Want to discover your freedom in Christ? Then listen in as Mike Stone and Kevin Smith talk about it. Today on grace coach. Hello, and Unknown Speaker 0:10 welcome to the grace coach. Unknown Speaker 0:13 What's up, Mike? Unknown Speaker 0:14 Good to see it, Kevin. Unknown Speaker 0:17 Great to see you too, man. Unknown Speaker 0:18 It's been a while. Unknown Speaker 0:20 It has been it has been, you know, we Unknown Speaker 0:22 do these monthly podcasts. And you know, after a few weeks, I'm, I'm ready to be going as a goal once a week, and then maybe we'll get them you know, maybe Unknown Speaker 0:33 twice a week. Yeah. Unknown Speaker 0:36 Once a month is a long time long time for our listeners to make them. Wait. Unknown Speaker 0:42 I know my mom tells me all the time. We can't do a podcast. That's a mom, we're doing a podcast. Unknown Speaker 0:47 That's nice. Your mom is listening. Unknown Speaker 0:49 Is that sad? I got it. Unknown Speaker 0:51 No, I said it's great. Unknown Speaker 0:56 Why? So my mom and all the ladies in our Bible study, I think are listening to sound down in Florida. Unknown Speaker 1:02 That is great. So what are we talking about today, Kevin? Unknown Speaker 1:07 We are talking about forgiveness, and not just forgiveness, but the once and for all forgiveness that we have in Jesus Christ. Yeah, amen. Talking about or what Unknown Speaker 1:21 it really is. And you know, if it wasn't for the book of Hebrews. And you know, you can go to Bible gateway and put in the words once and for all you'll see, in the book of Hebrews, it mentioned one way or another six times. Huge. It's unbelievable, because we all know what the word once means, right? One time. And for all, we know what the word all means, for everybody. Unknown Speaker 1:54 All means all. All means Oh. That's a great point. I actually doing research on this was just looking about the different religions of the world and what they believe about forgiveness. And it's really surprising a couple ways they go one of it is they talk about forgiveness between people. Like I forgive you, you forgive me, we're all good. But woba other ones that are more serious talk about, they'll mention about forgiveness from God. But it just comes with strings attached performance, and it's just like, was there any truth out there that comes even close to what Christianity offers? In a once and for all forgiveness? For all times for all people? It's not it's it's a treadmill, or it's a forgiveness of people doing nice things for each other and forgiving them because of it. Unknown Speaker 2:57 And that's certainly a byproduct of knowing that God forgives you without a doubt that we forgive because he forgave us. Sure. The Scripture says, forgive as the Lord forgave you. Yes, no, there's no doubt reconciliation between people is very important down here on Earth. But right won't happen unless we first understand the forgiveness that God has given to us. Unknown Speaker 3:28 Right, and that it's God, that's giving the forgiveness. It's his plan. It's his dealings. He has done it, he's performed it. Alice, this lady, I texted you this morning today, by just looking in Romans, about his divine forbearance. I just read it in Romans 325 set which says, whom God put for his propitiation by his blood to be received by faith. This one, this was to show the God's righteousness because in his divine forbearance, he passed over former sin. So God has passed over former sins, to display on glory, what he did in Christ once and for all for all people. It's it's an incredible thing because even in Christianity, people misunderstand this forgiveness of God, and they go to the Old Testament forgiveness of God, you know, unless you really look at Jesus Christ, and what he did on the cross, and the way God had divine forbearance on his sins in the Old Testament, but now today 212 2000 years ago, He put on display Jesus Christ as crucified dead and buried blood that was shed for our account to provide this forgiveness. And without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. Right? Unknown Speaker 5:17 Right, right. You know Leviticus 1634, a verse I found says, This is to be a lasting ordinance to you, and he's speaking to Israel. atonement is to be made once a year for all the sins of the Israelites. So there again is the the once but this is once a year. This is not the once the one time sacrifice that Jesus did across 2021 years ago. And then it says, For all of the sins, but it's not for all of the people of the whole world, Jew and Gentile. This is for all of the sins of the Israelites. Unknown Speaker 6:02 And it wasn't for all time, because the year after Yom Kippur War, the day after Yom Kippur War, they had to start all over Unknown Speaker 6:10 again. It was never ending. Yes. And therefore the Israelites could never rest. Unknown Speaker 6:18 never rest. Unknown Speaker 6:21 God's love is acceptance is forgiveness. So, you know, I was just thinking, why is it that Christians, people in general, but Christians have such a hard time with this subject? Why are they begging God to forgive them when they sin? via verse first