's a Wednesday night we'll we have a four week strategy now. So one week we'll do those draft style videos. If you're watching here on YouTube you can see some examples. and we'll film as many of those as we can with as many students as we can. So I like to walk out of the night with anywhere from 4 to 6 of these different style of videos. 00;20;37;03 - 00;20;55;12 Nick Clason Then the next week we'll do our seven question style video and same kind of concept as many students as we can. As many as we have time for will knock them out and, you know, get 4 to 6 in the hopper to edit later. we'll do the next week. I do like a man on the street style of walking out the microphone, interviewing kids or whatever. 00;20;55;12 - 00;21;10;29 Nick Clason And so that's getting out of our room that we film in and more like on the streets. You can kind of see what our youth ministry looks like and everything. And then the last one is we'll just walk around, we'll do this. Those transition style invite videos. So hey, this week we'll do the one where the kids getting rammed by a ball. 00;21;10;29 - 00;21;29;23 Nick Clason Next week we'll do the one with the the baby puking or whatever. And you do a few of those. You get. We got, last night, two nights ago, we got six of them, you know, in the hopper. And so. And I'm not doing that like, I got it set up. I got all the infrastructure built, but now I've handed it off to one of my students. 00;21;29;23 - 00;21;50;17 Erik w/a "k" Williams And so he's doing it while I'm running the youth ministry program out playing basketball on the courts. And he's somewhere else in the building filming these these videos and that. Then the night he hands me the camera, I pop out the SD card and we're off. We're off to the races. And the good news in all of that, right, is that you can train up students and they want to help with. 00;21;50;17 - 00;22;09;18 Nick Clason And when we look at it like the growing Young Study and Fuller Institute and all these things like keychain leadership is the key to sustained faith. So it shouldn't just be you as a youth pastor, like cooking all these things up, like bring about your leaders, bring about your volunteers, and and bring about your students, man. Like they want to help. 00;22;09;18 - 00;22;28;25 Erik w/a "k" Williams So let an A side side bonus on that. You start handing some of the stuff off to students. They some of them are going to get like an excitement for doing that. And it could build into something even more. I had a student who I taught him how to do some PowerPoint stuff this like early on, and then I showed him how to shoot and edit video. 00;22;28;26 - 00;22;53;02 Erik w/a "k" Williams Yeah, he went into marketing as a business. Yeah. Like all because he learned that stuff in youth group in middle school. Yeah. And the principles transferable beyond just social media, right. Like you might get kids are not interested in that, but they're interested in other things and isn't our job, as the apostle Paul puts it, to train the saints and equip them for works and acts of service. 00;22;53;02 - 00;23;10;21 Nick Clason It's not our job to do all the works and acts of service. And so in the same vein, while social media feels like this maybe foreign kind of concept punch fear in the face just get started. And like I said, link down below. Episode 106. I'll detail an outline how to do all of that and just get those steps taken. 00;23;10;25 - 00;23;32;22 Nick Clason Love it. Anything else? Erik, before we wrap this week up, Erik w/a "k" Williams I just say on the social media world, just just make a decision to do it. Like John, John Acuff is a guy I love to read and listen to. He talks about the hardest part about running is putting your shoes on. Once you put your shoes on, you're committed. 00;23;32;25 - 00;23;53;11 Erik w/a "k" Williams Actually, when he's going to run in the morning, he puts his whole running outfit on the floor the night before. And then when you put your shoes on, that means you're going to actually run. So I'd say pick up your phone and, you know, sketch a few ideas and then go actually do it. Yeah. And then you start getting into a rhythm and it becomes a lot easier once you get into a rhythm of it. 00;23;53;18 - 00;24;12;06 Nick Clason Yeah, that's 100% right. Well hey everyone, so glad that you made it all the way to the end. if you haven't, go check out part one. Erik's got a bunch of freebies there. And youth ministry, you're definitely going to want those. Those are premium level freebies. But until next time, and as always, stay hybrid. See you.

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Welcome back to another episode of the Hybrid Ministry show. I, as always my host Nick Klassen. And I'm really excited. Today I got the one and only Josh Boldman who works at Diam now. He also has years of experience in youth ministry. And so we are going to interview Josh today. What's up everybody? I'm here with Josh Boldman. Josh how you doing this morning bro? 00:00:23:04 - 00:00:44:07 Josh Boldman I am good man. How are you doing I'm great. I'm glad to have you on Nick Clason the long awaited Josh Boldman interview. Josh Boldman Most podcasts are still waiting. I just wanted to make it very clear. Nick Clason Oh man, I feel like I'm in an exclusive club. Yeah, or something. Josh Boldman So they just don't know. They don't know it yet, but they're still waiting. 00:00:44:07 - 00:01:10:12 Nick Clason Yeah, they definitely are. But not me. Not us. Josh, like, tell the people, how did. Who are you and how did you get to where you are today? Josh Boldman Oh my gosh. Okay. That is it all started on a cold with. No. okay. So I have, right there. So I'll start with where I'm at. right now I am I am the team lead for co-leader, which is, a part of the download Youth Ministry family. 00:01:10:14 - 00:01:39:17 Josh Boldman I also, run lead in the sidekick arena, which is our presentation software. We'll get to that. but that's only been for about the last year. before that, I spent, somewhere in the neighborhood of. Right at about 20 years in student ministry, as a youth pastor or youth minister or student pastor or student ministries director, or any of the other myriad ways that you can you can describe it. 00:01:39:19 - 00:02:03:18 Josh Boldman but I did that. Gosh, from Florida, to Illinois, to, tiny, tiny little churches to big old churches to, single site to multi-site to we do youth ministry on Sunday morning to we do youth ministry on Wednesday nights like normal people do. all that, you know, so, you know, it's just kind of been all over the place. 00:02:03:24 - 00:02:27:24 Josh Boldman Yeah. but for the last ten, I'll say ten. It's probably like six, but I'll say ten years. I pastor mother, with Dwight. Yeah. It's like, how many kids were there? The 400. I don't know, it was too many to count. but yeah. So I, I've been an author with Tim, putting resources like games and teaching content and countdowns and videos and stuff together for DYM. 00:02:27:27 - 00:02:47:11 Josh Boldman And then about a year ago, they had somebody that was going on maternity leave and they're like, hey, you want to cover for that person? I was like, yeah, yeah, I do. And then I spent all 90 days of that maternity leave, trying to make it where there was literally no way they could let me go afterward. 00:02:47:11 - 00:03:08:12 Nick Clason And it it worked nice. Josh Boldman Absolutely worked. I was it was dicey for about about 45 days. And then I was like, nah, I think I got I think, I think I got this. So she came back and I was not asked to pack up and leave. so that has worked out for everybody. Yeah. You didn't put her on the job either? 00:03:08:12 - 00:03:31:27 Josh Boldman No, no, it's kind of great. Yeah. So, you know, it's been it's been a ride. this last year, co-leader has transitioned from a, a platform where you can plan ministry to a full blown annual curriculum. we've launched sidekick. sidekick, which is now in beta. we had Sidekick Legacy, which was a standalone app. 00:03:31:27 - 00:03:53:26 Josh Boldman Now it's built in the browser. So you open it in Chrome and you can you can play. You know, play your presentation literally anywhere. we did that all with any I mean, it's like literally anything we could have done, we we decided we were like, hey, you know what? If we just take everything we ever want to do and we just jam it all into one calendar year, and we got this. 00:03:53:27 - 00:04:08:28 Nick Clason Yeah, we got this guy now who's covering for this girl on maternity leave, and now we can. We had him go. So we're we need to get our money's worth out of him. That's there. Like, we have so many staff. We have so we have so many. And now, now we need to have them do things, so. 00:04:08:28 - 00:04:30:10 Nick Clason Oh, man, I gotta say the like this, I don't there's no pitch. Like, no, like kickback. None of this. I love co-leader and I love sidekick. And, we, I made our church and I think I told you this, but we'll tell everyone I was like, I made our church by two computers so that we could run pro presenter. 00:04:30:10 - 00:04:52:19 Nick Clason Because the musicians need the confidence monitor, like the not not what's on the screen mirror, but like what's coming. So like what? So that's valid. Josh Boldman So they don't practice is what you're telling me. Nick Clason Exactly. They're ill prepared. So I had to give them what they needed at the give the musicians you know, throw my bone. But I made them buy another computer and a like a black magic video switcher. 00:04:52:19 - 00:05:11:04 Josh Boldman And we running everything else now. Yeah. Off of sidekick. And so, so, so what I'm hearing you say is because of the worship ministry, you guys have to rely on dark magic. Is that. What is that where he is? Oh, black. Matt. Oh, it's a black. It's a company that's different. Okay. All right. I mean, I wouldn't have been surprised either. 00:05:11:11 - 00:05:37:06 Nick Clason Yeah, yeah, either way. But I love the like I love a lot of things about it. But my favorite part about it is the phone integration. Right. And, we played last week like a game like, multiple choice game. And they could literally play on their phones. And this was the first time I'd, I'd use that particular, like, setting there and sidekick, like the, the question with, with the quiz like type of. 00:05:37:08 - 00:06:02:05 Nick Clason Yeah. Like what the correct answer. Yes. Yes. And I loved that. That was super fun. so talk to me just a little bit about, like, you know, you jump in. Were there rumblings and plans about sidekick being revamped or did you see some of like those opportunities and be like, this is what I see in youth ministry as a youth pastor, 20 plus years and now, yeah, I want to help kind of evolve it to the next stage, like give us that kind of background. 00:06:02:08 - 00:06:26:01 Josh Boldman Yeah. So something that, I it's really funny because I don't know that many youth workers realize, although I feel like we should is that, software development takes billions of dollars and lots and lots of time. and so, so when I started at downloading Ministry, the plan had already been. We are revamping sidekick. I'm. You know, I'm just gonna peel back the curtain, you know? 00:06:26:01 - 00:06:50:24 Josh Boldman You don't know. Yeah. Sorry. I took the original app. All right. Was written in a, in a programing environment that got depreciate. All right, so it is. It was built long, so it was built on something called chromium. and it it it is a like sidekick. Legacy is a work of art. Like it is a it was a game changer for me when I was in ministry. 00:06:50:24 - 00:07:14:13 Josh Boldman The the spinning wheel boxes. Yeah. it was one of a kind. No one was. Oh, my gosh, nobody was doing it right. And then, what happened about two years ago, maybe three years ago now is chromium got depreciated. And we realized what that meant was there was now no way to update the legacy. I don't know at all, like, impossible, like literally impossible. 00:07:14:16 - 00:07:31:17 Josh Boldman And and so it was like, okay, well, we can either rebuild a new one or we can take it in a different direction. And one of the really things that people that people hated was every time you open the legacy app, you have to sign in every single time you had to type in the password. It was a great time. 00:07:31:20 - 00:07:52:23 Josh Boldman I got into trouble. One time I was in front of our, like our whole camp, like it was like a thousand kids, right? And sidekick was running, and then it crashed. And then they had to reopen it, and they're like, from the booth, they yell out, what's the password? No. And in front of 1000 students, I had to say a password into the microphone. 