Here’s the real question: What is it that’s keeping your body in a constant state of stress? In this episode of the HEAL with Kelly Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Amy Myers, New York Times bestselling author and functional medicine physician, as she prepares to release the newly revised edition of her groundbreaking book, The Autoimmune Solution. More than a decade after its original release, her wisdom for treating autoimmune conditions is more relevant than ever. Amy shares how her understanding of autoimmunity has evolved through years of treating thousands of patients and navigating her own extraordinary healing journey. From Graves’ disease and repeated toxic mold exposure to PTSD, profound loss, and frightening cancer scares, Amy opens up about the experiences that challenged everything she thought she knew about healing. We explore the potential drivers of autoimmune disease, including gut health, diet, toxins, and infections, alongside the often-overlooked roles of chronic stress, unresolved trauma, and the nervous system. But our discussion goes beyond the physical body. Amy shares the unexpected spiritual experiences that transformed her relationship with fear, safety, and surrender. We also explore leaky gut, gluten and autoimmunity, emerging approaches to health screening, and why two people with the same diagnosis may need entirely different paths toward healing. Ultimately, her story reminds us that healing is never one-size-fits-all. It invites us to look beyond symptoms, trust our intuition, seek out practitioners who support us, and remain open to the many dimensions of healing. Key Moments You’ll Love ✨ : 🏠 [4:57] She Lost Everything to Toxic Mold Four Times in Her Lifetime ✈️ [9:20] She Nearly Couldn’t Board a One Hour Flight — That’s When She Knew It Was PTSD 🧠 [13:21] Her Four Year Old Had No Idea — How She Protected Her Daughter Through All of It 💉 [17:39] 25% of People Have a Gene That Makes Toxic Mold Devastating 🌟 [21:41] She Went to Joe Dispenza Not for Healing But for Her Soul 🍄 [22:43] She Showed Up to a Stranger’s House in the Dark and Surrendered to Genetic Medicine 💡 [24:50] Her Soul Said You Are Here to Help Heal Humanity 🔓 [25:23] Nothing Has Ever Been Wrong With You — and She Finally Believed It 🩺 [32:42] She Walked Into the Oncology Center and Told Them to Keep the Bag 🦠 [42:28] How the Spike Protein Causes Leaky Gut and Triggers Autoimmunity 🎯 [46:35] How to Test Your Spike Protein Levels and What to Do If They’re High 🧬 [49:34] The Drawbridge Explanation of Leaky Gut That Finally Makes It Click LINKS Dr. Amy Myers website:https://www.amymyersmd.com/ Dr. Amy Myers on Instagram @amymyersmd The Autoimmune Solution book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/47grg5w Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when you stop talking about transformation — and actually experience it in real time? Hint: you feel a new type of freedom reverberate through your whole being — or at least that was true for me. In Part Two of my conversation with my dear friend Peter Crone, known as “The Mind Architect,” things get MUCH more personal. I ask Peter to turn the mirror on me and share what patterns, limitations, and blind spots he still sees in me that are operating beneath the surface. And, in true Peter fashion, he goes right there, with honesty and care. If you haven’t listened to Part One yet, I highly recommend starting there. Peter and I explore the unconscious beliefs that keep us stuck in survival mode, our resistance to fear and uncertainty, and what it means to move through life with more presence, freedom, and trust. Part Two picks up right where we left off. What unfolds is less of an interview and more of a real-time exploration of the beliefs we carry, the pressure we put on ourselves, and the ways our past can quietly shape how we move through the present. We explore perfectionism, safety, vulnerability, relationships, purpose, and what it might mean to live with less fear and more freedom. Along the way, Peter challenges some of the ways we typically think about healing, personal growth, and even the idea of becoming a “better” version of ourselves. There was a moment in this conversation when I could viscerally feel something shift in me. And it reminded me that sometimes transformation doesn’t happen because we’ve finally figured everything out — it happens when we’re willing to look at ourselves with a new perspective. This is a vulnerable, surprising, and deeply personal continuation of our conversation — and one I’m excited to share with you. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 💄 [32:33] Peter Calls Out the Obsession With Appearance — Right to Her Face 💧 [34:23] He Grabs His Water and Catches Her Nervous System in Real Time 👧 [36:34] The Scared Little Girl Who Never Wants to Do Anything Wrong 🥃 [34:56] She Names the Alcohol — and He Traces It All Back to the Root 😢 [36:48] Peter Gets Emotional Watching Her Still Carry All That Pressure 🪞 [44:10] You Can't See Your Own Blind Spots — That's Why They're Blind Spots 🔓 [52:28] The Moment She Drops the Mask and Something Visibly Shifts 💡 [1:01:15] Perfectionism Is Just Fear of Getting It Wrong in a Fancy Outfit 🌀 [1:09:44] The Man Who Hadn't Spoken to His Mum in Seven Years — and What Happened Next 👁️ [1:19:49] After the Breakthrough His Eyes Actually Changed Color 🌍 [1:21:06] The Express Lane of Awakening — Flow With It or Fight It 🕊️ [1:24:42] You Can Never Do Anything Wrong — How Liberating Is That LINKS Peter Crone’s website:https://www.petercrone.com/ Peter on Instagram @petercrone Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if the stress, pressure, and anxiety you feel aren’t really coming from what’s happening around you but from the unconscious beliefs you’re carrying about who you need to be? In this deeply personal conversation, I sit down with my dear friend Peter Crone, known as “The Mind Architect,” to explore the hidden patterns that keep us stuck in survival mode  and what becomes possible when we begin to loosen our grip on them. We dive into why so many of us live in a constant state of vigilance, the difference between reacting to life and truly being present with it, and how our resistance to fear, judgment, and uncertainty may be creating more suffering than the circumstances themselves. Peter also shares his vision for a new way of living — one rooted less in fear, limitation, and separation, and more in freedom, love, presence, and possibility. And then the conversation takes an unexpected turn. I ask Peter to turn the mirror on me and reveal the patterns and blind spots he still sees operating beneath the surface. What unfolds becomes far more personal — and transformative — than I expected. This episode is an invitation to question the stories you’ve been living from, soften the pressure to get everything “right,” and consider what life might feel like if you no longer had to prove, perfect, or protect who you are. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ :🧠 [3:47] Being Self-Conscious Just Means You're Separated From Source😰 [4:40] If You Think You're a Separate Self You Have No Choice But to Survive🌍 [5:31] Every Problem on the Planet Comes From the Illusion of Separation🎭 [7:08] Your Judgment of What's Happening Is Just Your Conditioning💀 [9:20] The Two Primordial Emotions at the Root of All Human Suffering🔥 [13:45] Unresolved Hurt Always Manifests as Perceived Fear🪞 [15:12] Resistance Is Not About What's Happening — It's About What It Means to You💡 [19:38] The Disease Is Not Out There — The Disease Is in You🌀 [23:10] 1.0 vs 2.0 — Two Fundamentally Different Dimensions of Being📱 [26:00] Going From 1.0 to 2.0 Is Like Going From a Flip Phone to a Smartphone🔑 [27:32] You Can't Change Something by Fighting It — You Build a New Model😬 [30:52] Peter Turns the Mirror on Kelly — and Doesn't Hold Back LINKS Peter Crone’s website:https://www.petercrone.com/ Peter on Instagram @petercrone Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when you feel completely healthy — only to discover that cancer has been quietly spreading throughout your body? This episode marks the first of a new series on the HEAL with Kelly Podcast: HEALing Stories, where we’re creating more space to share real people, real healing journeys, and powerful stories of hope and resilience. In this powerful HEALing Story, Stacy Solodkin shares her extraordinary journey from an unexpected Stage 3C ovarian cancer diagnosis