欢迎大家来到新一期HCI Insiders！ 在第二季的第二期，我们邀请到的是Quora的产品设计师春含。 春含现在长住纽约，做Product Designer已经有三年时间。自从2020年疫情期间从纽约大学ITP (Interactive Telecommunications Program) 毕业之后，就一直在Quora工作，期间参与了很多项目，非常值得一提的是Poe这个项目。在进入纽大攻读硕士项目之前，春含在北京大学学习地球科学和计算机，听上去是和用户体验以及产品设计并没有很大关系。究竟是什么契机让春含对产品设计产生兴趣，并萌生了跨专业读研的念头呢？在2020疫情肆虐、就业市场萧条的那段时间，春含如何在激烈的竞争中脱颖而出，并得到在Quora的工作机会？工作几年后，对这个行业和职位有没有什么新的看法和体会？ 时间线： 0:00 Start 1:56 从地球科学，到编程，再到产品设计 5:16 在纽约大学ITP项目做的有意思的项目 7:53 ITP项目同学们的背景 9:57 在美国的求职经历，如何进入Quora 11:40 “收集齐100封不一样的拒信” 12:12 求职过程中如何保持健康积极的心态，如何化解peer pressure 13:43 作为solo designer，独立负责Poe的项目经历 19:36 做solo designer如何与同事Design critique 20:40 得到独立负责Poe这个项目的机会的原因 21:43 作为设计师从0开始构想项目，在没有很多research的情况下如何推进项目 24:47 在没有很多competitor的时候，我们可以去设置行业规范 26:33 工作三年在能力上获得了哪些成长？ 34:10 未来的职业规划 30:56 Quora的设计师话语权很高的原因，从Quora的历史讲起... 34:28 对Product Designer这个职位的认识 35:33 如何在学生时代累积找工作作品 39:08 对20岁出头的自己有什么想说的？干一行爱一行，6年里梦想有许多改变，但拥抱各种可能性！

Welcome back to our Season 2 first episode. 🥳 We are truly excited to invite Prof. Jason Yip to be on our show! Professor Jason Yip is a leading expert in Human-Computer Interaction, focusing on child-centric technology design. He merges insights from education and psychology to enhance our understanding of how different age groups engage with technology. As the Director of UW KidsTeam, Professor Yip collaborates with children in hands-on design workshops. More about UW KidsTeam: https://www.kidsteam.ischool.uw.edu/ More about our Guest: https://bigyipper.com/ Timeline: 0:00 Start 2:10 What drew Jason to the concept of KidsTeam, and what intrigued him about participating in this collaborative effort? How did Jason go on the road of teaching kids, education technology, and HCI? 7:50 How does Kidsteam UW differ from KidsTeam at the University of Maryland regarding focus, challenges, and opportunities? 10:10 What were some key steps, processes, or challenges in establishing KidsTeam at the University of Washington? 15:25 Memorable stories of KidsTeam, kids always come back “I have a lot of parents tell us that KidsTeam is the reason why their kids speak more.” 27:00 Research methods that Jason commonly uses for a better understanding of user needs and behaviors. 31:37 Are there any ethical considerations Jason and KidsTeam must navigate when involving children in research and design? 40:45 What kinds of skills do children acquire from participating in KidsTeam? 49:30 How does KidsTeam work with parents? 1:06:56 What's next for the Kidsteam at the University of Washington? Are there any exciting projects in the pipeline? 1:19:32 Looking back, what suggestions does Jason have for himself in his early 20th?