john one nine, which is the Christian bar of soap, right? Yeah, verse that they use, which isn't about forgiveness, but about salvation. But why do you think Heaven, we aren't hearing a complete message of God's one time sacrifice for all? Unknown Speaker 7:05 Well, I think there's probably a lot of answers to that, too, to kind of mine one, there's a spiritual blindness, that people are just blinded to the truth. They don't want to know the truth. Second, you know, we sin, we sin every day, we do stupid stuff every single day. And the human ego wants to say, I want to fix this, I love you, God, but let me just fix this little thing I'm doing here every day. And you know, it was a critical spirit, or, you know, lust, or God forbid, there's so many different things out there that people are struggling with. But they haven't come to the truth. They have not accepted the truth. Or then I think that Unknown Speaker 7:51 is that very thing that you just said, Kevin, is what I I believe, and I agree with you is the reason why many Christians don't know what they have, is because they're not going to the scriptures. They're not even urged to study the Scriptures. But if you do, and that's why we're doing these podcasts, right? Because that's all we do on these podcasts is read scriptures. If you go to the Scriptures, and you start to see how God has taken away your sins. It's it's hard to deny the fact that all of our sins have been taken away once and for all. And the only response that we should have as to thank God for taking over Harrisons after we send instead of begging him for what we already have. Unknown Speaker 8:45 Yes, why don't we read a few scriptures? If you want to start out with Hebrews 926, I'll go to 727. And then you can do 1012 if you're okay, let's just read them and then just go back and we can commentate after it. But let's just let people just soak in this truth. Unknown Speaker 9:04 Yeah, that's great, Hebrews 926 and 27. Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world, but he has appeared once and for all, at the culmination of the ages, to do with away with sin, by the sacrifice of himself. And so there it is, he is Jesus appeared one time for all people for all time, Unknown Speaker 9:37 for one people for all time. Next one is Hebrews 727, which says, unlike other high priest, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrifice for their once for all, when he offered himself, they did this for their own sins first, and then for the sins of the people referring, of course, to the priests and the nation of Israel. Unknown Speaker 10:15 So there again is that he sacrifice their sins once and for all. Unknown Speaker 10:22 Alright, you want to read Hebrews 1012 and finish it with 912. Unknown Speaker 10:25 Sure. But when this priests Jesus had offered for all time, one sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right hand of God. And since that time, he waits for his enemies to me, be made his footstool, for by one sacrifice, he is made perfect forever, those who are being made holy. So there again, Kevin, a right one time sacrifice for sin has the third time in the book of Hebrews, that we see that, Unknown Speaker 11:00 yeah. And here's another one, Hebrews 912, he did not enter by means of blood of goats in calves. But he entered the Most Holy Place, once for all, by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption. Unknown Speaker 11:22 So let's think through this, because let's think through what the book of Hebrews is telling us, what the writer is saying is that 2021 years ago, Jesus Christ came into this world. He was born, he did many miracles, he did many wonderful things. And then he went to the cross and took away all of our sins for all time. And we haven't even gotten to the resurrection yet. But let's just talk about the cross that one act for all of our sins for all time, if you understand that, and believe that, and then you put faith in that, because you could believe that, but not really put faith in that. And here's what I mean by that, I can believe that this chair to the next to me in my office will hold me up. But if I don't sit in the chair, I am putting faith in what I believe. And so if I'm still asking God to do what he says is a once and for all sacrifice. I don't really believe that. Unknown Speaker 12:39 Yeah, you're not putting your faith in it. I'm not putting Unknown Speaker 12:41 my faith in these truths. Unknown Speaker 12:44 Yeah, until you rest. Unknown Speaker 12:46 That's right. I'm saying, I don't believe these scriptures. And that's why I need to hedge my bet. Like, you know, like insurance, right? You're buying insurance and saying, well, just in case, these scriptures are not true. I'm gonna hedge my bet and ask God to forgive me. Unknown Speaker 13:07 Yeah, taking a short position and GameStop. Unknown Speaker 13:13 So, you know, that, again, goes back to what I said earlier that this is because people aren't studying the scriptures enough. Because when you keep seeing this over and over, and over this one time sacrifice for since then, you've got to come and make a decision. What does