<p>Bart tells his story at the progressive Christian Wild Goose Festival.</p>

616: Using emotional intelligence like a hostage negotiator, with Derek Gaunt

A podcast about making the most of this life by reframing your story, building better relationships, and cultivating wonder and gratitude. Hosted by longtime counselor and community builder Bart Campolo, the show features warm, thoughtful conversations about generating love and meaning in a universe that doesn’t always provide it.