时间线： 00:00 Start 00:33  为什么要做podcast & 初次经营自媒体的感受 06:38 不同嘉宾的风格差异 & 临场技巧的锻炼  10:11 从做podcast学到了什么 18:14 记忆最深刻的节目 28:01 准备访谈过程中的有趣经历 32:06 可以调整进步的空间 43:30 成员们暑假都做了些什么 52:15 新学期的打算

More About Iris: https://www.instagram.com/iris_lynn0104/?hl=en 0:00 Intro 2:33 求学经历——从国内到海外，从金融到艺术管理，跨学科的萌芽  “接地气是我觉得最重要的事情，不管是我的研究还是生活。” 11:20 在纽约学习艺术管理的探索和心得，初探“以人为本“理念 “我很喜欢艺术，但我也更想系统性的学到一些逻辑，去试图改变一些东西。” “艺术和创造力只是一种途径，我最终的目的是要探索公民教育，怎么样去构建一个更好的民主社会，让人和人之间建立更好的沟通机制去理解彼此。” 16:17  新章节：艺术和乡村的碰撞，田野工作的开始 “（想探索）文化遗产怎么样回到social fabric，而不是一个放在博物馆里死气沉沉的东西。” 19:40 读博想法的萌发；从观察者到行动者——与人本设计学科的相遇 “我不想站在一个西方所规定的话语范式里面去写一些关于不公平或关于权利的很大的词···我想做的事情一直不是一个观察者，我想做一个行动者。所以慢慢这就让我推到了设计这个学科。” 24:00 设计为何与自己的学术vision相契合，为什么选择康奈尔成衣设计 31:45 对于想要申请博士的听众的建议  35:25 Iris目前的研究方向：非物质文化遗产的复兴。包括：共同设计与参与式设计；商业化与可持续，供应和生产链，产品策略；创业角度的讨论 45:48  理论阅读、整理想法和写作输出对于实践者的重要性 56:04 对于Human-Centered Design的理解，与交互设计实践的区别 “把Human-Centered Design推到Humanity-Centered Design。我所关注的以人为本的设计不只是赋予人类的福祉，还有人和整个生态网络中所有的基因，包括动植物、自然和社会环境。” “见自己，见天地，见众生。” “人是一个object还是一个subject？科技界的所谓以人为本的设计是否把人类分类、量化了？我们在设计物件的时候，不会看多少指标、把人贴标签，更多是看关系性。关系是流动的，所以设计不是给人贴标签，而是设计一套动态的生态系统，它是会发展的。” 62:20 对“人文社科无用论”的讨论  “见自己，见天地，见众生。” 67:17  给20岁左右的自己的建议

More about our guest: Dr. Trond Nilsen, a researcher, entrepreneur, and community organizer focused on XR technologies and game design with applications in health and education. https://www.linkedin.com/in/trondnz/ https://gix.uw.edu/people/trond-nilsen/ -------------- Timeline ------------- 0:00 Introduction 2:06 Road from a graduate student in game, Augmented Reality & education to teaching at University of Washington, Seattle 5:05 Curriculum design & reflections on teaching AR/VR 6:54 Discussing the challenges people new to VR face with the technologies and the tools. 11:19 Difficulties in building a VR course for a diverse student group  13:27 How Trond got into the fields of Game Design and AR/VR 23:37 Trond’s understanding of Human-Computer Interaction  & connections between HCI and game design; the “WOW effect” of VR 27:57 Projects on education & health 33:32 Challenges of keeping up with the field of AR/VR; advantage of networking and teaching. 39:51 To know about the WHAT and the WHY behind each technology and why this matters in the workplace  46:32 Challenges faced by the AR/VR industry and some exciting future trends 58:03 Discussing Apple Vision Pro: barriers, limitations and outlooks  63:02: Advice for people interested in AR/VR

这期节目有幸邀请到微软Senior Product Designer June来分享她从建筑转行交互的学术经历，在北美做Product Designer的职场晋级之路，还有她做留学和求职社群的创业之路。希望这期分享能给大家一些启发！ 👥 更多链接： UX Pie: https://www.uxpie.com/ 现在报名使用优惠码HCI INSIDERS可以享受100-500美金不等的优惠哦～ ⌚️时间线Timeline: 0:00 start 1:45 June的自我介绍 3:13 为什么最开始选择进入建筑行业？又因为什么而离开？ 8:38 是契机让June了解到人机交互领域？ 9:24 为什么选择去华盛顿大学UW Seatt;e读二硕 11:24 建筑背景的影响 14:40 对于读硕的建议** 15:56 怎么看待交互行业内卷现状 & 转行建议** 20:37 SAP & TikTok工作经历和成长 25:56 Design Manager职位的感想 28:07 Junior，Senior Designer以及Design Lead的差异 31:08 关于Title与升职** 34:11 关于准备ToB项目** 36:14 Design Consultant & UXPie介绍 39:15 June心目中UX Designer最需要培养的能力** 41:08 回顾过去，给20岁自己的建议 42:56 关于交互设计的未来