to being eight years out with no evidence of disease. Stacy opens up about the subtle symptom that sent her to the emergency room, the moment she was told cancer was “everywhere,” and why trusting her intuition and refusing to be sent home may have saved her life. She shares the importance of advocating for yourself, seeking second opinions, and finding a medical team that truly feels aligned with you. Stacy also takes us inside the whole-person approach she embraced alongside conventional cancer treatment — from nutrition and acupuncture to meditation and other supportive therapies — and how the HEAL documentary helped expand her understanding of the role she could play in her own healing. But Stacy’s story is about much more than cancer. Facing her mortality completely transformed the way she lives. She learned to stop waiting for “someday,” release fear and difficult emotions, receive support, and ask herself one powerful question: How will I feel about this decision on my last day? Her story is a moving reminder to listen to your body, advocate for yourself, and not wait for a diagnosis to start living the life you truly want. LINKS Stacy Solodkin on Instagram @stacysolodkin Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 🏥 [2:39] Two ER Doctors Said Constipation — She Refused to Leave 💔 [6:18] The Doctor Took Her Hand and Said It's Everywhere 🧬 [7:20] Stage 3C on Every Organ — and She Had Just Buried Her Father a Month Before 👩‍⚕️ [14:14] Why She Fired the First Surgeon and Found Her Real Team at City of Hope 🎥 [17:51] Kelly Sent Her a Copy of Heal Before It Even Came Out — and It Changed Everything 💊 [18:48] From Zero Supplements to 80 to 100 a Day — Plus Acupuncture, Mistletoe and Hyperbaric 🍕 [17:51] Cancer Healing Is a Whole Pizza Pie — Not Just Chemo 🚫 [39:08] Sugar Feeds Cancer Cells — Here's What She Cut Out Completely 📱 [33:21] She Posted Every Chemo Session — and Friends Found Aneurysms Because of It 💛 [45:46] We Only Have Today — and Every Morning You Wake Up You're Winning 🌈 [47:47] You Are Not Sick — You Are Shedding 🙏 [45:46] What to Do in the Dark Tunnel When Hope Feels Impossible Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if the moments when life seems to be falling apart are actually asking something deeper of us? In this highly unique episode of HEAL with Kelly, I sit down with my dear friend, internationally recognized forensic psychic medium and spiritual teacher Carissa Schumacher, for a fascinating conversation about transformation, surrender, and the unseen forces that may be guiding us through some of life’s most challenging chapters. Carissa shares the extraordinary story of how losing nearly everything ultimately led her down a spiritual path she never could have predicted — and eventually to a life-altering experience in which she unexpectedly began channeling the spirit of Yeshua, the true name of Jesus in the language of Aramaic. What followed was a deeply personal journey of learning to trust, integrate and share these channeled transmissions, which Carissa says are not about giving away our power to an outside authority, but about deepening our own relationship with the Divine and learning how to co-create with it. We explore the teachings that emerged through this channeling and are now shared in her new book, The Alchemy Transmissions: A Pathway to Miracles – Yeshua's Wisdom, including why transformation often requires something old to fall away before something new can emerge. From acceptance and surrender to the wisdom of the body, grief, our unique essence, and the power of awe and wonder, this conversation offers a beautiful perspective on navigating the uncomfortable space between who we were and who we’re becoming. Whether you’re moving through a major transition or simply questioning what comes next, this episode may invite you to see life’s hardest chapters — and the possibility of miracles — a little differently. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 🧠 [3:15] She Studied Neuroscience at Brown to Understand Her Own Psychic Abilities 💀 [5:06] She Lost Everything and Called It the Most Free She's Ever Felt 🌵 [7:47] Spirit Said Go to Sedona With $5 and Ten Gallons of Gas — She Went ✨ [10:03] First Event Had Ten People — The Next Had 180 🙏 [11:58] She Blacked Out During a Meditation and Channeled Jesus 😰 [12:33] Her First Reaction to Channeling Christ Was Pure Terror 🔥 [19:15] Kelly's House Burned Down — and What the Alchemy Pathway Says About It ☠️ [32:10] Acceptance First — You Can't See Reality Until You Stop Resisting It 🌊 [32:10] The Tomb Phase, the Womb Phase and How Transformation Actually Works 🌈 [35:38] There Has Never Once Been an Alchemy Pathway Without a Rainbow 💡 [39:32] Even If You Go Off Path Your Spirit Always Gets You Where You Need to Go 🐦 [1:00:36] A Baby Bird and a Kingsnake — and the Question of Why People Suffer LINKS Carissa Schumacher’s website: https://www.thespirittransmissions.com/ The Alchemy Transmissions: A Pathway to Miracles – Yeshua's Wisdom: https://amzn.to/4ccEBhW SPONSORS TIMELINE: Go to https://⁠timeline.com/healwithkelly to take the Longevity Quiz and get your free gummies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if a cancer diagnosis that feels like the end of your world could actually become the beginning of a completely new and empowering relationship with your body, your life, and yourself? In this episode of HEAL with Kelly, I sit down with Elina Fuhrman — Cancer Healing Strategist, epigenetics expert, therapeutic chef, bestselling author of Soupelina’s Soup Cleanse, and founder of the Healing Journey Method and the Fuhrman Protocol. After discovering a lump just before her 40th birthday and receiving an aggressive breast cancer diagnosis, Elina found herself overwhelmed by fear, conflicting information, and treatment decisions that felt impossibly urgent. So she turned to the skill that had shaped her former career as an Emmy-nominated CNN journalist: she started asking questions. Relentlessly and fervently — like her life depended on it. And those questions took her places she never expected. We explore what it means to become an active participant in your health journey rather than simply handing over your power, why Elina believes there are important parts of the cancer conversation we’re still missing, and how her search for answers ultimately became about far more than treating a diagnosis. We also talk about the connection between nourishment and healing, shedding old identities and emotional patterns, intuition, and what can happen when life forces us to finally listen to the parts of ourselves we may have ignored for years. Elina shares how her own search for a more nourishing way to eat ultimately led her into the kitchen, where her exploration of herbs, plants, and therapeutic soups became another unexpected chapter of her healing journey. Elina’s story challenges some deeply held ideas about illness, healing, and even what it means to “fight” cancer. Whether you’re navigating a diagnosis, supporting someone you love, or simply want to feel more empowered in your own health, this conversation is an invitation to ask different questions — and perhaps see healing through an entirely new (and more hopeful) lens. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 🎙️ [2:39] Her World Went Into Freefall the Moment They Said Cancer 💊 [4:05] She Went Through Five Oncologists Before Making Any Decision 🧬 [6:27] The Tumor Is Not the Cancer — Why Everyone Gets This Wrong ⏳ [25:00] You Have More Time Than They Tell You After a Diagnosis 💔 [30:37] Therapy Cracked Her Open — and She Heard Herself Say It Was Her Marriage ✈️ [10:24] Escaped the Soviet Union at 20 With One Tiny Suitcase 🧘 [35:29] A Receptionist Said "Have You Tried Meditation?" — It Changed Everything 🌿 [39:53] Ayurveda in India, Shamans in Brazil and Her Whole World Expanding 🍲 [58:33] How She Started Making Therapeutic Soups From Chinese Medicine Herbs 💡 [1:00:40] She Married Ayurveda, Chinese Medicine and Naturopathy Into One Protocol 🌱 [44:12] Her Three Month Healing Journey Protocol and Why Cells Need That Long ❤️ [1:04:47] There Is No Diagnosis That Cannot Be Reversed — She Truly Believes It LINKS: Elina Fuhrman’s website: https://www.soupelina.com/ Elina on Instagram @elinafuhrman Soupelina’s Soup Cleanse Cookbook: https://amzn.to/4c6Wa35 SPONSOR: TIMELINE: Mitopure now starts at just $79. Go to ⁠https://⁠timeline.com/healwithkelly⁠ to get 20% off Mitopure supplements and