In this episode, Sue and Mike are joined by Ian, a Chartered Professional Accountant (CPA) and person in long term recovery. Ian shares his insight on how addiction can manifest with finances and how money/finances can be influenced by both addiction and recovery. He talks about how budgeting is like a goal or financial boundary that supports health and recovery vs. feeling a sense of deprivation. Benefits, challenges, and key take aways are alls discussed throughout the podcast.  If we want to make changes in our lives, we need to know where we are today. Everyone can benefit from a personal budget, not just those struggling financially.