Jon Bernthal knows how lucky he is. "Art has saved my life," he says on this episode of "Happy Sad Confused". In truth, it's a lot more than luck that's gotten Bernthal to where he is today, a much in demand actor on the big and small screen.  Bernthal has definitely had an atypical journey, from getting his nose broken more times than he can count to studying his craft in Moscow. He talks about it all with Josh including how "The Walking Dead" turned his life around and how the premature departure of executive producer Frank Darabont rattled him. Plus, Jon and Josh talk about their mutual love for Shia LaBeouf and why The Punisher is the comic character Bernthal was best suited for.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>

Ben Mendelsohn

On Happy Sad Confused, Josh Horowitz gets nerdy and intimate with the biggest movie stars and filmmakers on the planet. Each and every week, you’ll hear in-depth, career-spanning conversations with everyone from Samuel L. Jackson and Scarlett Johansson to Christopher Nolan and Quentin Tarantino. If you’ve ever wanted to know what it was like to get casual with A-listers like Tom Hiddleston or Kristen Stewart (all HSC regulars), then come on in and join Josh on Happy Sad Confused.