Skincare with code HEALwithKelly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Could some of the symptoms you’ve learned to live with — brain fog, fatigue, headaches, hormonal changes, or simply not feeling like yourself — have less to do with what’s happening inside your body and more to do with the environment you’re living in? In this episode of the HEAL with Kelly Podcast, I sit down with Ariana Thacker, chemical engineer and founder and CEO of MoldCo, whose own unexpected health crisis led her to investigate one of the most overlooked environmental factors affecting our health: mold exposure. We talk about why mold-related illness can be so difficult to recognize, why conventional testing often completely misses it, and the surprising reason two people living in the exact same home can have completely different experiences. Ariana also challenges some of the biggest assumptions we have about where mold exists — including why newer homes aren’t necessarily in the clear. We explore the emerging connections researchers are seeing between our environments and everything from brain and immune health to hormones, metabolism, and chronic illness. And Ariana shares what she wishes she had known before getting sick, how to begin thinking differently about the health of your home, and why mold may only be one piece of a much bigger environmental conversation.   If you’ve ever had symptoms you couldn’t quite explain, wondered whether your home could be affecting how you feel, or simply want to know what may be hiding in the places you spend the most time, this conversation will change the way you look at your environment — and your health. Exclusive HEAL Offer: Ready to take a closer look at your health and home? Use code HEAL15 to save 15% off MoldCo’s CIRS Panel, Complete Panel, and Home Test. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 🏠 [2:01] 50 Million Americans Impacted by Mold 🧬 [2:33] The Gene That Makes Mold Exposure Devastating 🤒 [4:23] From Crushing It at Work to Slurring Her Words 🔍 [7:31] Her Air Test Showed 34,000 Spores Per Meter 💊 [10:34] First Month on a Binder and Her Brain Came Back 🧪 [12:17] The HLA Test That Shows How Vulnerable You Are 🚪 [13:47] 75% of People Get Better Just by Leaving 🏘️ [14:09] Your Rights When a Landlord Won't Fix the Problem 🔧 [37:08] How to Find a Mold Inspector You Can Actually Trust 🦠 [39:48] CIRS Explained and Why Medicine Misses It Completely 🧫 [40:00] Actinobacteria — The Hidden Threat Beyond Mold 🧴 [46:09] Binders as a Longevity Hack Even If You're Not Sick LINKS MoldCo website: https://www.moldco.com/ Free Questionnaire: https://access.moldco.com/signs MoldCo on Instagram @themoldcompany SPONSORS: JUST THRIVE: When you start a 90-day Just Thrive probiotic gummy subscription, you'll get a free 30-day probiotic gummy. That’s 4 months worth to get started on your health journey. Visit ⁠⁠https://justthrivehealth.com/heal⁠⁠ to claim your free probiotic gummy with your first 90-day probiotic subscription, or enjoy 20% off anything sitewide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if Alzheimer’s doesn’t begin when you start forgetting names or struggling with memory but decades earlier, when subtle changes are happening in your metabolism, inflammation, and brain?   With Alzheimer’s in my own family, this conversation with Dr. David Perlmutter felt especially personal. Dr. Perlmutter is a board-certified neurologist, six-time New York Times bestselling author, and one of the leading voices challenging how we think about brain health and cognitive decline. His new book, Brain Defenders, explores emerging research around microglia — the immune cells of the brain — and why they may hold an important key to protecting our brains as we age.   We dive into why Dr. Perlmutter believes we need to start thinking about Alzheimer’s prevention in our 30s and 40s, the surprising connection between metabolic health and the brain, and how our everyday choices may influence whether our brain’s immune cells protect us or work against us. We also get into the role of ultra-processed foods, blood sugar and insulin, the gut microbiome, environmental toxins, sleep, inflammation, mitochondria, vitamin D, and some of the biomarkers Dr. Perlmutter believes are worth knowing. And for women, we explore what happens to the brain during menopause, the latest conversation around estrogen and hormone replacement therapy, and why women face a greater risk of Alzheimer’s.   