
Many aspects of how companies hire talent have been set in stone and unquestioned for decades. Even if Talent Acquisition wants to drive change, the power of accepted wisdom among hiring managers and the C-Suite is difficult to challenge. So what happens when the CEO of a business champions a completely different way of doing things?
My guest this week is Jeff Dewing, Group CEO at Cloudfm. Jeff's story is amazing, and his approach to business is encapsulated in the title of his book, "Doing The Opposite." When it comes to hiring, Jeff has challenged conventional wisdom around interviews and skills head-on with some spectacular results. I loved this conversation, and it is an absolute must-listen for everyone.
In the interview, we discuss:
Jeff's rollercoaster journey to get where he is today
Where everyone needs autonomy, mastery, and purpose
Why Cloudfm no longer use interviews in their hiring process and what they do instead of
Removing the risk in hiring
Achieving a 95% recruitment retention rate
Individual career plans and ups killing
Giving people autonomy about how and where they work.
The office as a creative, problem-solving collaboration space
The impact AI will have on the future.
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May 3, 2024
30 min

This week on TRF
Recording from the beautiful city of Toronto where we met some of the smartest TA professionals in the Country. Thank you Plum, AMS and Humanly.io for organizing a great dinner.
Text message mania, first hand experience with scammers texting job offers and is legitimate recruiters.
In the News
LinkedIn is requiring Recruiters to verify their profile - smart move!
US bans TikTok and give them 270 days or they are out
Tip of the Week
Best practices for in house referral success.
Recruiting Insights
Pros and cons of 2 major firms in the UK who publish their interview questions
94% of US business leaders surveyed “Simply wont hire GenZ” Why do they have such high demands in the workplace
We cherry pick thru Hung Lee’s 10 essentials of candidate response rate.
May 3, 2024
40 min

Round Up is the monthly show on The Recruiting Future Podcast channel that highlights episodes you may have missed and gives my take on some of the key learnings from the guests.
Episodes mentioned in this Round Up:
Ep 604: Building Talent Pipelines With Internships
Ep 605: Can AI Be Biased? Legal Implications for Hiring
Ep 606: Empowering Gen Z & Building A Social Brand
Ep 607: AI Powered Talent Acquisition
Ep 608: Transforming HR
Ep 609: Building A Neuro-Inclusive Hiring Process
Ep 610: Future Skills
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May 2, 2024
11 min

Welcome to the “HAPPY REBELS,” episode a no-holds-barred journey through the chaotic, snark-filled corridors of human resources with the fearless Rika Coppens at the helm. As CEO of House of HR, Rika tears down conventional walls, sometimes literally, all while her company pulls in cool billions. Want to learn how to balance being a Happy Rebel and a powerhouse CEO? Or maybe just figure out whether chatbots are killing your vibe more than your operational inefficiencies? Dive into the depths of European HR like never before, from the comfort of your own headphones. Forget the bland and the boring—here, it’s all about shocking stats, bold strategies, and a sprinkle of HR snark, because who says employment strategies have to be dry? Not us, and certainly not Rika. Buckle up; it’s going to be a rebelliously enlightening ride!
May 1, 2024
28 min

Tune in to witness Rodney Gilmore, sports analyst by day and aspiring legal eagle by night. From his childhood streets of Oakland to the polished floors of ESPN, Rodney dishes on everything from racial dynamics to the heartbreaking rigors of choosing the right tie for broadcast. As they dive into topics like unconscious bias and diversity, prepare for a rollercoaster of "did they really just say that?" moments. Whether it's reminiscing about the good old days of juggling footballs and law books, or unraveling the enigma of ESPN’s cultural evolution from boys' club to big tent. Expect a mix of nostalgia, name-dropping, and nuanced takes on why college athletes should maybe, possibly, get a slice of the revenue pie. Don't miss out on this exhilarating exploration of sports, law, and the art of staying relevant in both.
May 1, 2024
1 hr 4 min