it mean, you have to make a conclusion about them? Unknown Speaker 13:42 Yes, you know what I mean? I know what you mean, I know what you mean. And that's, that's the other thing that hopefully, people can kind of get across in their minds right now. whatever they're doing, you know, I mean, whether it's Martin Luther that was lashing himself on his back and throwing himself out into snow, trying to make amends for his, you know, sins and behaviors, or people doing like we're saying the first sound when nine you know, just confessing it every day. You know, staying up late at night, trying to think about their throughout their whole day, not forgetting any of the sins. Unknown Speaker 14:28 But then you go to any go to sleep, Kevin worried? Because you forgot one of them. Or Yeah, you're worried and that's a sin. Unknown Speaker 14:37 So yeah, but the point, Mike, is that all of those things, basically are a slap in the face to God. They are all a slap in the face to God because God like I just said, God has displayed his forgiveness in Christ through his blood. Not, not through your actions, not through your asking for forgiveness, not through your penance of 50, Hail Marys, all that's human behavior. God has dealt with blood, there's forgiveness in the blood. The blood of bulls and goats in the Old Testament, which God do is divine forbearance, you know, forgave, until the once and for all forgiveness, the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ, if you're trying to offer anything other than your depending on anything except for the blood of Jesus Christ, you're slapping God in the face, plain and simple, plain and simple. Unknown Speaker 15:43 Alright, so let's go to a verse that's not in the book of Hebrews in case somebody is saying, Well, you know, you're just all only in the book of Hebrews. Well, let's go to second Corinthians 518 to 21. I absolutely love this. All this is from God. So you mentioned before, you know, where does this forgiveness come from? Well, this answers that it says, All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ, and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, that God was reconciling the world to Himself in Christ. I catch this, not counting people sins against them. Unknown Speaker 16:31 Wow. Not counting people sins against them. Unknown Speaker 16:36 And he is committed to us that message of reconciliation, and we are therefore Christ, Sinbad ambassadors, that's what we're doing here today is Christ's ambassadors, as Oh, God, we're making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God. Why? Because he's reconciled Himself to you just accept it. Hmm. Put your faith in a believe it and put your faith in it. God who made him who had no sin, to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God? What do you think of that? Unknown Speaker 17:20 I love it. So talk to me about verse 19, where it says not counting people's sins against them. What does that mean? Unknown Speaker 17:32 I mean, if we look at what what this is saying, There's only one way to look at it. And you can look at every verse, every version on Bible hub, they will all say the same thing in different ways, that God is not counting our sins against us. So if that's a fact, there's only one response that we can have, even when we sin, and that is to say, thank you. Thank you for doing that. But for me to say, Lord, forgive me. I am not believing that is not counting people sins against them. I wouldn't ask if I believed this verse and put faith in this first. And that's going on all over town. Yes, in many towns, and many churches, yes. Unknown Speaker 18:32 Yes, it is. Unknown Speaker 18:35 Really preposterous. And so I just think getting to the Scriptures, reading them seeking them out. There are many, many, many verses. about forgiveness, Romans 610 says the death he died, he died to sin. once for all. But the life he lives he lives Unknown Speaker 18:59 Romans, chapter six, verse 10. That's Romans 610. Yes. The death he died, he died to sin once for all. But the life he lives mostly God. Unknown Speaker 19:16 Yeah, just, yeah, it's beautiful. And it's so it's so in our face, right? It's just something that if we can come to grips with this, this is life changing stuff. Unknown Speaker 19:34 Yes, it is. Here's another one in Matthew 2628. This is my blood of the new covenant which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sin. So it's a blood covenant. The blood of Jesus Christ poured out for many, the many are all who whosoever there For will receive him this blood is poured out now it's it's it's a gift on an a Christmas tree for the whole world. Yeah, there's enough blood there for the whole world to cover the whole world but it's for the forgiveness of the world. You know, john 316 he did it for the world, but you have to personalize it, you have to own a you have to receive it. Unknown Speaker 20:25 The fact that he took away our sins, that's something he did, whether we receive it or not, will not change the fact that he has already done it is already taken writer sense. But yes, we should receive that. Except guys were