00:07:52:23 - 00:08:14:14 Josh Boldman And here's the best part. You ready for this? It was the same password for everything. Like my my bank account and, all this stuff. So, like, so like, I immediately I started teaching, and then I get off stage and I'm like, I gotta change every password I mean, ever had. It was a nightmare. so we thought, okay, what is the best way to make this as portable as possible? 00:08:14:14 - 00:08:33:01 Josh Boldman So we went with putting it in, in the browser. Yeah. which I'll be honest, I mean, it was basically like it was a trade off, right? It gave us a lot of, functionality as far as portability, as far as far as syncing. Yeah. but it there are trade offs, right? Like Google Chrome. both. 00:08:33:01 - 00:08:52:11 Josh Boldman Google. Safari, Apple. you know, Firefox, they all have different rules about like window management. And so like you'll know like when you open sidekick and you go to present, you have to drag the window over to your other browser. Like that's not ideal right now. We that's why we have a video switcher now that's why. Right. 00:08:52:13 - 00:09:22:11 Josh Boldman Yeah. That's why we that's why we as Christians rely on dark black magic. Black. It's that's what it is. and so, so, you know, so there are some trade offs for sure. For sure. But, but what we started realizing was, the, the pitch that we started telling people that when it, I think it really kind of clicked for people how how different was good is we would tell them, like, we would show them what we could do with, with voting, with spinning wheel, with, with pick me like the main ideas. 00:09:22:14 - 00:09:41:11 Josh Boldman And I said, what's really cool is I can create this presentation. I can, immediately, as soon as I add an element to a slide, I can close the laptop, I can break it over my knee, I can set it on fire and throw it in the ocean. And then I can just go to church, open the computer, and it's it's there like it is there. 00:09:41:12 - 00:10:03:18 Josh Boldman It does not miss a beat. you probably have to like on the computer at church, though, because yours is God's an ocean. Oh yeah. No no no no. Yeah. There's no recovering from it really at the point. Not sidekicks. Not that good yet. Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. but. Yeah. So so it's, Yeah, it's it's being able to sync and being able to to go remote. 00:10:03:25 - 00:10:28:19 Josh Boldman That's awesome. But then when we started showing people, hey, all you have to do is the same thing you did to log in on your computer, do that on your phone. And what it does is it turns your phone into a remote for the exact same presentation that's running on your presentation computer. and I mean, just suddenly being able to when you're doing polls on your phone, you can see the results, before they're even shown on the screen. 00:10:28:22 - 00:10:57:09 Josh Boldman you can go to next, go back. You can do slide notes. You can. I mean, it did really any of the functionality that's there except for editing on the computer. You can do that literally on your phone in real time because I don't know if you've ever I'm certainly you've never been in this situation where you have a sixth grader who is so well intentioned is like, I want to run the computer and you're like, yes, that is a that is a thing a sixth grader can do. 00:10:57:09 - 00:11:26:24 Josh Boldman You can hit the spacebar. Yeah. And and then, and then they, and then they don't, they, they just don't hit the spacebar. And so like I would always use it as just like my, my phone was, I wasn't there. So I was running it, but it was my fallback. Like I was like, okay, that kid in the back, there was one time, I swear to you, right, at an unnamed church that I worked at for a while. 00:11:26:27 - 00:11:51:12 Josh Boldman I remember once, so I would always try, so I was a student ministry director there, and so I always I would always try, like, I would. Yeah, I was either teaching or whatever, but I would always try to do anytime I wasn't teaching, I would try to do something else. So like anytime I wasn't teaching, I would be in the booth or the, you know, doing the game or, you know, but so there's one time I'm in the booth and, and the lyrics for the songs are not firing on time. 00:11:51:12 - 00:12:18:01 Josh Boldman And I, so I'm like, leaning over and I'm looking. The kid is watching Star Wars the movie. Like, like an actual movie on his phone. Not a TikTok, not a YouTube. No. The two hour movie, two hour movie with subtitles. And he is holding his phone like screamed. Is it because the subtitles are so small? And I'm like, hey, I know, I know, you're looking at that because words are important. 00:12:18:03 - 00:12:38:25 Josh Boldman However, everyone else in the room is looking up here because words are important. So maybe I don't know, I don't know, that's just jump up and just jump on that. That's a win right there. Yeah. So but being able to you know when you're on stage and things go wrong there are like a couple of options. And and one of them is to make the person in the booth feel really bad. 00:12:38:25 - 00:13:00:09 Nick Clason And that is never the right option. Right. It's never to call attention to the person messed up. But we want to sometimes. Oh oh yes, yes, yes we do. But being able to just say, okay, I've got my phone here. Hey, Mr. Cube, don't worry, I'm just going to jump it like, yeah, was that was the game changer for me. 00:13:00:11 - 00:13:22:15 Josh Boldman and so now we're just on this journey of trying to reach full parity between the legacy version and what is right now, the lovingly called the beta version of sidekick. until it until it has all the same features. yeah. But what we're finding is that is, like I said, the original The legacy is a work of art. 00:13:22:17 - 00:13:47:09 Josh Boldman And, right now, we are working on boxes and that is in the browser proving to be a challenging. Yeah, it is, it's just, you know, it's one of those things like, you wouldn't think like even when we first, the first go around, we did, wheel and pick me. Right. Those were the first two things. And so with the wheel, you know, you think how this is, it's a spinning wheel. 00:13:47:10 - 00:14:04:24 Josh Boldman Like there's no. Yeah, there's nothing complicated here. Oh, but there is, friend, because pixels are square. Yeah. I don't know if you knew that or not, but pixels was great. So when you try and rotate them around and center axis that's a. Yeah. It's just it's one of those things like, you know, you think you got it. 00:14:04:24 - 00:14:21:03 Josh Boldman And then suddenly you're like, oh, that looks really bad. And so then it just it's like you have to go right back to the drawing board and, and so, so yeah. So right now we're working on boxes. It's, it's taking a little longer than we had hoped, but but you're working with square pixels now. So square pixels. 00:14:21:06 - 00:14:35:10 Josh Boldman We know what we're doing. Yeah. Yes. Wouldn't it be funny if like, in the like when, when it was the wheel, we had a problem because it was squares. But then like we're like, alright, now we're going to move the boxes and like just the world, like was like, you know what we figured out round pixels are better. 00:14:35:12 - 00:14:57:21 Josh Boldman And I was like, no, no. Yeah. But but yeah. So we're that. So we got boxes, in the pipeline. we're we, we here and I know anybody that knows sidekick already. Their first question that they have been asking is what about, survey says, which is our family feud builder. Right. And, that one is, it's coming. 00:14:57:21 - 00:15:19:27 Josh Boldman It's like, but it's it is it all takes a yeah, it all takes time. And, so, best way anybody, anybody that, you know, can help me go to sidekick.TV. There's a link there where you can, you can submit ideas and requests and you can even vote on other people's. And and that always helps us know kind of what's next. 00:15:19:29 - 00:15:36:15 Josh Boldman yeah. But yeah, we'll drop. That'll be. We're loving it, dude. I mean, and. Oh, I, I know the sound is starting to sound like a commercial and I apologize, but it's, it's it is. It's like it's just so fun is, when, when one of the most recent things we did was we connected everyone's dim accounts to the download youth ministry. 00:15:36:15 - 00:16:04:05 Josh Boldman If you buy something, there, he just automatically shows up. And that is that was awesome. Sweet. Because, I mean, it used to be, I don't know. I mean, you you make games for GM that are video based, right. And and when you do that those those files are massive. Like, you know, I mean, it's not uncommon for a game to be three, four gigabytes, you know, but it's also 3 or 4GB of, you know, that's 20, 30 videos for the game. 00:16:04:05 - 00:16:21:05 Josh Boldman And so then adding each of those in is kind of a nightmare. And so we figured out a way to do it is we do it on our end once and then it when you buy it, it just you can just it shows up in your library. You click on it and it's just in that is yeah, man, I'm telling you I will. 00:16:21:08 - 00:16:38:28 Josh Boldman I never have to worry about losing a thumb drive ever again. Yeah, because I don't know if you know this or not, but I don't know where my thumb drive it is right now. I lost it in 1997. so. Sounds like there are some important things on there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Knows it was, I don't know, something. 00:16:38:28 - 00:17:04:23 Josh Boldman Call it bitcoin. Bitcoin I don't remember. You could have been rich. You wouldn't even have to be here right now. Well I'll tell you what. Of all the things like all the things you're talking about, there's like, there's phone usage on both sides, right? So if you're presenting, you can use your phone as a remote, but if you're, you're, watching your in the audience, there are like integrations where there's like voting and games and all that stuff. 00:17:04:23 - 00:17:25:07 Nick Clason Yeah. And, I think that's my favorite part. Like as a youth pastor now for, over ten years, like I've always been trying to figure out how to get ourselves in youth ministry. Like relevant to our students are, as opposed to, like, when they're at church, make them do something that's so completely foreign to like their current culture. 00:17:25:07 - 00:17:56:28 Nick Clason Right? Like youth culture, like they're all messaging one another through their phones. They're all like consuming news articles and social media through their phones. And then we get to church and like the church I was at, like when I started the previous regime, no shade. but they had, like, phone lockers, like they would take kids cellphones and lock them and like, and what we're do, in my opinion, is like, okay, so we're, we're just trying to modify their behavior, but we haven't actually like change their true authentic like desire to like be here and listen. 00:17:56:28 - 00:18:19:26 Nick Clason We just want them quieter for us. And like that we should just be better. Like, yeah. And so y'all start rolling out all this stuff on sidekick. And I'm like, here's the opportunity for us to use what is native to them in our environment and in a way that doesn't, like, break the bank anymore, because to get some of these features through other third party like platforms, we just don't have the money. 00:18:19:26 - 00:18:45:09 Nick Clason As a youth pastor, you know what I'm saying? In your budget, whatever the case might be. So yeah, so that's my favorite part. And so I would love it if you would talk about not just necessarily like the sidekick integration, but what has been your experience and your unique perspective as a youth pastor with how what we've done in youth culture and how like we've then asked them to come to church culture and how they don't all they're like oil and water sometimes. 00:18:45:09 - 00:19:07:04 Nick Clason Like, how are we? How can we reach students better and to find ourselves where they are, which is online, on phones, all those things. Josh Boldman I mean, okay, so you remember, man, even I mean, when I was growing up and especially early in my ministry, you know, it was always the, the thing was, you were always fighting against like, like travel sports, right? 