It's becoming evident that we are at a critical pivot point for talent acquisition. While the debates around AI are sucking up most of the attention, massive shifts are happening in terms of the shelf life of skills, ongoing challenges with skills acquisition, and upskilling people for a very different future world of work.
So, how should employers think about skills, and how can talent acquisition gain the future focus it needs to drive organizational value?
My guest this week is Lisa Monteith, Head of Talent Acquisition and onboarding for HSBC UK. In our wide-ranging conversation, we talk about the skills challenges facing organizations and the importance of taking a long-term view.
In the interview, we discuss:
Current talent acquisition challenges
Selling work as a product
The shortening lifespan of skills
Providing easy access to learning
Total talent thinking
Learning agility, curiosity, and other skills for the future
Failing education systems and disappearing entry-level jobs
Individual responsibility for learning
Neuroinclusion in the recruiting process and the danger of homogenization
How does talent acquisition need to re-invent itself for the future?
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Apr 30, 2024
25 min

In this episode, Desiree Goldey, director, talent operations & culture at ZRG Partners, dives into the transformation of talent acquisition (TA) from a cost center to a revenue driver. She underscores the pivotal role of data in showcasing TA's contribution to revenue growth through metrics like cost per hire and quality of hire. Goldey emphasizes the need for HR and TA to collaborate closely with other departments, such as marketing, to enhance overall efficiency. She also touches on the impact of automation on recruiting processes and the future of HR in a more automated and flexible landscape. Goldey advocates for updating outdated processes and embracing a hybrid work model for better talent management. She concludes with a call for data-driven decision-making in HR and TA, especially in diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts.
Apr 29, 2024
29 min

Somewhere between 15% and 20% of the population is neurodivergent. The majority have yet to receive a formal diagnosis, and a significant number of those with a diagnosis choose not to share it publically. Over the last few years, we've seen a growing number of employers taking steps to be more neuro-inclusive, which is great to see. However, there is still a long way to go with recruiting, as most hiring processes contain significant barriers for neurodiverse people. There is also a danger that the move to AI-driven recruiting may make things worse if neuro-inclusion isn't proactively prioritized.
So, what steps can employers take to embed neuro-inclusion in their recruiting processes effectively?
My guest this week is Tania Martin, a neuro-inclusion consultant who was previously Head of EY's Neuro-Diverse Centre of Excellence in the UK and Ireland. In our conversation, Tania discusses the shortcomings of the traditional recruiting process and how we can rethink it to be better for everyone.
In the interview, we discuss:
Harnessing neurodiversity in the workforce
How EY's Neuro-Diverse Centre of Excellence was set up
Why can making recruiting processes more neuro-inclusive be good for everyone?
Accessing untapped pools of talent
Intimidating job specs
Assessment and spiky profiles
Helping people to show their best selves during the interview process
Educating hiring managers
The role of technology
What will neuro-inclusion look like for future generations in the workforce?
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Apr 26, 2024
29 min

This week, Chad & Cheese discuss various topics including the EEOC targeting Workday, non-competes taking a hit, and the acquisition of Pivot CX by Daxtra. They also talk about their upcoming events in Scotland and Vegas, jumping off the Stratosphere, as well as the ban on TikTok. The conversation covers a range of themes including technology, acquisitions, events, and current news. They discuss recent developments at ZipRecruiter, LinkedIn, and Workday. They also touch on the banning of non-compete agreements, the raising of the salary threshold for overtime eligibility, and the unionization of Volkswagen workers in Chattanooga. The conversation concludes with a discussion on a TikTok influencer partnering with Shake Shack and Chipotle's success with their new chicken offering ... take that, Chik-fil-A.
Apr 26, 2024
55 min

This week on TRF:
Taylor Swift swept the world away with 1 BILLION Spotify streams in 1 week, Shelley was one of them!
And some other news you will need to listen to find out!
IN THE NEWS
The FTC proposal to ban non-competes is ruffling lots of feathers in the US. Just another day in the office here in Canada.
Foreign job seeker interest in Canada is down 40% since mid-2023
Google fires employee who bring their politics to work & protest at the office, 48 people so far.
More layoffs at Google, Nike and Tesla - all for very different reasons.
TIP OF THE WEEK
Where do you see yourself in 5 years? Dumb question or legit.
RECRUITING INSIGHTS
War for AI talent has been declared. Shots fired from Meta, Google and Amazon have Elon Musk calling it ‘crazy’.
$81,822 is the lowest pay to change jobs. The gap between what men will accept and what women will accept just got even bigger.
Apr 26, 2024
36 min
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