Dr. Perlmutter also shares fascinating new research that could change how we think about Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, MS, traumatic brain injury, and other neurological conditions — including why the future of brain health may look very different from the traditional “wait for symptoms, then treat” approach. This episode left me feeling incredibly hopeful about how much influence we may actually have over the future of our brains. If you’ve ever worried about your memory, your family history, or simply want to stay sharp and resilient as you age, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 🧠 [1:50] Only 6.8% of Americans Are Metabolically Healthy — and Your Brain Pays the Price 🍟 [7:31] One Handful of Chips a Day Raises Your Alzheimer's Risk by 13% 💊 [9:18] The Alzheimer's Drugs the FDA Approved That Don't Work — and Kill 🦠 [12:47] You're Eating for Billions — How Your Gut Microbiome Drives Brain Health 🌱 [30:01] 70% of Alzheimer's Patients Stopped Declining With Just Diet and Exercise 🧬 [31:16] One Brain Scan That Shows If Your Microglia Have Turned Against You 💡 [35:51] Flashing Light 40 Times Per Second — MIT's Alzheimer's Breakthrough 😴 [46:32] Bad Sleep Leaves Toxic Proteins in Your Brain Overnight ☀️ [47:57] Why Vitamin D Deficiency Is a Massive Alzheimer's Risk Factor 📊 [50:44] The Blood Test That Predicts Alzheimer's Before Symptoms Appear 🩸 [52:32] Get a Fasting Insulin Test — Not Just a Blood Sugar Test 🦠 [55:41] Long Covid Shifted Microglia in 12% of the Planet — Here's What Helps   LINKS Dr. David Perlmutter’s website:https://drperlmutter.com/ Dr. David Perlmutter on Instagram @davidperlmutter Brain Defenders: Harness the Power of Your Immune Cells to Protect Your Brain for Life book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4glvlcH TIMELINE: Mitopure now starts at just $79. Go to https://⁠timeline.com/healwithkelly to get 20% off Mitopure supplements and Skincare with code HEALwithKelly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do you struggle to get good sleep? The reason you’re exhausted, waking up at 3 a.m., or struggling to feel like yourself might surprise you. And likely has to do with sneaky and quietly disruptive sleep habits. In this episode of the HEAL with Kelly Podcast, I sit down with world renowned sleep expert Dr. Michael Breus, PhD, a double board-certified Clinical Psychologist and Clinical Sleep Specialist known as The Sleep Doctor. After nearly 25 years in the field, he has a refreshingly simple message: we may be making wellness — and sleep — far more complicated than it needs to be. There is a ton of information jam packed in this episode. We explore the fascinating science of our individual sleep chronotypes (I’m a Lion, what are you?!) and how understanding your body’s natural rhythm could change the way you approach not only sleep, but your entire day. Dr. Breus shares some surprisingly simple sleep tips that challenge many of the things we’ve been taught about getting a good night’s rest. We tackle some of the biggest questions around sleep — from those frustrating middle-of-the-night wake-ups, to menopause, sleep apnea, melatonin, sleep trackers, caffeine, alcohol, and the everyday habits that may be affecting us more than we realize. And we go beyond sleep itself, exploring the fascinating world of dreams, the connection between sleep and emotional healing, and why the timing of everything from your morning routine to intimacy may matter more than you think. This conversation made me look at sleep in an entirely new way. Rather than chasing the perfect nighttime routine, what if better sleep actually begins with what you do the moment you wake up? If you’re ready to understand your sleep differently and discover simple ways to feel more rested and energized, this episode is for you. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : ⏰ [0:30] Wake Up at the Same Time Every Day — Here's the Biology 🦁 [2:40] Lions, Bears, Wolves and Dolphins — What's Your Chronotype? 