00:19:07:04 - 00:19:30:07 Josh Boldman Like that was like the, the, the bane of youth ministry existence was like, oh, we still are really, by the way. Oh, to be cool. Yeah. Oh, no doubt. But it was like, I don't know, there was like a point where I think we just we got tired of seeing no results from shame, shaming those kids. Like, it's like you want to play travel ball. 00:19:30:11 - 00:19:47:28 Josh Boldman We'll play travel ball. Yeah. With the devil. You know, it's like that. Doesn't like it doesn't help anybody. When? When all we're doing is. Or like. Like, oh, you have a phone, go lock it up because it's, you know, it's like that, doesn't it? Yeah. What does that do? All that does is like when you're locking up a kid's phone. 00:19:48:05 - 00:20:10:09 Josh Boldman I feel like the way that you can know that it's not working is as soon as the the time, like the lockdown is over, was the very first thing they do. They run to go get it. Yeah. Which means that it was, it was on their mind still. So it's not like you really saved you know them any, any trouble or any like you didn't gain anything by pulling it away, you know, because their attention is still stuck on it. 00:20:10:11 - 00:20:36:16 Josh Boldman so really what I think, I think is we're seeing right now in youth ministry as a whole, in, in what we're trying to do, a sidekick is really we're trying to figure out ways to engage students, literally where they are. And so, I guess, have you, did you ever do camps where the rule was the kids couldn't even bring their phone to camp? 00:20:36:18 - 00:20:59:04 Nick Clason I never did. No, I could have, right. But I never I always I've always run my own camp, so I make the rules. So. Yeah. And I've always been in churches or youth ministries where the goal is to bring kids who don't go to our church to camp. And like, I'm not going to get a kid and their family who's never met me, send their kid like hours away without a lifeline back to them. 00:20:59:04 - 00:21:24:10 Josh Boldman Oh yeah. Kids. Oh, no. So I've never tried to fight that battle, but it was fake because we used to almost use that, like as an advertisement. We were like, come to camp where you get away from your phone and kids are like, I don't want to do that, you know? And so, like, there was a point where I think maybe 20 years ago, you probably could do it, but even now, it's not even just the kid, it's the parents that are like, I'm not sending my kid without their phone. 00:21:24:10 - 00:21:58:02 Josh Boldman What's wrong with you? You know? Yeah. So, like, so what we decided to do with with sidekick is like, okay, what if instead of constantly harping on, he put your phone away or go lock it up or don't even bring it, or, you know, trying to make it seem like the phone itself was the enemy. What if we decided to say like, hey, we understand that that phone, it's an extension of you now like that just, I mean, and that, I mean, you know, I mean, I think you can get really, like, dystopian, you know, like, like Blade Runner type type vibes from, like, the phone is an extension of you, but but it is 00:21:58:03 - 00:22:21:24 Josh Boldman mine is an extension of me like, I mean, I literally if I, I don't know when the last time I walked out of my house without my phone was like, it's not just because I didn't forget it, it's because if it's not in my pocket, it feels like I'm missing something. I feel like I know I'm missing it, and you're gonna need it, you know, like, oh, sure, it's your calendar, it's your wallet, it's your navigation, it's your everything. 00:22:21:24 - 00:22:49:12 Nick Clason Like it. So you can't so much. That's my argument is like this. It's not going anywhere. So we can try our hardest as youth pastors and churches to fight against culture. But it's a losing battle eventually. And it's not like, oh, let's give in to culture because it's evil, right? No, no, no. It's how do we take this thing that is not moral, it's not morally right or morally wrong, but how do we take this thing and just use it as a tool? 00:22:49:12 - 00:23:07:12 Josh Boldman It's it's a tool, 100% tool that we we would have died for 15, 20 years ago, like, oh yeah, I was talking on the last episode like we didn't have group chats 15 years ago. If you want to talk to your student, you talk to them when they came to your building and that was it. But now you can do pastoral care. 00:23:07:12 - 00:23:39:02 Nick Clason You can, and just do a basic thing like texting. When I'm talking about something like software development right now. Yeah. So one of the things, that has been really cool to experiment with, and we've seen a couple people do this really well is is using like polls like, okay, so there's a there are different ways you can use it, but the like, so say as you're teaching, if, if you're saying something that you know is going to fly right over their heads, right? 00:23:39:05 - 00:24:11:11 Josh Boldman Pausing literally at that moment and asking the question, hey, did you catch that? And yes or no, like literally something super simple like, did you catch that? Yes or no? And then adjusting what you say next based on their response or, we've even seen people take their entire services in like a, choose your own adventure type approach where, I mean, it is it seems minor, but it's something like, hey, we've got the worship team has two songs that they prepared, but we're only going to do one. 00:24:11:13 - 00:24:29:15 Josh Boldman Hey, you all, they're here. Yeah. Which one you want to do? You know, or, you know, I've, done a couple teaching times where, like, so, you know, every youth pastor has, like, their, like, bag of tricks, like the, the saw or the stories that they tell that it's like, okay, I can tell this story, like drop of a hat. 00:24:29:15 - 00:25:00:17 Josh Boldman Yeah. you know, and so, like, I, I'll start with, like, right at the beginning of a message will say, hey, guys, I can tell you one of, three stories. You know, when when I got hit by a car, one when I accidentally killed my girlfriend's cat and one when I, when I stubbed my toe, you know, and so, like, you take your pick, you know, and just let them pick, and it doesn't change anything about where that message is going, but letting them have a moment where they can speak into it. 00:25:00:17 - 00:25:27:22 Josh Boldman Like, I guarantee you, when the room picks the story, the room pays attention to the story more. Yeah. or or even at the end, you know, be a great way to, to really, especially if you're trying to reach students that are not familiar with church a lot, you know, like that aren't around a lot is, at the end of the message just saying, like, hey, on a scale of 1 to 5, how much do you agree with what you just heard? 00:25:27:25 - 00:25:46:26 Josh Boldman can you met and live in live results on the screen like, hey, okay, so but can you imagine how much that might change your small group conversations that are going to happen right after the lesson? If if you suddenly see, like, oh, we just talked about this and 80% of the room says, I don't agree, okay, great. 00:25:47:03 - 00:26:10:20 Josh Boldman Then let's go to our small groups and let's see this mess out. You know, or I think that there's, there's stuff like that or or you could even say if you're doing a series, you could, you could say, hey, here are the four weeks of the series. we did the intro this week. Which one you want to hear about next week and let them pick where you're going to go, and then you have a whole week to figure out how to get there. 00:26:10:22 - 00:26:29:11 Josh Boldman yeah. But it but I guarantee you, those students that voted are going to be more likely to be there if they know what you're talking about. And they actually helped get to to choose what that was going to be. Yeah, I think I think there's a lot there. And we're working love to say like we're working like it's like in development, right, right now. 00:26:29:11 - 00:26:49:09 Josh Boldman But it's like I mean, one of the things on the, on the docket is, is, you know, being able to have students from their seat ask questions, be able to give feedback, you know, in real time so that you, as you're standing there on the, you know, platform with your phone that you're able to see the questions as they come in. 00:26:49:11 - 00:27:06:03 Josh Boldman we're trying to figure out things like how to moderate those things because I don't know about you, but if you ask open ended questions and just have the answers up on the screen without, you might get some filtering. Yeah. Inappropriate answer, I don't know, I don't know. I mean, my the students that I've ever worked with are always saints and so they would not do that. 00:27:06:03 - 00:27:30:01 Nick Clason But I would imagine yours. Well you know it's crazy is like here's another like just interesting youth culture is like I was working at a church in Chicago and it was very like it, it prided itself on we reach people who are far from God. And so, you know, that's going to come with a certain like, oh, I student and now I'm in the Bible Belt in Dallas, Texas. 00:27:30:08 - 00:27:55:00 Nick Clason And, it's like it prides itself on being like the church for Christians almost. And like the kids, the students, they're the same, like it's oh, no doubt. Right. That's the crazy thing is what the internet has done is it's leveled that like playing field of like, yeah, certain cultures, their youth culture is very consistent now and despite the demographic. 00:27:55:00 - 00:28:16:08 Nick Clason And so the unique part is not our students. The unique part is helping our parents understand, that the students are still the same, you know, so, you know, something, we've seen is actually really cool that somebody was doing was they were using the live polls in their lobby for parents to answer as they were dropping their kids off. 00:28:16:08 - 00:28:40:12 Josh Boldman That's cool. And, it was yeah, it was very cool. Was like, and it was, you know, some like, minor stuff that it was like, you know, what time is your middle schoolers? Bedtime. Like, you know. Yeah. Seven, eight, nine, ten, 11. You know, just pick one, you know, stuff like that. And it was minor. But again, it's, not just that you get individuals to engage, but the fact that everybody can see the responses as it as it goes. 00:28:40:14 - 00:29:09:00 Josh Boldman There's, I think there's a lot of even still some untapped, untapped potential there. think about how to help people engage. Yeah. I think, we went to a conference a while back, and they're talking about the differences in generational ways of thinking. And like one of the things and I think this is true, despite like being an older, older generation of like all of us, but like Gen Z, Gen Alpha, like they're just looking to be known individually, like they don't want to be part of, like a sea of numbers. 00:29:09:00 - 00:29:32:20 Nick Clason Right. And so when you are in a bigger context and you have 100,000 kids, like it's hard to it's hard for them to, to stand out and stuff like this helps them get to just yeah, speak their, their voice. Right. And they get to play a role. And even if they're voting for something and their choice doesn't get picked like they were heard and that's oh yeah, that's all it needs to be. 00:29:32:20 - 00:29:52:17 Nick Clason It doesn't have to always go their way, you know? And there's probably some opportunity for them to learn some life lessons and stuff in there. But just like realizing like, hey, we're doing all this for you, but what what do you want? Like, that's I don't know. That's the key. So, Josh, as we wind this sucker down, like final thoughts. 00:29:52:17 - 00:30:16:09 Nick Clason Final words. What what what if anything's, like burning on your soul to get out there? Josh Boldman Oh, man. All right, well, here. I'm glad you asked, Nick. no. okay, here's the thing is. Yeah, I think we need to not be afraid of what our students want. And we need to not be afraid of them expressing their opinion. 00:30:16:11 - 00:30:48:22 Josh Boldman And we need to not be afraid of them disagreeing with each other or with us. I think that that is, you know, where where we are heading is a world that values, a diversity of opinion. And the value placed on each of those opinions, is crucial. And so, like, I mean, I think people really can very easily get confused into thinking that that means that every opinion is right or that every opinion carries the same weight. 