considered reconciliation. That's what we just read in First Corinthians five, be reconciled? Okay, Unknown Speaker 20:54 I set your mind to it. Connection. Unknown Speaker 20:58 How about Hebrews 812? Unknown Speaker 21:01 All right, Oh, got it for I will forgive their wickedness and remember their sins no more? No, ma? Wow. Wow. Can you rest in that? Connect, give you confidence that God is going to remember as black and white. If you've reconciled to me, I'm not going to remember your sins no more. Now, I thought we had in there, the Hebrew verse one of my favorite verses talking about when he comes back. Unknown Speaker 21:36 Alright, so let's read Hebrews 928. I want to read that. Unknown Speaker 21:40 And just as it is pointing for man to die once and after that comes judgment. So Christ, having been offered wants to bear the sins of many will appear a second time. That's the second coming of Christ, not to deal with sin. So when Christ comes back, he's not coming back to ask you about your sin. But to save those who are eagerly waiting for him. That is one of my favorite verses in the whole Bible. Unknown Speaker 22:13 Absolutely. Unknown Speaker 22:15 I mean, it pretty much covers a whole bunch of stuff right there. Unknown Speaker 22:20 Well, let's, let's ask this question, Why will he appear a second time not to bear sin? Unknown Speaker 22:28 Because he's already covered it. He's already done away with it. It's a once and for all, forgiveness, for all sacrifice. He is the high priest. He's the high priest who sat down at the right hand of God, Unknown Speaker 22:46 His job was finished. Unknown Speaker 22:47 Alright, so if you are in Christ, and Christ sat down, where are you at? You're sitting down in Christ, if you are spiritually in Christ, if he's in you, and you're in him, as john tells us, then if Christ is sitting down, then we're sitting down in regards to our performance and behavior and trying to make up for ourselves. Now, do we not? We're not saying that you don't have to do good things. But you do good things as a result of what's already been done, not not in a way to earn what's already been done. Unknown Speaker 23:28 That's right. It's a different motive. Unknown Speaker 23:30 The different mo it all comes back to your heart. Unknown Speaker 23:34 You know, when you think about the book of Hebrews, why was this mentioned this once and for all mentioned six times? And I thought, Okay, well, here's to me, here's the answer, is because he's the writer, he Rosen doesn't disclose who it is, is writing to the Hebrews, who struggled with the fact that somebody came from a different tribe, not the tribe of Levi, but the tribe of Judah. And it came not by the blood of bulls and goats, that's what they were used to. Yes. And now a human being goes to the cross. And he also he's claiming to be God, by the way, and he offers himself as a one time sacrifice for sins. Well, that's why this has to be said six times over and over and over. Because who was he writing to? Unknown Speaker 24:28 I mean, think if you were literally a high priest for the nation of Israel, How hard would it be for you to recant everything you've done for your whole life? You've devoted your whole life to, you know, for God's service of sacrificing animals, so on and so forth. That's all you know. And this Jesus guy comes along and says, This is the new way. I am the vine, you're the branches. I'm the water. I'm the life. I'm the bread mean just saying all these things that was such a anomaly to the Jewish people to accept. Unknown Speaker 25:10 So you know, Kevin, in the same way, you know how Jesus was abused and mocked. Just be prepared for this listeners, you will be mocked, you will be abused by many who do not want to believe this one time sacrifice for since, yeah, just be prepared. It's not easy, but it's really what people need to know both Christians and non Christians, that Jesus took away our sins one time, that it was the divine act of him taking away our sins, that he eventually rose from the dead, that anyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. Unknown Speaker 25:57 You know, I've gotta, I gotta say this last verse, since you just mentioned the tribulation. I'm doing the book of john with my mom and our girlfriends in Florida. And we're on john chapter 16. And it's basically talking about that we're going to enter tribulation. JOHN 1633 is our verse of the week. It says, I said these things to you that in me, you may have peace. In the world, you will have tribulation, take heart, I have overcome the world. Jesus Christ Himself is telling all of his followers, if you're in me, you're gonna have trouble in this world. They killed me. They're not gonna treat you very Unknown Speaker 26:43 nicely. Unknown Speaker 26:47 But that's okay, because we're talking about eternal life. And it's worth it, Kevin. It's worth it. Unknown Speaker 26:53 Thank you for listening to grace coach. If you want to connect with us, we would love to engage with you. Email us at the Grace [email protected] visit our Facebook page, or visit our website, Grace coach.org Transcribed by https://otter.ai