Hoth Takes: A Star Wars Podcast
Hoth Takes: A Star Wars Podcast
Hoth Takes: A Star Wars Podcast
Journalists Eric Geller, Grace Segers, and Haley Byrd Wilt combine their love of debating Star Wars with their professional curiosity, irreverence, and knack for asking hard questions in this freewheeling discussion show about the galaxy far, far away.
71: Hoth Takes #71: Galactic Counterfactuals
Star Wars fans love to debate whether controversial characters are sorely misunderstood or rightfully condemned, and we at Hoth Takes are not immune to that temptation. In this episode, Eric and Grace each present a character they think deserves to be reconsidered. Our conversation delves into Star Wars’s trickiest moral and metaphysical issues — light and dark, fate and free will, emotion and logic, child soldiers and clone servants. If you enjoy exploring gray areas, this episode is for you!
Jun 19
50 min
70: Hoth Takes #70: Din Djesus
Star Wars is back on the big screen for the first time since 2019. But is Jon Favreau’s The Mandalorian and Grogu any good? Eric, Grace, and Haley saw it together on opening weekend and then recorded this discussion minutes after the credits rolled. It’s safe to say we’re still stunned by what we just saw. As we process our thoughts, Eric praises an emotional storyline, Grace critiques the fight sequences, and Haley highlights an unexpected allegory. Plus, we share our reactions — some of them intense — to swole Hutts, faceless acting, and greasy-spoon sandwiches.
May 28
33 min
69: Hoth Takes #69: My Goal Here is That You Fail
We’re bringing you something a little different this time. In our first-ever Star Wars quiz show, Eric, Grace, and Haley take turns quizzing each other on topics of their choice, with questions range from mainstream to incredibly obscure. The competition is intense, expectations are upended, and along the way, we all learn useful information about tasty desert creatures, misleadingly named beverages, and Gonk droids.
Apr 30
44 min
68: Hoth Takes #68: My Pro-Separatist Instagram Feed
For all the attention that the Star Wars movies and TV shows get, one of the biggest ways that people engage with the saga on a daily basis is through video games. Hoth Takes isn’t exactly known for our obsession with that corner of the Star Wars franchise, but that doesn’t mean we don’t respect it — or occasionally partake in it. In this episode, Eric, Haley, and Haley’s friend Chris Estep discuss their history with Star Wars video games and take turns pitching new game ideas. Our games take players from the Tatooine hospitality industry to the center of the Clone Wars to the dawn of the Republic, illuminating — and in some cases redefining — what it means to step into the Star Wars universe.
Mar 18
55 min
67: Hoth Takes #67: We’ll Never Get a David Fincher Ahsoka Movie
Kathleen Kennedy has left Lucasfilm. Dave Filoni and Lynwen Brennan are now co-running the company. What does that mean for the future of Star Wars? In this episode, Bill Kuchman joins Eric and Grace to discuss Kennedy’s legacy, Filoni’s creative style, and how the new leadership arrangement will actually work. Plus: We speculate about the future of artificial intelligence in Star Wars storytelling, and we call on Lucasfilm to rethink its conclusions about recasting iconic roles.
Feb 19
59 min
66: Hoth Takes #66: The Road Not Taken
The start of 2026 means we’re only a few months away from the first Star Wars movie since The Rise of Skywalker. And speaking of the final film in the sequel trilogy, we thought it would be a good time to look back at the original plan for Episode IX: Colin Trevorrow’s “Duel of the Fates” script. In this episode, Haley’s friend Jack Merritt joins us to discuss the highs and lows of Trevorrow’s story, from a worthy role for Finn to a controversial take on the dark side. We also cover Trevorrow’s portrayal of Luke Skywalker, his plan for Kylo Ren, and his use of Coruscant and Mortis. If you like imagining what could have been, this is the episode for you.
Jan 14
54 min
65: Hoth Takes #65: Show Me the First Padawan Braid
Between Andor and the upcoming Mandalorian and Grogu movie, Star Wars is currently leaning into stories about the “regular” people of the galaxy. But what about the Jedi and the Sith, the people at the core of the Skywalker saga that started it all? In this episode, Wired’s Lily Hay Newman joins Eric and Haley to discuss the Jedi and the Sith stories we want to see, the challenges of superhero protagonists, and the value of the Force as a storytelling concept in an increasingly rational world. We explore how Star Wars should balance fantasy and relatability in its portrayal of Force-users, with special praise for some of the franchise’s weirdest Force-adjacent characters and creatures.
Nov 24, 2025
57 min
64: Hoth Takes #64: Do I Not Like Star Wars Anymore?
The teaser trailer for The Mandalorian and Grogu makes it pretty clear that the first Star Wars movie in seven years will be a popcorn flick for Baby Yoda fans of all ages. But how much will hardcore fans get out of the film? Will it meaningfully expand the universe or shed light on the state of the galaxy? And if not, is that even a bad thing? Politico’s Bill Kuchman joins Eric and Haley to analyze the teaser trailer and discuss what we want and expect from the movie. We talk about the challenges of transmedia storytelling, Grogu’s inconsistent maturity, Disney’s marketing strategy, and tiresome nostalgia cameos.
Oct 20, 2025
42 min
63: Hoth Takes #63: Please Don’t Sue Us, Guy Fieri
With few Star Wars film or television projects on the horizon, it’s time to think about how we would fill the void if we were in charge. In this episode: three pitches for revitalizing the Star Wars franchise on the big and small screens. Eric offers a redemption story for an Andor villain, Haley proposes a subversive culinary journey, and Grace imagines a better sequel trilogy. Our ideas lead to conversations both silly and profound, with a lore connection that no one could have seen coming.
Sep 26, 2025
44 min
62: Hoth Takes #62: The Double-Edged Sword of Relevance
Star Wars is in a strange place right now. Many movies have been abandoned, several TV shows have ended or been canceled, and it’s unclear how the projects on the horizon will mesh together. By all accounts, Lucasfilm doesn’t have an overarching vision for the franchise. But does it need one? In this episode, Eric’s old friend Justin Bolger joins him and Grace to discuss the direction of the Star Wars franchise and whether it needs a storytelling czar. We also discuss the way the franchise feels now compared to its pre-Disney heyday, the tradeoffs of socially relevant storytelling, and whether stories with more synergy would exacerbate audiences’ “Star Wars fatigue.” Plus, Grace and Justin bond over their favorite underappreciated TV shows.
Aug 8, 2025
58 min
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