00:30:48:22 - 00:31:09:12 Josh Boldman And it's a that's not at all what it but it. I think there is a I think we we do ourselves and honestly the gospel and miss service when we, are a disservice. I don't think Miss Service is a word, a disservice when we, when we say, here is the correct answer, we don't even want to hear anything else. 00:31:09:15 - 00:31:42:02 Josh Boldman because our students are coming into our, our, our environments with their own opinions and own presuppositions. And yes, they probably heard them all from the same TikTok channel. Like, that's fine, but they all still want it. They want to be heard. And so I think any time we can even begin to open the door to showing them that we value what they are walking in with, I think just builds, it builds credibility in their eyes. 00:31:42:05 - 00:32:07:01 Josh Boldman I think in all honesty, I don't know, you know, I would argue that most students are they do not often find themselves in environments where their opinion is valued. so, I mean, whether that's school, I mean, and please don't hear me, teachers are awesome, but it is it is tough when especially when you have like a curriculum in a, in a school environment, you're like, hey, I need you to learn this thing. 00:32:07:07 - 00:32:31:22 Josh Boldman Like, and there's not a lot of debate in biology, you know, like, it's just this is where we're at, you know? And so, but I think if we can create environments where it's, we're inviting students into a conversation where their voice matters, whether that's a, a deep theological conversation or whether that is a game that is literally, hey, I need you to pick A, B, or C because it's a trivia question. 00:32:31:22 - 00:32:57:01 Josh Boldman Like it's it like, but but still valuing what they bring to the table. I think that that pays dividends in the long run in a, in a massive, massive way. I mean, whether that's later in the small group or whether that's ten years later or, you know, I'm at a point right now where kids, when I first started that were in sixth grade, now have their own sixth graders, and that is awful. 00:32:57:03 - 00:33:14:19 Josh Boldman but but it's the same thing is those those kids are now in the place where they're deciding, am I going to bring my own kid to a youth group or not? And, you know, and I think that the way we treat our students now will influence how they raise their own families and what that looks like for them in the future. 00:33:14:19 - 00:33:34:17 Josh Boldman So, never underestimate how important it is to for for a student's voice to be valued. Yeah. And what better spot in the world than for that to happen at church? Crazy, right? Who would've thought? Yeah, well, Josh, we're running out of time. But I appreciate you, man. Anywhere, anywhere else people can find, find the Josh Boldman, like. 00:33:34:19 - 00:34:00:20 Nick Clason Oh, yeah, they want to, like, untap some of these other thoughts and deeper musings of the word is, oh, I don't know if deeper is going to be with the find, but, all the social media is, it's at Josh Boldman. I know, I'm so glad it wasn't taken. Yeah. You're lucky. all right, I know. Yeah. but then, again, you know, the download youth ministry store, you know, I mean, this is not to sell stuff, but like, a lot of the stuff I've written really does reflect where I'm at, you know? 00:34:00:20 - 00:34:09:15 Josh Boldman And so, you know, check out any of that stuff there, but. Well, yeah. Love it. Man. Will appreciate you being on. And, everyone else, we'll talk next time. All right, bye friends.

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02:29 What was your original relationship with digital? 04:45 What would you say to a "regular" youth pastor? 12:10 What wins have come from social media? 19:27 What in your context has been most effective? 23:20 Additional benefits of Social -------------- ✍️TRANSCRIPT 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:01:02 What is up everybody? 00:00:01:02 - 00:00:03:03 Welcome back to another episode 00:00:03:03 - 00:00:04:20 of the Hybrid Ministry Show 00:00:04:20 - 00:00:07:02 I am your host, Nick Clason 00:00:07:02 - 00:00:08:07 here with you as always 00:00:08:07 - 00:00:09:23 and if you’ve been here the last couple of weeks 00:00:09:23 - 00:00:11:12 you know that we’ve been doing some different interviews 00:00:20:22 - 00:00:24:00 It is with my brother, Nate Clason 00:00:24:00 - 00:00:26:03 Good morning, Nate, how you doing bro? 00:00:26:03 - 00:00:27:02 I'm doing pretty good. 00:00:27:02 - 00:00:28:03 Probably not better than 00:00:28:03 - 00:00:29:03 your wife, though, right? 00:00:29:03 - 00:00:30:05 Don't say that to 00:00:30:05 - 00:00:31:02 in front of anyone. 00:00:31:02 - 00:00:31:18 You know, True. 00:00:31:18 - 00:00:34:17 Well, I’ve known you longer 00:00:34:17 - 00:00:35:12 That is true. 00:00:35:12 - 00:00:36:11 But not too much longer, so. 00:00:36:11 - 00:00:38:05 That’s probably what I’m thinking 00:00:38:05 - 00:00:38:18 when I say that 00:00:38:18 - 00:00:39:02 Yeah. 00:00:39:02 - 00:00:41:05 Yeah. 00:00:41:05 - 00:00:43:14 Nate, give us all 00:00:43:14 - 00:00:44:15 a little bit of background 00:00:44:15 - 00:00:46:19 what’s been your church 00:00:46:19 - 00:00:49:16 youth ministry, student ministry 00:00:49:16 - 00:00:51:20 experience and story 00:00:51:20 - 00:00:54:09 kinda get that conversation 00:00:54:09 - 00:00:55:24 out of the way 00:00:55:24 - 00:00:57:07 set a little bit of a baseline 00:00:57:07 - 00:00:58:19 as we dive into this 00:00:58:19 - 00:01:00:04 social media discussion 00:01:00:04 - 00:01:00:14 Yeah. 00:01:00:14 - 00:01:01:21 So I felt called 00:01:01:21 - 00:01:05:00 to, ministry at a Mexico 00:01:05:00 - 00:01:06:02 missions trip. 00:01:06:02 - 00:01:07:19 when I was in high school, 00:01:07:19 - 00:01:09:08 a late high school, 00:01:09:08 - 00:01:11:01 and actually kind of fell off. 00:01:11:01 - 00:01:12:05 my journey a little bit. 00:01:12:05 - 00:01:13:07 my journey a little bit. 00:01:13:07 - 00:01:14:01 Kind of started 00:01:14:01 - 00:01:15:14 serving, working 00:01:15:14 - 00:01:16:13 in, like, 00:01:16:13 - 00:01:18:02 the public work, you know, 00:01:18:02 - 00:01:19:15 the secular work environment 00:01:19:15 - 00:01:20:21 and just kind of saw 00:01:20:21 - 00:01:21:13 I wasn't called 00:01:21:13 - 00:01:22:16 the ministry anymore 00:01:22:16 - 00:01:23:15 and got connected 00:01:23:15 - 00:01:25:13 one day at my custodian 00:01:25:13 - 00:01:26:18 job at a school 00:01:26:18 - 00:01:29:03 with, a pastor's wife 00:01:29:03 - 00:01:30:21 who was subbing at the school. 00:01:30:21 - 00:01:32:06 And I told her, 00:01:32:06 - 00:01:33:16 we were talking about music, 00:01:33:16 - 00:01:34:04 and she found out 00:01:34:04 - 00:01:34:21 that I could play 00:01:34:21 - 00:01:35:17 a little bit of guitar, 00:01:35:17 - 00:01:36:21 and she asked if I could 00:01:36:21 - 00:01:38:06 help with her church worship 00:01:38:06 - 00:01:40:03 and got connected that way. 00:01:40:03 - 00:01:41:06 And through that, 00:01:41:06 - 00:01:41:23 got connected 00:01:41:23 - 00:01:43:22 with a, leader 00:01:43:22 - 00:01:45:10 in that denomination 00:01:45:10 - 00:01:47:10 who eventually got me ordained 00:01:47:10 - 00:01:48:12 and got me connected 00:01:48:12 - 00:01:49:17 with other pastors. 00:01:49:17 - 00:01:50:04 Eventually, 00:01:50:04 - 00:01:51:14 where I became a youth pastor. 00:01:51:14 - 00:01:52:10 And now I'm 00:01:52:10 - 00:01:53:08 serving in a little bit 00:01:53:08 - 00:01:54:02 of a bigger church 00:01:54:02 - 00:01:55:15 in the Taylorville area 00:01:55:15 - 00:01:57:05 as the associate pastor 00:01:57:05 - 00:01:57:15 of student 00:01:57:15 - 00:01:59:11 ministry and worship ministry. 00:01:59:11 - 00:02:00:11 So it started 00:02:00:11 - 00:02:01:08 with worship ministry 00:02:01:08 - 00:02:01:18 and kind of 00:02:01:18 - 00:02:02:23 evolved into youth. 00:02:02:23 - 00:02:03:21 And I never kind of 00:02:03:21 - 00:02:04:18 saw that coming, 00:02:04:18 - 00:02:05:06 but praise 00:02:05:06 - 00:02:06:09 God that he got me to kind of 00:02:06:09 - 00:02:06:23 where I felt 00:02:06:23 - 00:02:08:11 called to years ago, you know? 00:02:08:11 - 00:02:10:01 So that's cool. 00:02:10:01 - 00:02:10:18 Yeah, so 00:02:10:18 - 00:02:11:22 the gateway drug 00:02:11:22 - 00:02:13:11 to your youth ministry 00:02:13:11 - 00:02:14:06 was worship 00:02:14:06 - 00:02:14:15 Yeah 00:02:14:15 - 00:02:16:04 That’s where you started 00:02:16:04 - 00:02:16:16 as you can tell 00:02:16:16 - 00:02:17:09 by the man bun. 00:02:17:09 - 00:02:18:13 Right? 00:02:18:13 - 00:02:19:18 Yeah 00:02:19:18 - 00:02:21:24 Or something about that manbun 00:02:21:24 - 00:02:23:14 We won’t talk about that 00:02:23:14 - 00:02:24:07 But 00:02:26:09 - 00:02:28:07 You started doing youth ministry 00:02:29:10 - 00:02:30:13 When you jumped into 00:02:30:13 - 00:02:31:12 youth ministry 00:02:31:12 - 00:02:32:18 What at that point 00:02:32:18 - 00:02:35:11 was your like understanding 00:02:35:11 - 00:02:36:17 or your relationship 00:02:36:17 - 00:02:38:10 with digital and social media 00:02:38:10 - 00:02:41:06 and all that type of stuff? 00:02:41:06 - 00:02:43:04 I've always kind of 00:02:43:04 - 00:02:45:00 been, like. 00:02:45:00 - 00:02:45:23 I've always been aware 00:02:45:23 - 00:02:46:13 of social media. 00:02:46:13 - 00:02:47:13 Never knew how important 00:02:47:13 - 00:02:48:19 it was to student ministry. 00:02:48:19 - 00:02:49:23 I didn't really, 00:02:49:23 - 00:02:51:24 it was actually post Covid 00:02:51:24 - 00:02:52:22 when I really. 00:02:52:22 - 00:02:53:13 Well, 00:02:53:13 - 00:02:54:08 in the middle of Covid 00:02:54:08 - 00:02:54:20 that I started 00:02:54:20 - 00:02:55:10 getting involved 00:02:55:10 - 00:02:56:05 in student ministry. 00:02:56:05 - 00:02:57:10 And, 00:02:57:10 - 00:02:59:06 I didn't have 00:02:59:06 - 00:03:01:10 too many platforms. 00:03:01:10 - 00:03:02:12 And my first church 00:03:02:12 - 00:03:03:10 was social media, 00:03:03:10 - 00:03:06:02 mostly through Facebook. 00:03:06:02 - 00:03:07:19 I had that's pretty 00:03:07:19 - 00:03:08:21 much it for my first church. 00:03:08:21 - 00:03:10:06 And I mostly connected 00:03:10:06 - 00:03:12:09 with parents on that platform. 00:03:12:09 - 00:03:14:06 and I realized 00:03:14:06 - 00:03:15:03 that probably wasn't 00:03:15:03 - 00:03:16:02 a strength. 00:03:16:02 - 00:03:18:23 so here, though, 00:03:18:23 - 00:03:20:08 I would say that I've, 00:03:20:08 - 00:03:22:08 I've kind of adapted, adopted, 00:03:22:08 - 00:03:25:09 Instagram, Facebook. 00:03:25:09 - 00:03:26:24 I created a TikTok. 00:03:26:24 - 00:03:27:13 And Nick, 00:03:27:13 - 00:03:28:16 I know you're so passionate 00:03:28:16 - 00:03:29:09 about YouTube, 00:03:29:09 - 00:03:30:04 me and Jessica have been 00:03:30:04 - 00:03:30:20 talking recently, 00:03:30:20 - 00:03:31:13 my wife, 00:03:31:13 - 00:03:32:13 about the idea 00:03:32:13 - 00:03:33:19 of getting on YouTube here 00:03:33:19 - 00:03:34:01 soon, 00:03:34:01 - 00:03:34:18 just because I feel like 00:03:34:18 - 00:03:35:24 that'd be a bigger, 00:03:35:24 - 00:03:37:02 overall 00:03:37:02 - 00:03:38:06 reach for our students 00:03:38:06 - 00:03:40:06 to, to have us on YouTube. 00:03:40:06 - 00:03:42:02 But I'm not super connect. 00:03:42:02 - 00:03:42:24 I wasn't super connected 00:03:42:24 - 00:03:44:08 initially to social media. 00:03:44:08 - 00:03:45:18 I would say that. 00:03:45:18 - 00:03:48:12 So what was the 00:03:48:12 - 00:03:49:09 What would you say was 00:03:49:09 - 00:03:49:22 the driving force 00:03:49:22 - 00:03:50:24 or the catalyst 00:03:50:24 - 00:03:52:11 to get you connected 00:03:52:11 - 00:03:53:12 to some of those things? 00:03:53:12 - 00:03:55:08 Like what was your “aha” moment? 00:03:55:08 - 00:03:57:09 If there was one? 00:03:57:09 - 00:03:58:19 well, I think seeing you, 00:03:58:19 - 00:03:59:09 like, super 00:03:59:09 - 00:04:00:02 passionate about it 00:04:00:02 - 00:04:01:08 and watching your podcast 00:04:01:08 - 00:04:02:11 really, honestly like, 00:04:02:11 - 00:04:03:11 and your 00:04:03:11 - 00:04:05:03 different videos and clips 00:04:05:03 - 00:04:05:23 on like TikTok and stuff 00:04:05:23 - 00:04:06:23 on like TikTok and stuff 00:04:06:23 - 00:04:07:20 of how important 00:04:07:20 - 00:04:09:04 social media is 00:04:09:04 - 00:04:10:11 kind of drives me 00:04:10:11 - 00:04:11:17 to make sure I have that. 00:04:11:17 - 00:04:12:21 And like really, 00:04:12:21 - 00:04:13:10 a lot of that 00:04:13:10 - 00:04:14:12 is truly 00:04:14:12 - 00:04:16:18 from like your passion for it. 00:04:16:18 - 00:04:18:05 And I'm seeing other leaders 00:04:18:05 - 00:04:19:04 saying, hey, you know, like, 00:04:19:04 - 00:04:20:02 this is a new era. 00:04:20:02 - 00:04:21:17 It's no longer like 00:04:21:17 - 00:04:22:03 you're not going 00:04:22:03 - 00:04:22:20 to meet in person 00:04:22:20 - 00:04:24:14 as naturally and as, as, 00:04:24:14 - 00:04:25:21 as often as you like. 00:04:25:21 - 00:04:26:15 And there's going to be kids 00:04:26:15 - 00:04:27:14 that don't make it every week. 00:04:27:14 - 00:04:28:07 So it's like 00:04:28:07 - 00:04:28:22 it's good for them 00:04:28:22 - 00:04:29:04 to have 00:04:29:04 - 00:04:30:05 some sort of 00:04:30:05 - 00:04:31:22 avenue of seeing, 00:04:31:22 - 00:04:33:18 some of the stuff 00:04:33:18 - 00:04:34:13 that we're talking about, 00:04:34:13 - 00:04:36:03 even if it's just like a recap 00:04:36:03 - 00:04:36:15 or whatever, 00:04:36:15 - 00:04:37:13 just to kind of give them 00:04:37:13 - 00:04:38:06 a basis of 00:04:38:06 - 00:04:39:21 what we're talking about. So. 00:04:39:21 - 00:04:40:22 Yeah, no doubt 00:04:40:22 - 00:04:42:08 I would agree 00:04:42:08 - 00:04:45:20 But that feels obvious, maybe 00:04:45:20 - 00:04:50:03 So tell people 00:04:50:03 - 00:04:51:14 I think it was helpful 00:04:51:14 - 00:04:52:12 Because you’re a guy 00:04:52:12 - 00:04:54:24 Who is like 00:04:54:24 - 00:04:57:04 What I would deem as 00:04:57:04 - 00:04:59:04 like a lot of other youth pastors in America 00:04:59:04 - 00:05:00:10 You’re just kinda like 00:05:00:10 - 00:05:02:23 jumping from week to week 00:05:02:23 - 00:05:03:24 program to program 00:05:03:24 - 00:05:05:18 like making sure you got a game 00:05:05:18 - 00:05:06:18 making sure you got a message 00:05:06:18 - 00:05:07:22 making sure you got a small group 00:05:07:22 - 00:05:08:09 making sure you got enough leaders 00:05:08:09 - 00:05:08:24 making sure you got enough leaders 00:05:08:24 - 00:05:09:24 like all the things 00:05:09:24 - 00:05:12:12 all the like whirlwind 00:05:12:12 - 00:05:15:14 elements of just being a youth pastor 00:05:15:14 - 00:05:17:11 and then 00:05:17:11 - 00:05:18:24 you got someone like me 00:05:18:24 - 00:05:20:17 who’s telling you 00:05:20:17 - 00:05:21:20 “you need to get on social media” 00:05:21:20 - 00:05:23:08 “you need to get on social media” 00:05:23:08 - 00:05:25:19 speak to somebody 00:05:25:19 - 00:05:27:22 who’s in the space that you were 00:05:27:22 - 00:05:29:17 a year, year and a half ago 00:05:29:17 - 00:05:30:23 that’s like 00:05:30:23 - 00:05:32:20 “Yeah that sounds awesome” 00:05:32:20 - 00:05:33:23 “I would love to” 00:05:33:23 - 00:05:35:24 “There’s no way I could ever do it!” 00:05:35:24 - 00:05:37:20 “It’s too hard” 00:05:37:20 - 00:05:38:18 “It’s too much” 00:05:38:18 - 00:05:39:11 It’s too... 00:05:39:11 - 00:05:40:19 Whatever. Fill in whatever 00:05:40:19 - 00:05:42:16 blank of why it’s 00:05:42:16 - 00:05:43:18 why it’s not 00:05:43:18 - 00:05:46:02 gonna be achievable or possible 00:05:46:02 - 00:05:48:02 talk to somebody who’s in that 00:05:48:02 - 00:05:49:03 in that sorta space 00:05:49:03 - 00:05:50:15 like you were not too long ago 00:05:50:15 - 00:05:50:21 Yeah. 00:05:50:21 - 00:05:52:16 Well, there is a way to 00:05:52:16 - 00:05:53:11 connect all your 00:05:53:11 - 00:05:54:14 social media platforms 00:05:54:14 - 00:05:56:01 so that when you post on 00:05:56:01 - 00:05:56:23 it, posts on all of them, 00:05:56:23 - 00:05:57:08 I think that's 00:05:57:08 - 00:05:58:08 a big part of it. 00:05:58:08 - 00:05:58:22 And honestly, 00:05:58:22 - 00:05:59:22 I don't even 00:05:59:22 - 00:06:00:23 like for some things. 00:06:00:23 - 00:06:02:01 Like for my pictures, 00:06:02:01 - 00:06:03:13 it goes from Instagram 00:06:03:13 - 00:06:04:00 to Facebook. 00:06:04:00 - 00:06:04:15 They're connected. 00:06:04:15 - 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00:06:52:05 like kind of goofy 00:06:52:05 - 00:06:53:19 things for kids to kind of, 00:06:53:19 - 00:06:55:17 you know, be by. 00:06:55:17 - 00:06:57:00 But it's also good to have, 00:06:57:00 - 00:06:57:17 you know, 00:06:57:17 - 00:06:58:19 content 00:06:58:19 - 00:06:59:21 that could inspire 00:06:59:21 - 00:07:01:03 and change lives. 00:07:01:03 - 00:07:02:04 and I, I've seen, 00:07:02:04 - 00:07:03:24 aspects of both, 00:07:03:24 - 00:07:05:00 you know, so it's good. 00:07:05:00 - 00:07:05:16 Yep. 00:07:05:16 - 00:07:07:09 So like that’s like the big 00:07:07:09 - 00:07:09:15 picture reason. 00:07:09:15 - 00:07:10:15 Students are on it... 00:07:10:15 - 00:07:11:24 We should be on there... 00:07:11:24 - 00:07:14:00 helping redeem those moments 00:07:14:00 - 00:07:15:19 I like to think about 00:07:15:19 - 00:07:17:21 in the Bible 00:07:17:21 - 00:07:19:16 the Apostle Paul was using like 00:07:19:16 - 00:07:20:13 pen and paper 00:07:20:13 - 00:07:22:07 and then like mail carriers 00:07:22:07 - 00:07:23:11 to like get his message across 00:07:23:11 - 00:07:26:09 today I would envision that 00:07:26:09 - 00:07:28:17 He would be using something like digital 00:07:28:17 - 00:07:29:14 Exactly. 00:07:29:14 - 00:07:30:22 Pretty vigorously 00:07:30:22 - 00:07:32:04 to get his message across 00:07:33:05 - 00:07:36:09 So that’s the big picture, “why” 00:07:36:09 - 00:07:36:22 Yeah, Yeah 00:07:36:22 - 00:07:38:08 Students are there, It’s important 00:07:38:08 - 00:07:40:03 Talk about like 00:07:40:03 - 00:07:42:23 What it took from just like time management 00:07:42:23 - 00:07:44:21 Talk about what it took from like 00:07:44:21 - 00:07:47:24 platform understanding 00:07:47:24 - 00:07:50:07 You, I feel like 00:07:50:07 - 00:07:51:02 correct me if I’m wrong, but 00:07:51:02 - 00:07:52:07 I feel like you had to 00:07:52:07 - 00:07:54:05 get to know how to use 00:07:54:05 - 00:07:55:11 a lot of these tools 00:07:55:11 - 00:07:57:14 talk to someone who may be 00:07:57:14 - 00:07:58:09 in the space 00:07:58:09 - 00:08:00:03 “I want to- I don’t even know what 00:08:00:03 - 00:08:01:07 to do. Or how to do it.” 00:08:01:07 - 00:08:02:16 Or like what’s even 00:08:02:16 - 00:08:03:07 possible 00:08:03:07 - 00:08:04:11 Or what ever I should do. 00:08:04:11 - 00:08:06:07 Like get real practical 00:08:06:07 - 00:08:06:18 You know, 00:08:06:18 - 00:08:08:12 I think 00:08:08:12 - 00:08:10:00 it doesn't take as much time 00:08:10:00 - 00:08:10:15 as you think. 00:08:10:15 - 00:08:11:09 I mean, yes, 00:08:11:09 - 00:08:12:05 creating the video. 00:08:12:05 - 00:08:13:05 I mean, you never, 00:08:13:05 - 00:08:14:14 I think, was like 00:08:14:14 - 00:08:15:16 creating a short 00:08:15:16 - 00:08:16:19 or like a reel. 00:08:16:19 - 00:08:18:05 You never want to make a reel 00:08:18:05 - 00:08:19:10 any longer than a minute 00:08:19:10 - 00:08:20:21 or so like that. 00:08:20:21 - 00:08:21:11 So you really 00:08:21:11 - 00:08:22:05 it doesn't take that long 00:08:22:05 - 00:08:22:23 to create that video. 00:08:22:23 - 00:08:23:12 If you could do it in 00:08:23:12 - 00:08:24:13 1 or 2 takes, like it's 00:08:24:13 - 00:08:25:22 not a big deal with that. 00:08:25:22 - 00:08:26:24 And then 00:08:26:24 - 00:08:28:11 that's a big part of, 00:08:28:11 - 00:08:29:10 what students look at. 00:08:29:10 - 00:08:29:24 They don't watch 00:08:29:24 - 00:08:31:00 like long videos. 00:08:31:00 - 00:08:31:16 They're not going to watch 00:08:31:16 - 00:08:32:20 a 20 minute video. 00:08:32:20 - 00:08:33:13 But if you can keep it 00:08:33:13 - 00:08:34:10 a minute, you know, 00:08:34:10 - 00:08:35:10 that's more realistic 00:08:35:10 - 00:08:36:19 for them to kind of, 00:08:36:19 - 00:08:37:19 you know, dive into it 00:08:37:19 - 00:08:39:15 and interact with it. 00:08:39:15 - 00:08:39:23 and I think 00:08:39:23 - 00:08:40:07 a lot of 00:08:40:07 - 00:08:42:00 it is like interaction, 00:08:42:00 - 00:08:43:08 like if you, you know, 00:08:43:08 - 00:08:44:00 what did you learn from 00:08:44:00 - 00:08:44:12 this video? 00:08:44:12 - 00:08:45:14 You know, make comment in the 00:08:45:14 - 00:08:47:03 in the comments, tell us who 00:08:47:03 - 00:08:49:04 who won this in this game or 00:08:49:04 - 00:08:49:22 and I don't think it's 00:08:49:22 - 00:08:51:01 I don't think it's, 00:08:51:01 - 00:08:54:20 it's as much it's not as time 00:08:54:20 - 00:08:55:19 consuming as you think. 00:08:55:19 - 00:08:56:22 It's I mean, 00:08:56:22 - 00:08:58:00 some people are 00:08:58:00 - 00:08:58:21 slower than others 00:08:58:21 - 00:08:59:08 and some people 00:08:59:08 - 00:09:00:04 are faster than others 00:09:00:04 - 00:09:01:00 at getting stuff done. 00:09:01:00 - 00:09:02:03 But once you kind of 00:09:02:03 - 00:09:02:24 get the bearings 00:09:02:24 - 00:09:04:08 and the grip 00:09:04:08 - 00:09:05:04 on, on different 00:09:05:04 - 00:09:06:05 like ways of doing things, 00:09:06:05 - 00:09:06:14 and you're in 00:09:06:14 - 00:09:08:06 kind of your groove on things, 00:09:08:06 - 00:09:09:12 it becomes pretty natural 00:09:09:12 - 00:09:10:09 and second nature 00:09:10:09 - 00:09:12:00 and pretty fast stuff done. 00:09:12:00 - 00:09:13:07 I do a kind of a good amount 00:09:13:07 - 00:09:14:05 of social media stuff, 00:09:14:05 - 00:09:15:10 with even both worship 00:09:15:10 - 00:09:17:01 and youth a little bit. 00:09:17:01 - 00:09:18:06 Not as much with worship, 00:09:18:06 - 00:09:19:10 but some. 00:09:19:10 - 00:09:20:03 And it's like 00:09:20:03 - 00:09:20:21 it's really 00:09:20:21 - 00:09:22:21 it doesn't take that much time 00:09:22:21 - 00:09:25:07 to, to post stuff, I think. 00:09:25:07 - 00:09:26:17 yeah, that's that's 00:09:26:17 - 00:09:28:03 an encouraging thing 00:09:28:03 - 00:09:28:17 to think about. 00:09:28:17 - 00:09:29:12 It's like 00:09:29:12 - 00:09:30:06 it's not going to take 00:09:30:06 - 00:09:30:22 you forever 00:09:30:22 - 00:09:32:01 to get a couple posts 00:09:32:01 - 00:09:33:14 out, a day 00:09:33:14 - 00:09:35:07 or maybe several week. 00:09:35:07 - 00:09:36:01 I think it's good to have 00:09:36:01 - 00:09:37:11 at least one a day or, 00:09:37:11 - 00:09:38:24 you know, multiple a week. 00:09:38:24 - 00:09:39:14 So you can kind of 00:09:39:14 - 00:09:40:16 get keep interacting 00:09:40:16 - 00:09:41:06 with your students. 00:09:41:06 - 00:09:43:02 So I don't know, 00:09:43:02 - 00:09:43:24 is that what kind of answering 00:09:43:24 - 00:09:45:19 your question? Okay. 00:09:45:19 - 00:09:46:08 Yeah, for sure. 00:09:46:08 - 00:09:48:09 I mean there’s like... 00:09:48:09 - 00:09:50:18 I can’t remember, exactly 00:09:50:18 - 00:09:52:19 I’m trying to look it up right now 00:09:52:19 - 00:09:54:04 But there’s a book, the concept 00:09:54:04 - 00:09:55:04 is called like “1,000 Hours” 00:09:55:04 - 00:09:57:05 Maybe it’s 100 hours 00:09:57:05 - 00:09:59:06 I’ll put the link in the 00:09:59:06 - 00:10:00:11 shownotes if you’re interested 00:10:00:11 - 00:10:01:06 I’ll figure it out 00:10:01:06 - 00:10:03:07 But the concept 00:10:03:07 - 00:10:04:09 is like 00:10:04:09 - 00:10:06:10 No one is gonna be good at anything 00:10:06:10 - 00:10:07:01 until they spend 00:10:07:01 - 00:10:08:01 some time on it. 00:10:08:01 - 00:10:09:22 And so if you feel intimidated 00:10:09:22 - 00:10:10:21 by something 00:10:10:21 - 00:10:11:15 of course you’re gonna 00:10:11:15 - 00:10:12:13 feel intimidated by something 00:10:12:13 - 00:10:13:07 new. It’s new! 00:10:13:07 - 00:10:15:16 That’s what new stuff does 00:10:15:16 - 00:10:16:16 None of us are good 00:10:16:16 - 00:10:18:17 at new stuff right away 00:10:18:17 - 00:10:20:12 And I think it’s really telling 00:10:20:12 - 00:10:23:17 to your point 00:10:23:17 - 00:10:24:15 You were in that boat 00:10:24:15 - 00:10:25:00 And you were like: 00:10:25:00 - 00:10:27:15 “I don’t know” 00:10:27:15 - 00:10:28:21 Just to shed a little bit of light 00:10:28:21 - 00:10:30:02 When I was telling you 00:10:30:02 - 00:10:31:04 you should 00:10:31:04 - 00:10:31:23 dive into some of this stuff 00:10:31:23 - 00:10:32:10 You were like: 00:10:32:10 - 00:10:33:22 “I don’t know man...” 00:10:33:22 - 00:10:35:10 “I don’t really do that type of st-” 00:10:35:10 - 00:10:36:22 “I don’t really do TikTok” 00:10:36:22 - 00:10:38:14 “I don’t really do any videos” 00:10:38:14 - 00:10:40:01 And I was just like: 00:10:40:01 - 00:10:41:18 “Hey just try it. It’s not that hard.” 00:10:41:18 - 00:10:42:11 Yeah. 00:10:42:11 - 00:10:43:05 And so to hear you say now 00:10:43:05 - 00:10:44:15 a year and something later 00:10:44:15 - 00:10:46:04 “It’s not 00:10:46:04 - 00:10:47:05 doesn’t take as much time. 00:10:47:05 - 00:10:48:05 as you might think.” 00:10:48:05 - 00:10:49:09 Yeah. 00:10:49:09 - 00:10:52:14 That’s a good word on that 00:10:52:14 - 00:10:53:12 The more time you 00:10:53:12 - 00:10:54:10 spend on something 00:10:54:10 - 00:10:55:19 the better you’re gonna get with it. 00:10:55:19 - 00:10:56:14 Yeah. 00:10:56:14 - 00:10:57:07 And so like 00:10:57:07 - 00:10:58:14 I had one of our 00:10:58:14 - 00:10:59:11 interns yesterday, say 00:10:59:11 - 00:11:00:04 something about 00:11:00:04 - 00:11:01:15 like video editing 00:11:01:15 - 00:11:01:24 She was like 00:11:01:24 - 00:11:04:11 “I wanna help you edit video” 00:11:04:11 - 00:11:06:23 “I wanna do more video editing.” 00:11:06:23 - 00:11:08:07 cuz she also wants to learn 00:11:08:07 - 00:11:09:15 And I just looked at her 00:11:09:15 - 00:11:10:01 I was like: 00:11:10:01 - 00:11:11:02 “You just gotta do it.” 00:11:11:02 - 00:11:11:15 Yeah. 00:11:11:15 - 00:11:13:00 Like doing it is the key 00:11:13:00 - 00:11:13:22 Sit down with it 00:11:13:22 - 00:11:14:19 And the more you like 00:11:14:19 - 00:11:16:05 sit down with it, spend time on it. 00:11:16:05 - 00:11:18:08 The more you can get it done 00:11:18:08 - 00:11:18:21 Yeah. 00:11:18:21 - 00:11:20:00 I've learned on my phone 00:11:20:00 - 00:11:20:15 cap cut. 00:11:20:15 - 00:11:21:08 The free version. 00:11:21:08 - 00:11:23:12 Even like it does wonders 00:11:23:12 - 00:11:24:11 for a lot of things. 00:11:24:11 - 00:11:25:15 Like there's 00:11:25:15 - 00:11:26:13 there's a pro version 00:11:26:13 - 00:11:27:06 that probably costs, 00:11:27:06 - 00:11:27:23 but, like, 00:11:27:23 - 00:11:29:05 even the free version 00:11:29:05 - 00:11:31:17 has given me, like, a lot of, 00:11:31:17 - 00:11:32:09 you know, help. 00:11:32:09 - 00:11:33:02 And there's not a lot 00:11:33:02 - 00:11:33:12 there's really 00:11:33:12 - 00:11:34:03 not a lot to it. 00:11:34:03 - 00:11:35:03 There's a lot of little things 00:11:35:03 - 00:11:35:21 you have to kind of figure out 00:11:35:21 - 00:11:36:14 what does what, 00:11:36:14 - 00:11:37:13 but once you do, 00:11:37:13 - 00:11:39:04 it's pretty easy to kind of 00:11:39:04 - 00:11:39:24 get the gist of it 00:11:39:24 - 00:11:40:22 pretty quickly. 00:11:40:22 - 00:11:41:24 So. 00:11:41:24 - 00:11:43:02 And ya know 00:11:43:02 - 00:11:43:18 what’s even fun 00:11:43:18 - 00:11:44:10 Yesterday, I had a 00:11:44:10 - 00:11:45:06 student 00:11:45:06 - 00:11:46:13 a 6th grader come in 00:11:46:13 - 00:11:48:07 and I taught him how to edit 00:11:48:07 - 00:11:49:19 videos for social media 00:11:49:19 - 00:11:50:12 Awesome, 00:11:50:12 - 00:11:50:24 And he edited two 00:11:50:24 - 00:11:51:11 cool. 00:11:51:11 - 00:11:51:23 In a 3 hour 00:11:51:23 - 00:11:52:13 period of time 00:11:52:13 - 00:11:53:19 He’d never used 00:11:53:19 - 00:11:54:11 Adobe Premiere Pro 00:11:54:11 - 00:11:55:08 It turned out pretty good? 00:11:55:08 - 00:11:56:03 The videos? 00:11:56:03 - 00:11:58:08 Yeah. I’ll post the link down below 00:11:58:08 - 00:12:00:00 You can see the student’s 00:12:00:00 - 00:12:00:11 edit 00:12:00:11 - 00:12:01:08 Awesome 00:12:01:08 - 00:12:02:06 Man, it was crispy 00:12:02:06 - 00:12:03:15 It was a crispy edit 00:12:03:15 - 00:12:04:01 Cool. 00:12:04:01 - 00:12:05:10 Shout out to him 00:12:05:10 - 00:12:07:03 Alright, so let’s... 00:12:07:03 - 00:12:09:05 Shift gears a little bit, Nate 00:12:09:05 - 00:12:10:15 And, umm 00:12:10:15 - 00:12:12:01 Talk about 00:12:12:01 - 00:12:13:01 what 00:12:13:01 - 00:12:14:12 Advantages 00:12:14:12 - 00:12:15:18 or what wins 00:12:15:18 - 00:12:16:10 you have seen 00:12:16:10 - 00:12:17:19 out of social media 00:12:17:19 - 00:12:19:07 in your group? 00:12:19:07 - 00:12:20:13 Right, what has 00:12:20:13 - 00:12:22:03 having a camera around 00:12:22:03 - 00:12:24:02 What has doing different like 00:12:24:02 - 00:12:25:06 Challenges 00:12:25:06 - 00:12:27:03 Your little like 00:12:27:03 - 00:12:28:01 devotional thoughts 00:12:28:01 - 00:12:30:09 Take it any direction you want 00:12:30:09 - 00:12:31:10 But what has 00:12:31:10 - 00:12:32:08 having these 00:12:32:08 - 00:12:33:15 having just a presence 00:12:33:15 - 00:12:34:24 on social media 00:12:34:24 - 00:12:36:11 what has it done in your mind 00:12:36:11 - 00:12:38:13 to your youth group? 00:12:38:13 - 00:12:39:04 you know, I'm 00:12:39:04 - 00:12:40:09 going to say something 00:12:40:09 - 00:12:41:20 that may be a little bit off 00:12:41:20 - 00:12:42:23 the track of this little bit, 00:12:42:23 - 00:12:44:04 but it's related to this. 00:12:44:04 - 00:12:45:03 I think I've noticed 00:12:45:03 - 00:12:46:02 a lot more people 00:12:46:02 - 00:12:47:09 outside of my ministry 00:12:47:09 - 00:12:48:04 are being reached 00:12:48:04 - 00:12:49:13 than just my students. 00:12:49:13 - 00:12:50:00 There's people 00:12:50:00 - 00:12:51:13 that see my videos 00:12:51:13 - 00:12:52:13 that that are like, 00:12:52:13 - 00:12:53:13 not from our ministry, 00:12:53:13 - 00:12:54:11 that are like, inspired 00:12:54:11 - 00:12:55:16 and like asking questions 00:12:55:16 - 00:12:57:05 and like, where is CSM at? 00:12:57:05 - 00:12:58:01 And all this stuff. 00:12:58:01 - 00:12:58:07 And they 00:12:58:07 - 00:12:58:14 may not 00:12:58:14 - 00:12:59:21 even be from around the area, 00:12:59:21 - 00:13:01:06 but they're like curious 00:13:01:06 - 00:13:02:16 and finding things. 00:13:02:16 - 00:13:03:03 And we're starting 00:13:03:03 - 00:13:04:02 to get more students now 00:13:04:02 - 00:13:05:06 and like seeing my videos 00:13:05:06 - 00:13:05:16 and being in 00:13:05:16 - 00:13:06:07 and following things. 00:13:06:07 - 00:13:06:19 And actually, 00:13:06:19 - 00:13:07:10 we copied off 00:13:07:10 - 00:13:08:01 your guy's church 00:13:08:01 - 00:13:08:24 one time you did this thing 00:13:08:24 - 00:13:09:10 where you went up 00:13:09:10 - 00:13:10:19 to students and go, 00:13:10:19 - 00:13:12:08 hey, you know, 00:13:12:08 - 00:13:13:22 do you follow Cross Creek, 00:13:13:22 - 00:13:14:13 your church? 00:13:14:13 - 00:13:15:00 And I go, hey, 00:13:15:00 - 00:13:15:14 do you follow 00:13:15:14 - 00:13:17:00 CSM on on TikTok 00:13:17:00 - 00:13:17:24 or do you follow CSM 00:13:17:24 - 00:13:19:21 on, you know, Instagram? 00:13:19:21 - 00:13:21:09 And they're always scrambling 00:13:21:09 - 00:13:22:20 and they show their phone 00:13:22:20 - 00:13:23:14 and they either know 00:13:23:14 - 00:13:24:01 who they do 00:13:24:01 - 00:13:25:01 or because of that, 00:13:25:01 - 00:13:25:24 they start following. 00:13:25:24 - 00:13:27:01 You know, 00:13:27:01 - 00:13:28:19 I think it's just 00:13:28:19 - 00:13:31:03 so important to be present 00:13:31:03 - 00:13:32:01 there. 00:13:32:01 - 00:13:35:03 and, give them an avenue 00:13:35:03 - 00:13:36:10 where they can 00:13:36:10 - 00:13:37:19 if they missed a week 00:13:37:19 - 00:13:38:24 and I, I don't always do it, 00:13:38:24 - 00:13:40:10 but I try to do a recap video 00:13:40:10 - 00:13:41:14 from the week before 00:13:41:14 - 00:13:42:00 and talk 00:13:42:00 - 00:13:43:24 more about different messages. 00:13:43:24 - 00:13:47:12 And, I think they need that 00:13:47:12 - 00:13:48:00 to kind of 00:13:48:00 - 00:13:48:21 if they're not there, like, 00:13:48:21 - 00:13:49:08 hey, they can 00:13:49:08 - 00:13:50:17 they can see what's going on. 00:13:50:17 - 00:13:52:04 So that's, that's really good. 00:13:52:04 - 00:13:53:09 Yeah. 00:13:53:09 - 00:13:54:15 Well and it’s even like 00:13:54:15 - 00:13:55:16 Ya know 00:13:55:16 - 00:13:56:17 you even said it 00:13:56:17 - 00:13:57:18 there, like 00:13:57:18 - 00:13:59:24 just by doing like something 00:13:59:24 - 00:14:01:05 some little like 00:14:01:05 - 00:14:02:12 challenge thing 00:14:02:12 - 00:14:03:12 like it created like 00:14:03:12 - 00:14:04:01 a fun 00:14:04:01 - 00:14:04:18 Yeah. 00:14:04:18 - 00:14:05:12 moment. 00:14:05:12 - 00:14:06:02 Yeah. 00:14:06:02 - 00:14:06:17 And then if 00:14:06:17 - 00:14:07:22 you do go around 00:14:07:22 - 00:14:08:13 and you’re kinda like 00:14:08:13 - 00:14:10:17 doing man on the street-style videos 00:14:10:17 - 00:14:11:07 and you’re 00:14:11:07 - 00:14:12:18 interviewing people and tryina 00:14:12:18 - 00:14:14:08 catch em not following you, 00:14:14:08 - 00:14:15:07 or prove to 00:14:15:07 - 00:14:17:02 people that they are following you. 00:14:17:02 - 00:14:18:24 Then later, they’re gonna look 00:14:18:24 - 00:14:20:02 for that online. 00:14:20:02 - 00:14:22:03 Right? And then that’s gonna create 00:14:22:03 - 00:14:23:09 and organic moment 00:14:23:09 - 00:14:25:10 an organic shareable moment 00:14:25:10 - 00:14:26:09 that they might 00:14:26:09 - 00:14:27:18 show their friends 00:14:27:18 - 00:14:28:19 “Hey, check this video out!” 00:14:28:19 - 00:14:30:04 or something like that, right? 00:14:30:04 - 00:14:31:09 like something that they could even 00:14:31:09 - 00:14:33:02 then be proud of 00:14:33:02 - 00:14:34:05 Ya know, and so there’s 00:14:34:05 - 00:14:36:15 I think, opportunity 00:14:36:15 - 00:14:37:16 Not 00:14:37:16 - 00:14:39:21 just with people who don’t go to your church 00:14:39:21 - 00:14:40:18 But also, 00:14:40:18 - 00:14:42:12 with students that are 00:14:42:12 - 00:14:43:03 Yeah. 00:14:43:03 - 00:14:43:17 in your youth ministry. 00:14:43:17 - 00:14:45:12 that can, ya know 00:14:45:12 - 00:14:46:14 help them feel 00:14:46:14 - 00:14:48:07 like some sort of sense of ownership 00:14:48:07 - 00:14:49:22 and some sort of like, win 00:14:49:22 - 00:14:52:06 in and through your social media 00:14:52:06 - 00:14:53:15 it’s in the 00:14:53:15 - 00:14:54:21 it’s a really low 00:14:54:21 - 00:14:55:19 hanging fruit there, ya know? 00:14:55:19 - 00:14:56:05 Yeah. 00:14:56:05 - 00:14:56:11 And I 00:14:56:11 - 00:14:57:20 feel like a lot of people. 00:14:57:20 - 00:14:58:14 A lot of students, 00:14:58:14 - 00:14:59:18 specifically students 00:14:59:18 - 00:15:02:00 want to see other students. 00:15:02:00 - 00:15:02:09 Sorry. 00:15:02:09 - 00:15:03:13 On videos 00:15:03:13 - 00:15:04:13 and, like, in things 00:15:04:13 - 00:15:05:12 instead of just me. 00:15:05:12 - 00:15:06:10 Just Jessica. 00:15:06:10 - 00:15:07:06 That's the leader. 00:15:07:06 - 00:15:08:07 They want to see students. 00:15:08:07 - 00:15:09:02 And when they see students, 00:15:09:02 - 00:15:10:02 they're more attentive 00:15:10:02 - 00:15:10:17 to watch 00:15:10:17 - 00:15:11:07 and kind of 00:15:11:07 - 00:15:12:10 participate with it 00:15:12:10 - 00:15:13:16 when when they're there 00:15:13:16 - 00:15:14:02 instead of 00:15:14:02 - 00:15:14:21 just adults 00:15:14:21 - 00:15:16:01 kind of sharing recaps 00:15:16:01 - 00:15:16:12 or whatever 00:15:16:12 - 00:15:18:02 that may look like, you know? 00:15:18:02 - 00:15:18:17 So I've learned that 00:15:18:17 - 00:15:19:16 kind of the hard way 00:15:19:16 - 00:15:21:09 a little bit, you know, so. 00:15:21:09 - 00:15:21:24 Yeah, for sure. 00:15:21:24 - 00:15:24:02 And we’re all just trying stuff, right? 00:15:24:02 - 00:15:26:04 Like what I did, when I moved here 00:15:26:04 - 00:15:29:20 I guess just about two years ago, now 00:15:29:20 - 00:15:31:23 when I moved here like 00:15:31:23 - 00:15:33:15 my strategy that I brought in is 00:15:33:15 - 00:15:35:18 not the same strategy that I have today 00:15:35:18 - 00:15:38:04 So, as you get going 00:15:38:04 - 00:15:40:02 and I think that’s a good encouragement too 00:15:40:02 - 00:15:41:07 back to the question a minute ago 00:15:41:07 - 00:15:42:14 like just get started 00:15:42:14 - 00:15:43:03 Yeah. 00:15:43:03 - 00:15:44:02 and once you get started 00:15:44:02 - 00:15:45:08 you’ll start to like uncover things 00:15:45:08 - 00:15:46:08 that you didn’t know 00:15:46:08 - 00:15:46:23 Right? Like 00:15:46:23 - 00:15:47:23 a great example 00:15:47:23 - 00:15:50:14 in our context is 00:15:50:14 - 00:15:52:00 we had a resident, Caleb 00:15:52:00 - 00:15:52:18 two videos ago 00:15:52:18 - 00:15:53:05 I’ll link it right here 00:15:53:05 - 00:15:54:02 Caleb 00:15:54:02 - 00:15:55:10 But he 00:15:55:10 - 00:15:56:18 had this idea 00:15:56:18 - 00:15:59:02 about this thing called the Social Challenge 00:15:59:02 - 00:16:00:10 and we would do a film 00:16:00:10 - 00:16:02:08 a filming of it every single Wednesday night 00:16:02:08 - 00:16:04:01 and he wanted that to be like 00:16:04:01 - 00:16:05:21 a long form version of a YouTube video 00:16:05:21 - 00:16:06:21 and so 00:16:06:21 - 00:16:08:17 we did that for a semester 00:16:08:17 - 00:16:10:15 and I mean, that, that 00:16:10:15 - 00:16:12:01 project would eat his lunch 00:16:12:01 - 00:16:13:11 cuz he would do it on a Wednesday night 00:16:13:11 - 00:16:15:00 and then he would work all day 00:16:15:00 - 00:16:16:14 on a Thursday on it 00:16:16:14 - 00:16:17:22 and he didn’t work on Fridays 00:16:17:22 - 00:16:19:15 so like his whole Thursday 00:16:19:15 - 00:16:22:08 was eaten up by getting this social challenge edited 00:16:22:08 - 00:16:23:05 posted 00:16:23:05 - 00:16:25:03 up and live on YouTube 00:16:25:03 - 00:16:27:03 and. But we, so we 00:16:27:03 - 00:16:29:03 killed the long-form version of it 00:16:29:03 - 00:16:30:10 because it was like the 00:16:30:10 - 00:16:32:19 time factor. Like the immediacy of it 00:16:32:19 - 00:16:35:07 But we shifted it to more short style 00:16:35:07 - 00:16:36:07 more challenge style 00:16:36:07 - 00:16:38:03 and what that’s done 00:16:38:03 - 00:16:39:12 is that has like 00:16:39:12 - 00:16:41:11 you said, that has put so many more 00:16:41:11 - 00:16:42:18 students on our 00:16:42:18 - 00:16:43:12 platform 00:16:43:12 - 00:16:45:08 so we’ve taken the same block of time 00:16:45:08 - 00:16:46:19 that we would have taken to shoot 00:16:46:19 - 00:16:47:24 one big long video 00:16:47:24 - 00:16:49:21 and we’ll just shoot like 5 00:16:49:21 - 00:16:50:06 Okay. 00:16:50:06 - 00:16:50:24 Five shorts. 