Getting Meta
Getting Meta
IVM Podcasts
Getting Meta is a show where Deepak Gopalakrishnan (or Chuck, as the world calls him) speaks to some very smart people to unravel their habits, thought processes, tools and mental models - which can then be applied by anyone, from any field. Chuck speaks to authors, entrepreneurs, entertainers, and just people who lead that elusive "sorted" life. The show focuses less on their achievements or field, and more on them as a person and their ways of thinking - hence, getting meta with them. Because of the nature of the show, these are questions some of the interviewees have never been asked before - ranging from the personal to the professional. Each episode aims to inspire, entertain and leave you with things to ask yourself, frameworks to apply and good content to check out. There will be an initial season of 10 interviews, and this is Chuck's third podcast, following Simblified (comedy + topical) and The Origin of Things (trivia + storytelling). As a freelancer who's constantly looking for ways to hack his own productivity and get more out of life, this is Chuck's new passion project - especially since it gives him the chance to speak to people he admires and dig deeper into how they think.
Bonus episode 7: Ask Meta # 4
Welcome to the first second of Ask Meta, the bonus segment of this podcast where I answer your questions on careers, freelancing, productivity and whatever else you think I am qualified to answer!This week, two questions on finding freelance work, and two questions around personal content creation!I'd love to answer your questions. Just ping me below and I'll take things ahead from there!Instagram ->instagram.com/chuckofalltradesTwitter-> twitter.com/chuck_gopalEmail -> [email protected]
Nov 5, 2021
18 min
Bonus episode 6: Ask Meta # 3
Welcome to the first second of Ask Meta, the bonus segment of this podcast where I answer your questions on careers, freelancing, productivity and whatever else you think I am qualified to answer!This time, questions about side hustles, choosing jobs, and figuring out what one is good at.I'd love to answer your questions. Just ping me below and I'll take things ahead from there!Instagram -> instagram.com/chuckofalltradesTwitter-> twitter.com/chuck_gopalEmail-> [email protected] you next week with more Ask Meta!
Oct 29, 2021
20 min
Bonus episode 5: Ask Meta # 2
Welcome to the first second of Ask Meta, the bonus segment of this podcast where I answer your questions on careers, freelancing, productivity and whatever else you think I am qualified to answer!In this episode, I answer questions from Aishwarya (on planning for future work as a freelancer), Shehzad (about the value of an MBA and building a career in the creative field) and Akshay (a thoughtful question about growth as a freelancer).I'd love to answer your questions. Just ping me below and I'll take things ahead from there!Instagram -> instagram.com/chuckofalltradesTwitter -> twitter.com/chuck_gopalEmail -> [email protected] you next week with more Ask Meta!
Oct 22, 2021
25 min
Bonus episode 4: Ask Meta # 1
Welcome to the first episode of Ask Meta, the bonus segment of this podcast where I answer your questions on careers, freelancing, productivity and whatever else you think I am qualified to answer!In this episode, I answer questions from Abhijit (on moving to another country), Vaishnavi (on why I got into digital marketing / freelancing), Prem (on how to build a name as a content strategy consultant) and an anonymous question (on when to quit a job). Great first set of questions to kick this series off, and I hope my answers make sense!I'd love to answer your questions. Just ping me below and I'll take things ahead from there!Instagram -> instagram.com/chuckofalltradesTwitter -> twitter.com/chuck_gopalEmail-> [email protected] you next week with more Ask Meta!
Oct 15, 2021
25 min
Bonus episode 3: Getting Meta with Simblified!