Learn more about Prof. Xin Xiangyang LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/xiangyang-xin-28b0872/⁠ Website: ⁠⁠https://www.xxyinnovation.com/⁠ This episode will talk about Prof. Xin sharing more about his experience and Strategic Thinking in Design, Continuing with us to dive into Prof. Xin's academic journey. ------------------------------ Timeline:  00:00 Start 00:30 How Prof. Xin understands the def of design, it’s not just about product and service  10:09 Think of the strategy behind the product and think of how we can design 11:45 Why did Prof. Xin pivot to multi-field to try and error (e.g., mechanical engineering, art,  philosophy, design), and how did he keep his passion 16:54 Suggestion for all the designers: read news and care about other people 18:57 Suggestion for those who are anxious about getting a job and internship 26:23 Prof. Xin Ph.D. research & advice for those who are interested in social science 33:16 What are the most critical skills and qualities that designers should pursue

Learn more about our guest: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/xiangyang-xin-28b0872/ Website: ⁠https://www.xxyinnovation.com/ ------------------------------ We're excited to welcome Professor Xin Xiangyang. Professor Xin is a distinguished professor and doctoral supervisor at Tongji University and the founder of XXY Innovation, a consultancy firm specializing in design thinking and strategic consulting. And I used to work at XXY Innovation as a design consultancy intern. With a Ph.D. in Design Philosophy from Carnegie Mellon University and an impressive background, Professor Xin has made significant contributions to emerging fields such as interaction design, user experience, service design, and design strategy. He has developed important theories and methods such as the "Five Elements of Interaction," "Behavioral Logic," and "Design Butterfly Effect." Professor Xin has made his mark in the field of interaction design by organizing international conferences, receiving numerous honors for his research, judging prestigious design competitions, and offering consultancy services to prominent organizations like P&G, the United States Postal Service, and Huawei. Join us as we explore Professor Xin's groundbreaking work and gain insights into the future of HCI and design. ------------------------------ Topic Covered: 00:00 Introduction 02:40 More on Prof. Xin’s design education experiences 04:00 Reflections on past & current design education in China 08:05 Reasons for starting another reform; re-positioning of global design education 15:11 Reasons for looking beyond products and services in design education 19:47 Talks about XXY Innovation & comment on China-US business & social context 22:20 Organizational advice for companies (vision, strategy and decision-making) & examples 28:09 Projects that made transformative impacts (healthcare, tourism, desert business, etc)

欢迎大家来到新一期HCI Insiders！这期节目我们有幸邀请到Spotify的产品设计师Minjun Chen。Minjun毕业于华盛顿大学西雅图的MHCI+D专业，她的求学和工作都经历过诸多转折。本科毕业于中央民族大学中文系的Minjun为何选择来美国读教育科技的硕士？又是什么契机让她接触到产品设计并决定去华盛顿大学攻读HCI硕士呢？辗转于硅谷多家知名公司担任产品设计师的Minjun是怎样准备求职的呢？让我们快来听听她的回答吧！ 关于Minjun: ⁠https://www.minjundesign.com/⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/minjunc/⁠ ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@minjunux⁠ Timeline:  00:00 Introduction 02:15 始于Apple iPod Touch的设计师梦想，以及从高中到硕士近十年的逐梦历程 12:10 过去的教育和实习经历对Minjun如今做product designer的影响 15:30 给正在犹豫转行HCI的同学的建议：“不要想着快速成功，这条路并没有那么容易。” 19:11 Minjun毕业这几年，因为身份问题而不得不转辗多家科技公司的心酸经历：“第一次被裁员之后我猜意识到，没有一份工作是永恒的，自我提升才是最重要的。平时有意识地积累和准备作品集素材，找工作的时候就不会慌了。” 27:50 Minjun分享了关于设计师如何快速学习和上手专业领域完全不同的项目的经验：“解决复杂问题的能力是异曲同工的。带着好奇心，多问多看。其实学习新domain knowledge的过程也是自我成长的过程，这也是我感觉做设计师最有意思的地方。” 31:53 初级设计师如何在职场利用工作机会快速成长：“主动找机会提高自己的弱项，多请教组里其他设计师，以及一定要和design manager进行career conversation，告诉manager你需要什么机会，想达到什么目标。一定不要自己闷头做，要多和product manager以及engineer交流。” 37:00 Solo designer更需要一个有经验的mentor来给自己一些design input和feedback 39:58 面试的流程、准备，以及心态的重要性：“每次面试到后来感觉就跟楼下大爷唠嗑一样，聊得嗨了，可能反而因为放松会讲很多。一定不能特别紧张而支支吾吾，面试多了就不紧张了。” 48:10 Minjun开始做YouTuber的原因，制作过程中面临的挑战，以及未来的计划 52:06 华盛顿大学西雅图 (UW Seattle) HCI+D的就读体验分享 55:45 在这么多公司做过各种类型的产品，也和各种风格的团队合作过，Minjun觉得产品设计师最重要的、最需要下功夫重点培养的能力有哪些？ 58:48 假如时光倒流，Minjun会给20岁出头的自己说什么？ 01:03:12 在Minjun看来，交互设计的未来会是怎样的？

Learn more about our guest. Anchi’s Portfolio: https://www.anchihsin.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anchihsin/ —-------------------------------------------------------------- 終於迎來了我們第一期中文節目！今天邀请到的來賓是Mavis之前在設計顧問公司的同事Anchi，現在他在美國加州 Apple擔任Product Designer。Anchi 之前在設計顧問公司擔任UX Designer，負責許多B2B, B2C 的專案。 Anchi會和我們分享他的求學經歷、在設計顧問公司和產品公司的差異分享，在蘋果上班的設計趣事！ 今後我們會陸續邀請在海外闖蕩設計師和各地的教授分享他們的工作經驗和求職求學故事，並分別來賓的母語調整用中文或是英文採訪，敬請期待後續的更新！ We finally welcome our first Mandarin episode! Today's guest is Anchi, who used to work with Mavis at a design consulting company. He is now a Product Designer at Apple in California. Anchi was a UX Designer at the design consulting company, responsible for many B2B and B2C projects. Anchi will share his study experience, the differences between design consulting and product companies, and fun design stories from working at Apple! In the future, we will continue to invite designers working overseas and professors from various places to share their work experiences and job-seeking/study stories. Depending on the mother tongue of the guest, we will produce more episodes by using Mandarin or English. Please look forward to the following updates! —-------------------------------------------------------------- Topic Covered:  00:00 Introduction 00:35 Anchi 個人成長背景和工作經驗 02:37 設計顧問公司和In house 公司的差異，建議新鮮人可以去顧問公司試試看 09:26 設計顧問公司如何訓練設計師的情商  12:09 做to B 和 to C 的產品差異，在作品集呈現上又有什麼樣的差異呢？ 18:06 設計顧問公司和 in house 公司的設計流程差異 27:29 完整的設計系統(Design System)是設計師很重要的法寶：減少溝通成本，加快工作流程 33:42 蘋果和美國公司面試流程，有哪些小細節需要注意 42:38 CCA (Califorinia College of the Arts) Interaction Design 的求學體驗：深入探討人的行為模式，是我最喜歡的地方 52:02 畢業後回頭看，在學校可以培養的最主要技能：思維方式、設計方法、看事情的角度和問對的問題 54:12 大學畢業前夕，如何準備作品集和作品集製作技巧 01:01:12 Anchi 短中長期的規劃