00:16:50:24 - 00:16:52:15 And then we can just bank them 00:16:52:15 - 00:16:54:00 And so we got em 00:16:54:00 - 00:16:54:20 Like I got in my 00:16:54:20 - 00:16:56:19 folder right now, I got like 00:16:56:19 - 00:16:57:19 5 or 6 00:16:57:19 - 00:16:59:06 of like a certain style of game 00:16:59:06 - 00:17:00:06 we call them drafts 00:17:00:06 - 00:17:01:04 and then I got 5 or 6 00:17:01:04 - 00:17:02:10 of another certain style of game 00:17:02:10 - 00:17:03:15 we call it 7 Questions 00:17:03:15 - 00:17:04:10 Yeah. 00:17:04:10 - 00:17:05:09 And so like I have 00:17:05:09 - 00:17:07:17 Some pretty like set 00:17:07:17 - 00:17:09:06 what I post every day 00:17:09:06 - 00:17:11:00 and when I post certain things 00:17:11:00 - 00:17:11:23 but like 00:17:11:23 - 00:17:13:06 when I don’t have something 00:17:13:06 - 00:17:14:19 or when I need something to kinda 00:17:14:19 - 00:17:15:08 fill the gaps 00:17:15:08 - 00:17:16:03 like I got those 00:17:16:03 - 00:17:16:08 Yeah. 00:17:16:08 - 00:17:16:11 Yeah. 00:17:16:11 - 00:17:17:01 They’re just sitting 00:17:17:01 - 00:17:17:22 right there. And so 00:17:17:22 - 00:17:20:06 we stumbled into that 00:17:20:06 - 00:17:21:18 Right? Like what we started with 00:17:21:18 - 00:17:23:03 the idea of the social challenge 00:17:23:03 - 00:17:23:24 what we started with 00:17:23:24 - 00:17:25:12 is not what it is now 00:17:25:12 - 00:17:26:01 Yeah. 00:17:26:01 - 00:17:27:09 And what’s cool, is like 00:17:27:09 - 00:17:29:08 it, in the room 00:17:29:08 - 00:17:30:13 like in our programming 00:17:30:13 - 00:17:32:02 it’s still called the same thing 00:17:32:02 - 00:17:33:02 from when it started 00:17:33:02 - 00:17:34:15 to what it is today 00:17:34:15 - 00:17:36:14 we still call it the “Social Challenge” 00:17:36:14 - 00:17:37:20 so students know what it is 00:17:37:20 - 00:17:39:16 and students know there’s an opportunity 00:17:39:16 - 00:17:40:16 for them to compete 00:17:40:16 - 00:17:41:23 and get on camera 00:17:41:23 - 00:17:43:05 and they love that stuff 00:17:43:05 - 00:17:43:20 That's awesome. 00:17:43:20 - 00:17:45:12 And it’s opt-in-able 00:17:45:12 - 00:17:46:11 though, ya know? 00:17:46:11 - 00:17:47:19 and that’s the nice part 00:17:47:19 - 00:17:49:00 is like we say, “Hey” 00:17:49:00 - 00:17:50:18 “During free time, if anyone wants 00:17:50:18 - 00:17:52:01 to come do the Social Challenge 00:17:52:01 - 00:17:53:09 we’ll be back here in this room.” 00:17:53:09 - 00:17:56:10 And so it’s not forced 00:17:56:10 - 00:17:56:19 Yeah. 00:17:56:19 - 00:17:57:06 We’re not making anyone 00:17:57:06 - 00:17:58:12 who is shy or whatever 00:17:58:12 - 00:17:59:06 have to get on it 00:17:59:06 - 00:17:59:24 But then you know 00:17:59:24 - 00:18:01:19 there’s definitely kids who DO want to be on it 00:18:01:19 - 00:18:02:12 Yeah. 00:18:02:12 - 00:18:03:19 And they’re like banging down the door 00:18:03:19 - 00:18:04:07 to get in there 00:18:04:07 - 00:18:05:00 Do you have, like, 00:18:05:00 - 00:18:06:07 the same, like, 00:18:06:07 - 00:18:07:15 smaller, kind of smaller 00:18:07:15 - 00:18:08:03 group of students 00:18:08:03 - 00:18:08:12 that always 00:18:08:12 - 00:18:09:05 want to be on videos? 00:18:09:05 - 00:18:09:23 Or do you have a pretty good 00:18:09:23 - 00:18:10:17 variety of students? 00:18:10:17 - 00:18:11:13 I want to be on videos 00:18:11:13 - 00:18:12:12 because I feel like it's 00:18:12:12 - 00:18:13:07 kind of slim for me. 00:18:13:07 - 00:18:14:02 of kids that actually 00:18:14:02 - 00:18:16:12 want to be on video. 00:18:16:12 - 00:18:17:19 Yeah, I mean it’s 00:18:17:19 - 00:18:19:05 Yeah, I think it’s 00:18:19:05 - 00:18:20:12 the same kinda group 00:18:20:12 - 00:18:21:02 Yeah. 00:18:21:02 - 00:18:22:13 the same like middle school 00:18:22:13 - 00:18:23:02 boys 00:18:23:02 - 00:18:23:23 Yeah. 00:18:23:23 - 00:18:24:18 like the kid who edited 00:18:24:18 - 00:18:26:02 is the kid who’s always on ‘em, too. 00:18:26:03 - 00:18:26:18 Yeah yeah 00:18:26:18 - 00:18:27:08 yeah yeah. 00:18:27:08 - 00:18:28:07 Like he’s a 00:18:28:07 - 00:18:31:07 he’s very camera hungry 00:18:31:07 - 00:18:32:14 Yeah yeah. 00:18:32:14 - 00:18:33:12 And that’s ok 00:18:33:12 - 00:18:35:01 everyone’s gonna go through waves 00:18:35:01 - 00:18:35:22 this kid doesn’t 00:18:35:22 - 00:18:38:20 he’s a 6th grade-7th grade boy 00:18:38:20 - 00:18:41:03 he’s not insecure about anything 00:18:41:03 - 00:18:41:21 That's awesome 00:18:41:21 - 00:18:42:24 But like one day he will be 00:18:42:24 - 00:18:46:01 He probably won’t be that kid 00:18:46:01 - 00:18:48:10 for his entire youth ministry career 00:18:48:10 - 00:18:49:04 Right? 00:18:49:04 - 00:18:51:07 And so like, you just 00:18:51:07 - 00:18:53:13 that’s the nice part is you can offer that 00:18:53:13 - 00:18:55:00 and if you got kids 00:18:55:00 - 00:18:56:20 The other fun thing we’ve started to do 00:18:56:20 - 00:18:58:21 Beyond just 00:18:58:21 - 00:19:00:06 being on camera 00:19:00:06 - 00:19:01:17 is like helping run the camera 00:19:01:17 - 00:19:04:06 And so like maybe they don’t wanna be on the camera 00:19:04:06 - 00:19:06:04 but maybe they can be like behind the scenes 00:19:06:04 - 00:19:06:23 or edit 00:19:06:23 - 00:19:07:14 Yeah. 00:19:07:14 - 00:19:08:23 And that- students love 00:19:08:23 - 00:19:10:14 getting a chance to do that 00:19:10:14 - 00:19:12:10 And the more, I guess the older I’m getting 00:19:12:10 - 00:19:13:23 the more I’m trying to figure out, like “How can I 00:19:13:23 - 00:19:16:08 not just do student ministry 00:19:16:08 - 00:19:16:24 for students, 00:19:16:24 - 00:19:17:13 but how can I 00:19:17:13 - 00:19:19:03 let students do student ministry for students?” 00:19:19:03 - 00:19:19:23 That's good. 00:19:19:23 - 00:19:23:14 So that’s one of the things we’re trying to pursue 00:19:23:14 - 00:19:25:10 But Nate, tell me what 00:19:25:10 - 00:19:27:12 in your context has 00:19:27:12 - 00:19:30:13 been the most fun, or most effective thing? 00:19:30:13 - 00:19:31:08 that you’ve done 00:19:31:08 - 00:19:32:19 just with regard to digital 00:19:32:19 - 00:19:33:11 it doesn’t have to be 00:19:33:11 - 00:19:35:18 social media- anything, it can be anything 00:19:35:18 - 00:19:38:09 any sort of thing in the digital space 00:19:38:09 - 00:19:40:04 Well, I'll be honest. 00:19:40:04 - 00:19:41:16 I've really recently 00:19:41:16 - 00:19:43:10 kind of started a. And this. 00:19:43:10 - 00:19:43:22 I don't even know 00:19:43:22 - 00:19:44:18 if you consider this 00:19:44:18 - 00:19:45:11 what you're looking at, 00:19:45:11 - 00:19:47:17 but I started a Snapchat, 00:19:47:17 - 00:19:50:03 group with our students, 00:19:50:03 - 00:19:51:12 and I go, hey, invite. 00:19:51:12 - 00:19:53:00 And that's a it's 00:19:53:00 - 00:19:53:24 me social media 00:19:53:24 - 00:19:54:20 invite 00:19:54:20 - 00:19:56:00 anyone that is 00:19:56:00 - 00:19:57:19 that is not that 00:19:57:19 - 00:19:59:01 I don't have access to 00:19:59:01 - 00:20:00:16 into this group chat. 00:20:00:16 - 00:20:01:19 And people are just adding 00:20:01:19 - 00:20:02:15 people as we go. 00:20:02:15 - 00:20:03:12 And as soon as I add 00:20:03:12 - 00:20:03:24 someone else 00:20:03:24 - 00:20:04:16 and they have friends 00:20:04:16 - 00:20:06:06 that are from CSM, I'm them. 00:20:06:06 - 00:20:06:22 And it's like 00:20:06:22 - 00:20:08:00 the group is grown, 00:20:08:00 - 00:20:08:17 but the more people 00:20:08:17 - 00:20:09:02 that are in there, 00:20:09:02 - 00:20:10:04 the more it gets blown up. 00:20:10:04 - 00:20:10:22 It's been fun to 00:20:10:22 - 00:20:11:13 just kind of see it 00:20:11:13 - 00:20:12:18 expand slowly 00:20:12:18 - 00:20:13:08 throughout 00:20:13:08 - 00:20:14:15 the last couple weeks. 00:20:14:15 - 00:20:14:21 That's 00:20:14:21 - 00:20:15:04 something that 00:20:15:04 - 00:20:16:01 I'm excited about 00:20:16:01 - 00:20:17:06 because it's like it's 00:20:17:06 - 00:20:18:08 a different way of connecting. 00:20:18:08 - 00:20:19:04 We have GroupMe 00:20:19:04 - 00:20:19:19 and we connect through 00:20:19:19 - 00:20:20:24 GroupMe mainly, 00:20:20:24 - 00:20:22:00 but I think Snapchat 00:20:22:00 - 00:20:22:23 should have a funner, 00:20:22:23 - 00:20:25:07 like fun, fun way to like 00:20:25:07 - 00:20:26:12 send funny pictures 00:20:26:12 - 00:20:27:15 and whatever. 00:20:27:15 - 00:20:28:16 Like you can best group 00:20:28:16 - 00:20:29:10 like this 00:20:29:10 - 00:20:30:23 kid was blown it up 00:20:30:23 - 00:20:32:11 with with like 00:20:32:11 - 00:20:33:24 filters of people's faces 00:20:33:24 - 00:20:35:09 being all distorted and stuff. 00:20:35:09 - 00:20:36:23 And just as he's being goofy 00:20:36:23 - 00:20:37:19 and I don't know 00:20:37:19 - 00:20:38:13 if that answers your question 00:20:38:13 - 00:20:39:08 the way you wanted me to, 00:20:39:08 - 00:20:40:14 but it's just, you know. 00:20:40:14 - 00:20:41:03 Yeah, no, it’s great! 00:20:41:03 - 00:20:42:02 I mean it’s 00:20:42:02 - 00:20:43:01 that’s the thing, like 00:20:43:01 - 00:20:44:09 every church is different, right? 00:20:44:09 - 00:20:45:17 So I’m not going into this with any sorta 00:20:45:17 - 00:20:46:19 like agenda 00:20:46:19 - 00:20:47:09 I’m just tryina get 00:20:47:09 - 00:20:50:04 to know what real youth pastors 00:20:50:04 - 00:20:51:14 and real churches are doing 00:20:51:14 - 00:20:53:12 like to connect with students 00:20:53:12 - 00:20:55:00 and that’s a great example, because 00:20:55:00 - 00:20:57:10 youth ministry 15 years ago 00:20:57:10 - 00:20:58:06 like you don’t have that 00:20:58:06 - 00:20:58:16 opportunity 00:20:58:16 - 00:20:59:10 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:20:59:10 - 00:21:01:02 Whether 00:21:01:02 - 00:21:02:09 Cuz like our church 00:21:02:09 - 00:21:03:18 doesn’t let us use Snapchat 00:21:03:18 - 00:21:04:10 Oh, really? 00:21:04:10 - 00:21:06:01 Whether it’s Snapchat 00:21:06:01 - 00:21:07:10 or whether it’s GroupMe 00:21:07:10 - 00:21:08:16 or whether it’s a Group Message 00:21:08:16 - 00:21:11:09 or whether it’s an Instagram DM Group 00:21:12:15 - 00:21:13:18 The concept 00:21:13:18 - 00:21:14:22 is a group message 00:21:14:22 - 00:21:15:14 Yeah. 00:21:15:14 - 00:21:17:15 You and I, if we were youth pastors 00:21:17:15 - 00:21:18:14 fifteen years ago 00:21:18:14 - 00:21:20:12 we don’t have that opportunity 00:21:20:12 - 00:21:21:01 Yeah. 00:21:21:01 - 00:21:22:11 That doesn’t exist 00:21:22:11 - 00:21:24:19 And so, that’s why I say 00:21:24:19 - 00:21:26:19 it’s so important for youth pastors to just 00:21:26:19 - 00:21:27:22 figure something out, because 00:21:27:22 - 00:21:29:19 look at that opportunity 00:21:29:19 - 00:21:31:06 like you have a chance to 00:21:31:06 - 00:21:32:23 message your students 00:21:32:23 - 00:21:34:22 on like a Tuesday morning 00:21:34:22 - 00:21:35:12 Yeah. 00:21:35:12 - 00:21:36:06 like otherwise you would have 00:21:36:06 - 00:21:37:03 had to wait for them to 00:21:37:03 - 00:21:37:17 Yeah. 00:21:37:17 - 00:21:38:17 come to you 00:21:38:17 - 00:21:40:01 to be a captive audience 00:21:40:01 - 00:21:40:12 Yeah. 00:21:40:12 - 00:21:42:03 But now we have the ability to 00:21:42:03 - 00:21:43:14 And there’s like 00:21:43:14 - 00:21:45:09 there’s checks and balances within that 00:21:45:09 - 00:21:47:01 and there’s times where that can get abused 00:21:47:01 - 00:21:48:11 but at the end of the day, like 00:21:48:11 - 00:21:50:00 The opportunity that we have is fantastic 00:21:50:00 - 00:21:50:09 Yeah. 00:21:50:09 - 00:21:51:20 So, it’s 00:21:51:20 - 00:21:53:19 Important I think to lean into that 00:21:53:19 - 00:21:54:21 We should ask our dad 00:21:54:21 - 00:21:55:13 how he did that 00:21:55:13 - 00:21:56:18 when he was a youth pastor. 00:21:56:18 - 00:21:58:05 You know, just to see for him. 00:21:58:05 - 00:21:59:02 Fifteen years ago? 00:21:59:02 - 00:21:59:08 What? 00:21:59:08 - 00:22:00:05 Because he was doing it. What? 00:22:00:05 - 00:22:01:05 It was like not many. 00:22:01:05 - 00:22:02:05 There wasn't cell phones, 00:22:02:05 - 00:22:02:12 you know. 00:22:02:12 - 00:22:03:08 So how do you. 00:22:03:08 - 00:22:04:16 Well yeah, you just didn’t 00:22:04:16 - 00:22:05:16 do a group chat 00:22:05:16 - 00:22:06:03 Yeah. 00:22:06:03 - 00:22:08:00 It was all about the in-person 00:22:08:00 - 00:22:08:12 It was. 00:22:08:12 - 00:22:09:01 Yeah. 00:22:09:01 - 00:22:11:08 And that’s the struggle 00:22:11:08 - 00:22:13:14 Right? Like the struggle now 00:22:13:14 - 00:22:14:22 sometimes when 00:22:14:22 - 00:22:16:07 you introduce an idea of digital 00:22:16:07 - 00:22:18:13 there may be an older 00:22:18:13 - 00:22:21:03 generation or demographic 00:22:21:03 - 00:22:24:00 that remembers it done a different way 00:22:24:00 - 00:22:26:19 And no shade on that or them 00:22:26:19 - 00:22:28:06 but the fact is we just 00:22:28:06 - 00:22:29:14 live in a different day 00:22:29:14 - 00:22:30:21 And so 00:22:30:21 - 00:22:33:02 and whatever 00:22:33:02 - 00:22:36:12 And so however they were doing things before 00:22:36:12 - 00:22:39:03 teenagers have zero concept of that today 00:22:39:03 - 00:22:39:08 Yeah. 00:22:39:08 - 00:22:39:21 Yeah, yeah. 00:22:39:21 - 00:22:41:09 They are digital natives 00:22:41:09 - 00:22:42:15 and digital dependents 00:22:42:15 - 00:22:44:07 And so to 00:22:44:07 - 00:22:45:12 not have something 00:22:45:12 - 00:22:48:04 Right? And that’s the thing when I hear arguments 00:22:48:04 - 00:22:49:11 from youth pastors who say: 00:22:49:11 - 00:22:50:20 “Well, I don’t use social” 00:22:50:20 - 00:22:52:08 “Well do you have a group chat?” 00:22:52:08 - 00:22:53:08 “Well yeah we have a group chat!” 00:22:53:08 - 00:22:54:22 “Well, you’re doing something!” 00:22:54:22 - 00:22:56:10 You’re not doing nothing 00:22:56:10 - 00:22:57:24 And so there’s 00:22:57:24 - 00:23:00:08 That’s the thing I love, I love that 00:23:00:08 - 00:23:02:17 the sky is legitimately the limit 00:23:02:17 - 00:23:05:06 Wherever your creativity will lead you 00:23:05:06 - 00:23:06:06 in today’s day-in-age 00:23:06:06 - 00:23:07:19 you can do 00:23:07:19 - 00:23:08:17 you can do anything 00:23:08:17 - 00:23:10:12 Right? And it can be 00:23:10:12 - 00:23:12:19 as robust of a strategy as you want 00:23:12:19 - 00:23:13:24 or it can be as like 00:23:13:24 - 00:23:16:14 paired down and focused on your kids 00:23:16:14 - 00:23:18:21 Both are great, I think 00:23:18:21 - 00:23:19:17 Yeah. 00:23:19:17 - 00:23:21:14 So last thing, Nate 00:23:21:14 - 00:23:23:03 How do you 00:23:23:03 - 00:23:24:15 know something’s working? 00:23:24:15 - 00:23:27:08 Like when you post something 00:23:27:08 - 00:23:29:07 Or- how do you know when like 00:23:29:07 - 00:23:31:11 that was good. That was a win? 00:23:31:11 - 00:23:33:13 What are some of the things that 00:23:33:13 - 00:23:34:24 you look for, whether it be 00:23:34:24 - 00:23:37:03 like metrics, like number type things 00:23:37:03 - 00:23:38:05 Or even just like 00:23:38:05 - 00:23:39:17 the word on the street 00:23:39:17 - 00:23:41:06 or the scuttlebutt that you might hear like 00:23:41:06 - 00:23:43:08 in the hallways of church 00:23:43:08 - 00:23:44:12 I think I see 00:23:44:12 - 00:23:45:18 people share things. 00:23:45:18 - 00:23:47:03 Even if it's not a lot of shares. 00:23:47:03 - 00:23:48:10 Like, there's, like, adult, 00:23:48:10 - 00:23:50:08 like adults that are in our 00:23:50:08 - 00:23:50:22 our ministry 00:23:50:22 - 00:23:52:01 that kind of see this stuff, 00:23:52:01 - 00:23:53:07 and they'll share it. 00:23:53:07 - 00:23:53:24 Or student 00:23:53:24 - 00:23:55:14 and multiple students like it. 00:23:55:14 - 00:23:56:14 We have a good amount of like 00:23:56:14 - 00:23:56:21 we have a good 00:23:56:21 - 00:23:57:21 amount of views. 00:23:57:21 - 00:23:58:10 If there's a good 00:23:58:10 - 00:23:59:00 amount of views, 00:23:59:00 - 00:23:59:14 it means that it's 00:23:59:14 - 00:24:00:13 kind of catching on. 00:24:00:13 - 00:24:00:24 Honestly, 00:24:00:24 - 00:24:02:09 I do a lot more reels, 00:24:02:09 - 00:24:03:15 even for like picture 00:24:03:15 - 00:24:05:04 on new picture reels. 00:24:05:04 - 00:24:06:14 And they they're, 00:24:06:14 - 00:24:07:03 they're ones 00:24:07:03 - 00:24:07:17 that kind of 00:24:07:17 - 00:24:08:11 just to kind of show 00:24:08:11 - 00:24:08:17 like what 00:24:08:17 - 00:24:09:02 we've done 00:24:09:02 - 00:24:10:08 in the night of CSM. 00:24:10:08 - 00:24:11:00 I like to do like 00:24:11:00 - 00:24:12:03 recap videos of 00:24:12:03 - 00:24:13:07 like what we did 00:24:13:07 - 00:24:14:06 that last night 00:24:14:06 - 00:24:16:01 at CSM or today or whatever, 00:24:16:01 - 00:24:17:10 just kind of show people 00:24:17:10 - 00:24:19:02 kind of quickly and pictures 00:24:19:02 - 00:24:20:10 of what we've been up to you. 00:24:20:10 - 00:24:21:19 And I think I don't 00:24:21:19 - 00:24:22:21 I think our adults 00:24:22:21 - 00:24:23:21 like parents and, 00:24:23:21 - 00:24:25:01 and the adults in the church 00:24:25:01 - 00:24:26:03 want to see what's going on 00:24:26:03 - 00:24:27:05 with the students. 00:24:27:05 - 00:24:27:23 And when the adults 00:24:27:23 - 00:24:28:17 are encouraged 00:24:28:17 - 00:24:30:00 and and feel 00:24:30:00 - 00:24:31:20 uplifted by students, 00:24:31:20 - 00:24:33:20 inspire inspiring others 00:24:33:20 - 00:24:35:19 to come and and lead 00:24:35:19 - 00:24:36:17 and leading their friends 00:24:36:17 - 00:24:37:20 to Christ and 00:24:37:20 - 00:24:39:17 and getting on stage on Sunday 00:24:39:17 - 00:24:40:01 morning 00:24:40:01 - 00:24:41:12 and leading worship and 00:24:41:12 - 00:24:42:20 and when they get on 00:24:42:20 - 00:24:44:03 stage on Sunday morning 00:24:44:03 - 00:24:45:15 and and share 00:24:45:15 - 00:24:46:14 the announcements 00:24:46:14 - 00:24:47:21 in front of the whole church. 00:24:47:21 - 00:24:48:18 that's just 00:24:48:18 - 00:24:49:00 I think 00:24:49:00 - 00:24:49:19 they're inspired by that 00:24:49:19 - 00:24:50:06 and all that. 00:24:50:06 - 00:24:50:19 You know, I, 00:24:50:19 - 00:24:52:20 I, I capture that stuff and, 00:24:52:20 - 00:24:53:12 and then I go on 00:24:53:12 - 00:24:53:24 and share it 00:24:53:24 - 00:24:54:14 with their friends. 00:24:54:14 - 00:24:55:20 Hey, this is something that 00:24:55:20 - 00:24:56:21 that happened in our church. 00:24:56:21 - 00:24:57:22 Our students are doing things. 00:24:57:22 - 00:24:59:03 So it's all related 00:24:59:03 - 00:24:59:21 in the social media 00:24:59:21 - 00:25:00:16 because you captured 00:25:00:16 - 00:25:02:03 the images and then 00:25:02:03 - 00:25:03:13 and then you, 00:25:03:13 - 00:25:04:01 share it on 00:25:04:01 - 00:25:04:23 like your platforms 00:25:04:23 - 00:25:05:18 to kind of show 00:25:05:18 - 00:25:06:20 the world and people 00:25:06:20 - 00:25:07:20 that God's up 00:25:07:20 - 00:25:08:06 to something 00:25:08:06 - 00:25:08:24 at Calvary Student 00:25:08:24 - 00:25:10:20 Ministries and, and just, 00:25:10:20 - 00:25:12:11 yeah, that's mainly it, 00:25:12:11 - 00:25:13:01 I think, is 00:25:13:01 - 00:25:14:22 just seeing people inspire 00:25:14:22 - 00:25:17:08 by what's going on. You know. 00:25:17:08 - 00:25:18:21 Well and think about it 00:25:18:21 - 00:25:20:24 if you didn’t have some sort of creative outlet 00:25:20:24 - 00:25:21:22 to share stuff like that 00:25:21:22 - 00:25:23:07 like how would people know? 00:25:23:07 - 00:25:24:03 cuz if they’re not 00:25:24:03 - 00:25:25:02 They would have no idea. 00:25:25:02 - 00:25:26:19 If they’re not in the room 00:25:26:19 - 00:25:28:13 they don’t know 00:25:28:13 - 00:25:29:08 Exactly. 00:25:29:08 - 00:25:30:02 There’s another 00:25:30:02 - 00:25:31:23 You just stepped in another benefit 00:25:31:23 - 00:25:32:24 Right, like? 00:25:32:24 - 00:25:35:22 People, adults, parents 00:25:35:22 - 00:25:38:18 Pastors, elders 00:25:38:18 - 00:25:40:22 who are not coming to youth group 00:25:40:22 - 00:25:42:08 on Wednesday nights or Sunday nights 00:25:42:08 - 00:25:44:09 Especially not frequently 00:25:44:09 - 00:25:45:14 You can help them 00:25:45:14 - 00:25:48:17 Ya know, that’s a win for you 00:25:48:17 - 00:25:49:23 Maybe as a youth pastor too 00:25:49:23 - 00:25:52:01 Just putting some of that stuff out there 00:25:52:01 - 00:25:53:02 Yeah. 00:25:53:02 - 00:25:54:13 Like Nate said 00:25:54:13 - 00:25:57:17 “It’s not as hard as you think it might be.” 00:25:57:17 - 00:25:59:01 Yeah. 00:25:59:01 - 00:25:59:18 So last word 00:25:59:18 - 00:26:01:13 last final bit of encouragement 00:26:01:13 - 00:26:03:14 What would you say to someone who 00:26:03:14 - 00:26:04:20 is on the fence 00:26:04:20 - 00:26:05:20 Who’s 00:26:05:20 - 00:26:08:00 maybe like you a year and a half ago, is like 00:26:08:00 - 00:26:09:14 “I’m not sure about all this stuff.” 00:26:09:14 - 00:26:11:05 What’s one thing 00:26:11:05 - 00:26:12:19 That you would say like, “Hey, do this” 00:26:12:19 - 00:26:15:18 Just. Just do this one thing 00:26:15:18 - 00:26:18:14 This week? 00:26:18:14 - 00:26:19:23 Yeah, that's a tough question. 00:26:19:23 - 00:26:22:23 I would say like. 00:26:23:02 - 00:26:23:19 Like kind of 00:26:23:19 - 00:26:24:16 like what you said. 00:26:24:16 - 00:26:25:18 Give it a shot 00:26:25:18 - 00:26:26:23 and see if it see 00:26:26:23 - 00:26:27:14 what happens. 00:26:27:14 - 00:26:28:02 I mean, 00:26:28:02 - 00:26:29:00 you're not going to get. 00:26:29:00 - 00:26:30:05 And don't be discouraged 00:26:30:05 - 00:26:30:20 if you don't get 00:26:30:20 - 00:26:31:23 a hundred followers 00:26:31:23 - 00:26:32:22 in the first, 00:26:32:22 - 00:26:34:07 you know, 00:26:34:07 - 00:26:35:09 couple days 00:26:35:09 - 00:26:36:15 or weeks or months even, like, 00:26:36:15 - 00:26:37:07 it takes some time 00:26:37:07 - 00:26:39:07 sometimes and sometimes slowly 00:26:39:07 - 00:26:40:16 growing thing. 00:26:40:16 - 00:26:42:01 But, 00:26:42:01 - 00:26:43:03 I say give it a shot 00:26:43:03 - 00:26:43:19 and just 00:26:43:19 - 00:26:45:08 try it out for a little bit. 00:26:45:08 - 00:26:46:20 And like I said, please 00:26:46:20 - 00:26:48:13 do not be afraid of the time. 00:26:48:13 - 00:26:50:03 Just like engaging it with it. 00:26:50:03 - 00:26:51:17 It's not as bad as you think. 00:26:51:17 - 00:26:52:22 And honestly, like, 00:26:52:22 - 00:26:54:02 I feel like youth 00:26:54:02 - 00:26:56:12 pastors are really called 00:26:56:12 - 00:26:58:00 to this generation 00:26:58:00 - 00:26:58:20 of reaching people 00:26:58:20 - 00:26:59:11 through social media. 00:26:59:11 - 00:27:00:09 That's just where we're at 00:27:00:09 - 00:27:01:06 and in society 00:27:01:06 - 00:27:02:16 where we need to be 00:27:02:16 - 00:27:04:16 on social media in some way. 00:27:04:16 - 00:27:05:10 And I don't even think 00:27:05:10 - 00:27:06:05 that Facebook's really 00:27:06:05 - 00:27:07:11 that platform for students. 00:27:07:11 - 00:27:08:09 It's more for adults 00:27:08:09 - 00:27:09:03 at this at, 00:27:09:03 - 00:27:10:04 you know, Facebook's 00:27:10:04 - 00:27:12:03 more of an adult thing. 00:27:12:03 - 00:27:14:00 And so just find that avenue 00:27:14:00 - 00:27:14:22 that you can, 00:27:14:22 - 00:27:15:24 get started 00:27:15:24 - 00:27:16:17 with and connect them 00:27:16:17 - 00:27:17:16 together, connect your 00:27:17:16 - 00:27:18:08 link, your, 00:27:18:08 - 00:27:18:22 you know, your 00:27:18:22 - 00:27:19:16 platforms together 00:27:19:16 - 00:27:20:11 so it's easier for you 00:27:20:11 - 00:27:21:17 to post multiple things. 00:27:21:17 - 00:27:23:03 You got this. 00:27:23:03 - 00:27:24:04 The church needs you. 00:27:24:04 - 00:27:24:19 You know. 00:27:24:19 - 00:27:25:08 Yeah 00:27:25:08 - 00:27:26:05 Love it 00:27:26:05 - 00:27:27:08 Love it, well hey 00:27:27:08 - 00:27:29:04 thanks for being on this morning 00:27:29:04 - 00:27:30:08 Thanks for getting up early 00:27:30:08 - 00:27:30:12 Yeah. 00:27:30:12 - 00:27:31:03 I mean, I. 00:27:31:03 - 00:27:34:06 And uh- and yeah 00:27:34:06 - 00:27:34:21 Love you, brother. 00:27:34:21 - 00:27:36:07 Hey, we'll stay in touch. 00:27:36:07 - 00:27:37:19 You too! 00:27:37:19 - 00:27:40:12 Hey! Stay Hybrid!