🐬 [9:27] The Fourth Chronotype Nobody Talks About 🔥 [11:52] The Best Time to Have Sex Based on Your Hormones ☕ [14:09] Wait 90 Minutes Before Your First Coffee 🌡️ [22:49] Why You Wake Up at 3am — and the Exact Fix 😮 [27:53] The Sleep Doctor Has Sleep Apnea and Didn't Know It 👩 [32:42] How Women's Sleep Apnea Gets Misdiagnosed as Depression 🛏️ [34:31] The Truth About Toxic Mattresses 💭 [42:46] Dreams Are Emotional Metabolism — What's Really Happening 🦷 [45:14] Why Everyone on Earth Has the Teeth Falling Out Dream 🧠 [49:31] How to Remember Your Dreams — and When Not To ✨ [50:20] Lucid Dreaming for PTSD and Trauma Healing 💊 [1:00:12] Sleep Is a Quality Game — Not a Quantity Game ⚠️ [1:01:00] Why Melatonin Is More Dangerous Than You Think 🧬 [1:05:18] His Exact Supplement Stack for Better Sleep 😔 [1:08:03] A Few Bad Nights of Sleep Can Make You Believe Dark Thoughts LINKS Sleep Doctor’s website: https://sleepdoctor.com/heal Sleep Doctor on Instagram @thesleepdoctor Dr. Michael Breus on Instagram @drmichaelbreus SPONSORS: JUST THRIVE: When you start a 90-day Just Thrive probiotic gummy subscription, you'll get a free 30-day probiotic gummy. That’s 4 months worth to get started on your health journey. Visit ⁠https://justthrivehealth.com/heal⁠ to claim your free probiotic gummy with your first 90-day probiotic subscription. Enjoy 20% off anything sitewide. COWBOY COLOSTRUM: For a limited time, get up to 25% off your entire order. Go to https://cowboycolostrum.com/kellyg and use code KELLYG at checkout for 25% off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Grief has a script that we’ve been handed: five stages, one after another, until time supposedly heals you. But what if that was never the full story? There isn't one right way to grieve, and your path might look different. In this episode, I sit down with Kate Doerge, certified grief coach, speaker, and author of Reimagining Grief, who has walked through more loss in one lifetime than most people can grasp. She lost her father unexpectedly to heart failure, then her mother to an accident, and then, most heart-breakingly, her 16-year-old daughter Penny. Out of this deep experience of loss, she's built a completely new way of moving through grief — one built on choice instead of waiting for it to pass.  We talk about what it actually means to feel grief in your body, the signs from her loved ones Kate can't explain away, and the choice that turned her family's indescribable loss into a way of helping thousands of others heal through loss. This conversation made me think differently about grief, healing, and what it really means to honor the people we love. Whether you're grieving today or simply want to better support someone who is, I hope this episode reminds you that healing doesn't mean leaving your loved one behind, it means learning to carry their love with you as you keep on living. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ :👼 [4:36] Penny's Diagnosis at Four Months Old — One in 300,000🌟 [8:38] Seven Brain Surgeries and She Never Let It Define Her🕯️ [10:19] In That Last Week They Filled the House With Music, Love and Light💔 [13:55] She Lost Her Father, Then Her Mother, Then the Unimaginable🌈 [16:03] Her Dad's Headstone Was a Rock From His Favorite Beach🏃 [30:13] Grief Lives in Your Body — If You Don't Move It, It Gets Stuck🌻 [33:53] The Day After Penny's Celebration They Launched Pennies Flight Foundation✨ [37:12] It's Not Your Lifespan That Matters — It's Your Wingspan📖 [41:29] The Five Stages of Grief Were Written in the 1960s — It's Time for an Update🙏 [44:00] Stop Saying I'm Sorry — Say This Instead💡 [46:20] Post Traumatic Growth Instead of Post Traumatic Stress🪙 [54:50] Running Through Dallas Thinking of the Book — Then a License Plate Said Faith Over Fear LINKS Kate Doerge website: https://www.katedoerge.com/ Kate on Instagram @doergek Reimagining Grief book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4wNDywY SPONSORS RE-LYTE: Go to https://redmond.life/kelly and use code KELLY to get 15% off your first order. TIMELINE: Mitopure now starts at just $79. Go to ⁠timeline.com/healwithkelly to get 20% off Mitopure supplements and Skincare with code HEALwithKelly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices