CW: This episode deals with intense topics such a child sexual abuse + religious trauma. In this episode, Kerry + David speak with Micki Morelli. When I (David) was in my 20s, I taught at a Christian school in Santa Barbara. Mickie was one of the students there, and I think I met her when she was about 8 years old. She survived her school experience because of her own intuition, her parents’ support, and a couple of compassionate teachers. Her reflections will be meaningful to anyone who attended a fundamentalist school as a child.  This will be especially true for those whose school who sadly did not consider the pain of fundamentalism, learning disabilities, dyslexia, sexism, homophobia, and especially white supremacy. Mickie is the definition of compassion. ABOUT YOUR HOSTS David is a University of California Santa Barbara alum and leads Santa Barbara’s Beloved Community Church, and also Jesus Collective, an online community which exists to foster wholeness and equity by healing relationships and cultural divides, honoring the dignity of all peoples, and protecting the biodiversity of our planet, through actively listening, understanding, partnering, and serving. He is the author of Making America Great Again: Fairy Tale? Horror Story? Dream Come True? Learn more at www.davidnmoore.com Kerry Connelly, (she / her) MDiv, CCLC is the author of Good White Racist? Confronting Your Role in Racial Injustice and Wait, Is This Racist? A Guide to Becoming an Antiracist Church. Kerry holds her Master of Divinity from Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, where she is currently pursuing her Doctorate of Ministry. She is a Certified Coach with additional certifications in DISC personality styles, conflict resolution (Cornell University), + she is a NYC Leadership Fellow. Passionate about all things spiritual, she is also trained in a number of intuitive energy healing modalities, including traditional Usui Reiki and Angel Reiki. When she is not consulting with predominantly White churches to help them deconstruct White pseudosupremacy in their daily operations, she is working 1:1 with clients to help them connect with their own higher guidance and to live deeply intuitive lives. You can learn more about Kerry at www.kerryconnelly.com.

CW: This episode deals with intense topics such a child sexual abuse + religious trauma. In this episode, Kerry + David speak with Micki Morelli. When I (David) was in my 20s, I taught at a Christian school in Santa Barbara. Mickie was one of the students there, and I think I met her when she was about 8 years old. She survived her school experience because of her own intuition, her parents’ support, and a couple of compassionate teachers. Her reflections will be meaningful to anyone who attended a fundamentalist school as a child.  This will be especially true for those whose school who sadly did not consider the pain of fundamentalism, learning disabilities, dyslexia, sexism, homophobia, and especially white supremacy. Mickie is the definition of compassion. ABOUT YOUR HOSTS David is a University of California Santa Barbara alum and leads Santa Barbara’s Beloved Community Church, and also Jesus Collective, an online community which exists to foster wholeness and equity by healing relationships and cultural divides, honoring the dignity of all peoples, and protecting the biodiversity of our planet, through actively listening, understanding, partnering, and serving. He is the author of Making America Great Again: Fairy Tale? Horror Story? Dream Come True? Learn more at www.davidnmoore.com Kerry Connelly, (she / her) MDiv, CCLC is the author of Good White Racist? Confronting Your Role in Racial Injustice and Wait, Is This Racist? A Guide to Becoming an Antiracist Church. Kerry holds her Master of Divinity from Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, where she is currently pursuing her Doctorate of Ministry. She is a Certified Coach with additional certifications in DISC personality styles, conflict resolution (Cornell University), + she is a NYC Leadership Fellow. Passionate about all things spiritual, she is also trained in a number of intuitive energy healing modalities, including traditional Usui Reiki and Angel Reiki. When she is not consulting with predominantly White churches to help them deconstruct White pseudosupremacy in their daily operations, she is working 1:1 with clients to help them connect with their own higher guidance and to live deeply intuitive lives. You can learn more about Kerry at www.kerryconnelly.com.

In this episode, Kerry + David speak with Mac James. Mac James, known by the Santa Barbara community where he grew up as Gene James, is a former fundamentalist Christian who left the church in his late teens and spent the next several years searching for a way to connect with the world around him. This led to him becoming a Buddhist in the late nineties and later, a meditation teacher. His current interests lie in decolonization, equity, and diversity, with a particular focus around the Indigenous and rainbow communities. He currently lives on a small farm in New Zealand with his wife, son, two chickens, two pigs, and one mad dog. ABOUT YOUR HOSTS David is a University of California Santa Barbara alum and leads Santa Barbara’s Beloved Community Church, and also Jesus Collective, an online community which exists to foster wholeness and equity by healing relationships and cultural divides, honoring the dignity of all peoples, and protecting the biodiversity of our planet, through actively listening, understanding, partnering, and serving. He is the author of Making America Great Again: Fairy Tale? Horror Story? Dream Come True? Learn more at www.davidnmoore.com Kerry Connelly, (she / her) MDiv, CCLC is the author of Good White Racist? Confronting Your Role in Racial Injustice and Wait, Is This Racist? A Guide to Becoming an Antiracist Church. Kerry holds her Master of Divinity from Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, where she is currently pursuing her Doctorate of Ministry. She is a Certified Coach with additional certifications in DISC personality styles, conflict resolution (Cornell University), + she is a NYC Leadership Fellow. Passionate about all things spiritual, she is also trained in a number of intuitive energy healing modalities, including traditional Usui Reiki and Angel Reiki. When she is not consulting with predominantly White churches to help them deconstruct White pseudosupremacy in their daily operations, she is working 1:1 with clients to help them connect with their own higher guidance and to live deeply intuitive lives. You can learn more about Kerry at www.kerryconnelly.com.

In this episode, Kerry + David speak with Mac James. Mac James, known by the Santa Barbara community where he grew up as Gene James, is a former fundamentalist Christian who left the church in his late teens and spent the next several years searching for a way to connect with the world around him. This led to him becoming a Buddhist in the late nineties and later, a meditation teacher. His current interests lie in decolonization, equity, and diversity, with a particular focus around the Indigenous and rainbow communities. He currently lives on a small farm in New Zealand with his wife, son, two chickens, two pigs, and one mad dog. ABOUT YOUR HOSTS David is a University of California Santa Barbara alum and leads Santa Barbara’s Beloved Community Church, and also Jesus Collective, an online community which exists to foster wholeness and equity by healing relationships and cultural divides, honoring the dignity of all peoples, and protecting the biodiversity of our planet, through actively listening, understanding, partnering, and serving. He is the author of Making America Great Again: Fairy Tale? Horror Story? Dream Come True? Learn more at www.davidnmoore.com Kerry Connelly, (she / her) MDiv, CCLC is the author of Good White Racist? Confronting Your Role in Racial Injustice and Wait, Is This Racist? A Guide to Becoming an Antiracist Church. Kerry holds her Master of Divinity from Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, where she is currently pursuing her Doctorate of Ministry. She is a Certified Coach with additional certifications in DISC personality styles, conflict resolution (Cornell University), + she is a NYC Leadership Fellow. Passionate about all things spiritual, she is also trained in a number of intuitive energy healing modalities, including traditional Usui Reiki and Angel Reiki. When she is not consulting with predominantly White churches to help them deconstruct White pseudosupremacy in their daily operations, she is working 1:1 with clients to help them connect with their own higher guidance and to live deeply intuitive lives. You can learn more about Kerry at www.kerryconnelly.com.

In this episode, Kerry + David speak with Barb Parnet, who has a fascinating story of faith. "It was in Jerusalem in 1969 when i began to question the old testament God. I was on pilgrimage with forty 16 year olds from the Jewish community in Kansas City. Among us were those with various levels of religious observance.  Some kept Kosher, others were more reform.  We came from different synagogues and temples .  We were there to visit holy sites as well as the Dead Sea, Kibbutzim, archeological sites, the souk in the old city, the beach at Eilat. We even met David Ben Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel  at Sde Boker in the desert. One day, we were listening to a Rabbi talk to us about the 613 commandments in the Torah, the old testament.   I asked the Rabbi  “if I do not keep every one of the 613 commandments, does that mean I am not a good Jew?”,  and he said YES. "Something happened to me at that moment.  My body was telling me in my gut that he was wrong.  I knew I was a good person. I did not know what that meant as far as God was concerned.  I still recited the Shema which is a declaration of faith to God that you declare on the door post of your house and upon your gates.  Mostly I felt rejected. There was no room for discussion, but something in me knew he was wrong.  I was a good girl and I knew better than to try and argue." ABOUT YOUR HOSTS David is a University of California Santa Barbara alum and leads Santa Barbara’s Beloved Community Church, and also Jesus Collective, an online community which exists to foster wholeness and equity by healing relationships and cultural divides, honoring the dignity of all peoples, and protecting the biodiversity of our planet, through actively listening, understanding, partnering, and serving. He is the author of Making America Great Again: Fairy Tale? Horror Story? Dream Come True? Learn more at www.davidnmoore.com Kerry Connelly, (she / her) MDiv, CCLC is the author of Good White Racist? Confronting Your Role in Racial Injustice and Wait, Is This Racist? A Guide to Becoming an Antiracist Church. Kerry holds her Master of Divinity from Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, where she is currently pursuing her Doctorate of Ministry. She is a Certified Coach with additional certifications in DISC personality styles, conflict resolution (Cornell University), + she is a NYC Leadership Fellow. Passionate about all things spiritual, she is also trained in a number of intuitive energy healing modalities, including traditional Usui Reiki and Angel Reiki. When she is not consulting with predominantly White churches to help them deconstruct White pseudosupremacy in their daily operations, she is working 1:1 with clients to help them connect with their own higher guidance and to live deeply intuitive lives. You can learn more about Kerry at www.kerryconnelly.com.

In this episode, Kerry + David speak with Barb Parnet, who has a fascinating story of faith. "It was in Jerusalem in 1969 when i began to question the old testament God. I was on pilgrimage with forty 16 year olds from the Jewish community in Kansas City. Among us were those with various levels of religious observance.  Some kept Kosher, others were more reform.  We came from different synagogues and temples .  We were there to visit holy sites as well as the Dead Sea, Kibbutzim, archeological sites, the souk in the old city, the beach at Eilat. We even met David Ben Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel  at Sde Boker in the desert. One day, we were listening to a Rabbi talk to us about the 613 commandments in the Torah, the old testament.   I asked the Rabbi  “if I do not keep every one of the 613 commandments, does that mean I am not a good Jew?”,  and he said YES. "Something happened to me at that moment.  My body was telling me in my gut that he was wrong.  I knew I was a good person. I did not know what that meant as far as God was concerned.  I still recited the Shema which is a declaration of faith to God that you declare on the door post of your house and upon your gates.  Mostly I felt rejected. There was no room for discussion, but something in me knew he was wrong.  I was a good girl and I knew better than to try and argue." ABOUT YOUR HOSTS David is a University of California Santa Barbara alum and leads Santa Barbara’s Beloved Community Church, and also Jesus Collective, an online community which exists to foster wholeness and equity by healing relationships and cultural divides, honoring the dignity of all peoples, and protecting the biodiversity of our planet, through actively listening, understanding, partnering, and serving. He is the author of Making America Great Again: Fairy Tale? Horror Story? Dream Come True? Learn more at www.davidnmoore.com Kerry Connelly, (she / her) MDiv, CCLC is the author of Good White Racist? Confronting Your Role in Racial Injustice and Wait, Is This Racist? A Guide to Becoming an Antiracist Church. Kerry holds her Master of Divinity from Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, where she is currently pursuing her Doctorate of Ministry. She is a Certified Coach with additional certifications in DISC personality styles, conflict resolution (Cornell University), + she is a NYC Leadership Fellow. Passionate about all things spiritual, she is also trained in a number of intuitive energy healing modalities, including traditional Usui Reiki and Angel Reiki. When she is not consulting with predominantly White churches to help them deconstruct White pseudosupremacy in their daily operations, she is working 1:1 with clients to help them connect with their own higher guidance and to live deeply intuitive lives. You can learn more about Kerry at www.kerryconnelly.com.

Verónica is a neurodivergent indigenous woman who doesn't fit-in anywhere but belongs everywhere; "ni de aqui, ni de alla" ("neither from here, nor there"). Verónica was born in San Jose, California and was raised in the border-town of Calexico, California; she is the daughter of an urban Native-American vietnam war veteran father (protestant pentecostal) and a rural-farming Mexican immigrant mother (former roman catholic). While earning her master's of arts in theology, Verónica served at a Presbyterian church in Highland Park, where she realized the glass ceiling for women in ministry was lowered but removed. While working with various populations with similar traumas as hers and her families, she decided to pursue a master's of science in marital and family therapy. After working 13+ years as a psychotherapist in various contexts and settings, Verónica now considers herself an "outlier of outliers" clinician who's calling in life has, is and always will be, to serve the marginalized communities that surround her, while "following the Jesus way", as elder Richard Twiss (Lakota/Siux) would say. *(Book reference: One Church, Many Tribes: Following Jesus the Way God Made You). ABOUT YOUR HOSTS David is a University of California Santa Barbara alum and leads Santa Barbara’s Beloved Community Church, and also Jesus Collective, an online community which exists to foster wholeness and equity by healing relationships and cultural divides, honoring the dignity of all peoples, and protecting the biodiversity of our planet, through actively listening, understanding, partnering, and serving. He is the author of Making America Great Again: Fairy Tale? Horror Story? Dream Come True? Learn more at www.davidnmoore.com Kerry Connelly, (she / her) MDiv, CCLC is the author of Good White Racist? Confronting Your Role in Racial Injustice and Wait, Is This Racist? A Guide to Becoming an Antiracist Church. Kerry holds her Master of Divinity from Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, where she is currently pursuing her Doctorate of Ministry. She is a Certified Coach with additional certifications in DISC personality styles, conflict resolution (Cornell University), + she is a NYC Leadership Fellow. Passionate about all things spiritual, she is also trained in a number of intuitive energy healing modalities, including traditional Usui Reiki and Angel Reiki. When she is not consulting with predominantly White churches to help them deconstruct White pseudosupremacy in their daily operations, she is working 1:1 with clients to help them connect with their own higher guidance and to live deeply intuitive lives. You can learn more about Kerry at www.kerryconnelly.com.

Verónica is a neurodivergent indigenous woman who doesn't fit-in anywhere but belongs everywhere; "ni de aqui, ni de alla" ("neither from here, nor there"). Verónica was born in San Jose, California and was raised in the border-town of Calexico, California; she is the daughter of an urban Native-American vietnam war veteran father (protestant pentecostal) and a rural-farming Mexican immigrant mother (former roman catholic). While earning her master's of arts in theology, Verónica served at a Presbyterian church in Highland Park, where she realized the glass ceiling for women in ministry was lowered but removed. While working with various populations with similar traumas as hers and her families, she decided to pursue a master's of science in marital and family therapy. After working 13+ years as a psychotherapist in various contexts and settings, Verónica now considers herself an "outlier of outliers" clinician who's calling in life has, is and always will be, to serve the marginalized communities that surround her, while "following the Jesus way", as elder Richard Twiss (Lakota/Siux) would say. *(Book reference: One Church, Many Tribes: Following Jesus the Way God Made You). ABOUT YOUR HOSTS David is a University of California Santa Barbara alum and leads Santa Barbara’s Beloved Community Church, and also Jesus Collective, an online community which exists to foster wholeness and equity by healing relationships and cultural divides, honoring the dignity of all peoples, and protecting the biodiversity of our planet, through actively listening, understanding, partnering, and serving. He is the author of Making America Great Again: Fairy Tale? Horror Story? Dream Come True? Learn more at www.davidnmoore.com Kerry Connelly, (she / her) MDiv, CCLC is the author of Good White Racist? Confronting Your Role in Racial Injustice and Wait, Is This Racist? A Guide to Becoming an Antiracist Church. Kerry holds her Master of Divinity from Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, where she is currently pursuing her Doctorate of Ministry. She is a Certified Coach with additional certifications in DISC personality styles, conflict resolution (Cornell University), + she is a NYC Leadership Fellow. Passionate about all things spiritual, she is also trained in a number of intuitive energy healing modalities, including traditional Usui Reiki and Angel Reiki. When she is not consulting with predominantly White churches to help them deconstruct White pseudosupremacy in their daily operations, she is working 1:1 with clients to help them connect with their own higher guidance and to live deeply intuitive lives. You can learn more about Kerry at www.kerryconnelly.com.

In this episode, David and Kerry speak with award-winning film-maker, writer, and entrepreneur, Lisa Alexander about her upcoming film, My Father, the Queen — a story that explores the relationship of a closeted gay Black man and his daughter, Kelly. The relationship turns cold after Walter is exposed by his wife Carolyn. Kelly is desperate for validation and approval and compromises herself to get it. The two are forced together during the pandemic when Walter catches COVID and lists Kelly as his next of kin. The film spans the 70s, 80s, 90s, and current day. ABOUT YOUR HOSTS David is a University of California Santa Barbara alum and leads Santa Barbara’s Beloved Community Church, and also Jesus Collective, an online community which exists to foster wholeness and equity by healing relationships and cultural divides, honoring the dignity of all peoples, and protecting the biodiversity of our planet, through actively listening, understanding, partnering, and serving. He is the author of Making America Great Again: Fairy Tale? Horror Story? Dream Come True? Learn more at www.davidnmoore.com Kerry Connelly, (she / her) MDiv, CCLC is the author of Good White Racist? Confronting Your Role in Racial Injustice and Wait, Is This Racist? A Guide to Becoming an Antiracist Church. Kerry holds her Master of Divinity from Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, where she is currently pursuing her Doctorate of Ministry. She is a Certified Coach with additional certifications in DISC personality styles, conflict resolution (Cornell University), + she is a NYC Leadership Fellow. Passionate about all things spiritual, she is also trained in a number of intuitive energy healing modalities, including traditional Usui Reiki and Angel Reiki. When she is not consulting with predominantly White churches to help them deconstruct White pseudosupremacy in their daily operations, she is working 1:1 with clients to help them connect with their own higher guidance and to live deeply intuitive lives. You can learn more about Kerry at www.kerryconnelly.com.

In this episode, David and Kerry speak with award-winning film-maker, writer, and entrepreneur, Lisa Alexander about her upcoming film, My Father, the Queen — a story that explores the relationship of a closeted gay Black man and his daughter, Kelly. The relationship turns cold after Walter is exposed by his wife Carolyn. Kelly is desperate for validation and approval and compromises herself to get it. The two are forced together during the pandemic when Walter catches COVID and lists Kelly as his next of kin. The film spans the 70s, 80s, 90s, and current day. ABOUT YOUR HOSTS David is a University of California Santa Barbara alum and leads Santa Barbara’s Beloved Community Church, and also Jesus Collective, an online community which exists to foster wholeness and equity by healing relationships and cultural divides, honoring the dignity of all peoples, and protecting the biodiversity of our planet, through actively listening, understanding, partnering, and serving. He is the author of Making America Great Again: Fairy Tale? Horror Story? Dream Come True? Learn more at www.davidnmoore.com Kerry Connelly, (she / her) MDiv, CCLC is the author of Good White Racist? Confronting Your Role in Racial Injustice and Wait, Is This Racist? A Guide to Becoming an Antiracist Church. Kerry holds her Master of Divinity from Christian Theological Seminary in Indianapolis, where she is currently pursuing her Doctorate of Ministry. She is a Certified Coach with additional certifications in DISC personality styles, conflict resolution (Cornell University), + she is a NYC Leadership Fellow. Passionate about all things spiritual, she is also trained in a number of intuitive energy healing modalities, including traditional Usui Reiki and Angel Reiki. When she is not consulting with predominantly White churches to help them deconstruct White pseudosupremacy in their daily operations, she is working 1:1 with clients to help them connect with their own higher guidance and to live deeply intuitive lives. You can learn more about Kerry at www.kerryconnelly.com.