I appeared as a guest on my own show, Simblified! I chat with my pals Naren, Srikeit and Tony about Getting Meta. How it came about, what my learnings were and our own takes on productivity. It was a deeply personal chat with the gang I usually joke around with and I hope you enjoy it! Ask Meta!Have a question for me? Something related to careers or productivity or mental models I could help answer? This is a new segment I'm going to try out in a couple of weeks. Mail me any question at all you have (don't worry about how you structure it, we can figure that out). Mail me at [email protected]. I look forward to hearing from you!You can also reach out to me on:twitter.com/chuck_gopalinstagram.com/chuckofalltrades
Oct 1, 2021
58 min
Bonus episode 2: Chuck's interview with Ashdin Doctor (Part 2)
I appeared on Ashdin Doctor's excellent podcast, The Habit Coach to talk about Getting Meta and why I decided to start it, along with a few learnings from there. We did two episodes and I'm sharing them both here (cross-promo!). The interviews first aired on The Habit Coach in August 2021. This is the second of a two-part series, and the first part was out last week.If you enjoyed the interviews on Getting Meta till now, I'm sure you'll enjoy these, and you should also check out The Habit Coach as it's an excellent podcast about habits and improving one's life in meaningful ways. It was an honour for me to be on the show!Ask Meta!Have a question for me? Something related to careers or productivity or mental models I could help answer? This is a new segment I'm going to try out in a few weeks' time. Mail me any question at all you have (don't worry about how you structure it, we can figure that out). Mail me at [email protected]. I look forward to hearing from you!You can also reach out to me on:twitter.com/chuck_gopalinstagram.com/chuckofalltrades
Sep 24, 2021
44 min
Bonus episode 1 : Chuck's interview with Ashdin Doctor (Part 1)
I appeared on Ashdin Doctor's excellent podcast, The Habit Coach to talk about Getting Meta and why I decided to start it, along with a few learnings from there. We did two episodes and I'm sharing them both here (cross-promo!). The interviews first aired on The Habit Coach in August 2021. This is the first of a two-part series, and the next part will be out next week.If you enjoyed the interviews on Getting Meta till now, I'm sure you'll enjoy these, and you should also check out The Habit Coach as it's an excellent podcast about habits and improving one's life in meaningful ways. It was an honour for me to be on the show!Ask Meta!Have a question for me? Something related to careers or productivity or mental models I could help answer? This is a new segment I'm going to try out in a few weeks' time. Mail me any question at all you have (don't worry about how you structure it, we can figure that out). Mail me at [email protected]. I look forward to hearing from you!You can also reach out to me on:twitter.com/chuck_gopalinstagram.com/chuckofalltrades
Sep 17, 2021
37 min
Srini Swaminathan : Social Development Consultant
In the season finale of Getting Meta 2021, I am absolutely thrilled to have Srini Swaminathan as a guest. Srini is extremely active in the social service space - having organised several fundraisers, Covid reliefs, was on-ground for the farmer protests, was a part of Teach for India, and so so much more. But even if you exclude that, there is so much to talk to him about - he’s an active marathoner, he’s cycled from Kashmir to Kanyakumari, and Kutch to Guwahati. He is also just an incredible guy. Eternally optimistic, lots of stories… He started life in poverty but he’s led a very rich life. He’s recently written a book on sustainability as well, which happily, coincides with the release of this episode. In this interview, we speak about:His childhood and how that shaped himAsking why - and how that has driven everything that he’s doneHis motto for social service - Show up consistently, serve, share genuinely.How he himself changed: From a sheltered life in poverty, to a dauntingly huge college, to oil fields in Venezuela, leaving a lucrative job to become a teacher, to endurance sport.Learning from bad experiences.Starting with an expiry date in mind & planning for worst case scenarioNear death experiences - four of them (!) and what he learnt from thatHow he went from having asthma to finishing 28 full marathonsAnd finally… Staying positive Everything Srini:Twitter: https://twitter.com/srini091Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/srini091AboutMe: https://about.me/srini091His book about sustainability: https://amzn.to/2UIU7h4References made during the show, not in order:“What will I do about it” an Instagram post: https://www.instagram.com/p/CA8PM6EJxOx/On his cycling trip across the country: https://yourstory.com/2018/03/srini-swaminathan-marathon-solar-schools/ampGetting Meta links:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/40Vo30aQilVrxEOkoSmDjx?si=pCOPeJlcR0uN_g2ZZs8iLQ&dl_branch=1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-meta/id1573882113Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9zdGF0aWMuYWRvcmlsYWJzLmNvbS9mZWVkL2dldHRpbmctbWV0YS54bWwIVM website: https://shows.ivmpodcasts.com/show/getting-meta-y2rb-RtSzWNdzZ8i99R2QFollow your host on:Twitter: twitter.com/chuck_gopalInstagram: instagram.com/chuckofalltradesEmail: [email protected]
Sep 10, 2021
1 hr 58 min
Lavanya Mohan : Ex-CA, marketing professional & personal finance nerd
I speak to my friend and someone whose work I’ve admired for a long time - Lavanya Mohan. Lavanya, who many might know as lavsmohan, used to run one of India’s funniest blogs about a decade ago, called ChutneyCase. Since then, she has transitioned into a very interesting niche - personal finance from a woman’s point of view in India. In between, she has also been a freelance writer for several publications, on topics ranging from culture to humour to finance. For me, it was a pleasure to speak to her since it wasn’t just a great conversation with lots of insights, but also a chance to catch up with a Friend.In this interview, we speak about:Storytelling and how that was the root of everything that followed in her lifeHow her writing evolvedHow the biggest shift in her life happened quite unexpectedlyHow not to be scared of money or finance (especially looking at finance through the lens of something you are already passionate about)Building niches, but trying whatever you canTaking advantage of your situation, and not being bummed out you’re not being where the action isHow “explain it like I’m 5” is the ultimate test of whether you’ve understood somethingProductivity, routine, setting personal goals, and finding your “creative best time”How audiences determine the content - direct, even! - that a creator might doEverything Lavanya Mohan:Her Twitter: http://twitter.com/lavsmohanHer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lavsmohanThe website on personal finance she runs, Penn Money: http://pennmoney.com/The articles she wrote for The News Minute under the moniker Rupee Rani: https://www.thenewsminute.com/author-articles/Lavanya-MohanReferences made during the show, not in order:Narendra Shenoy’s old blog: http://narendrashenoy.blogspot.com/What is Bullet Journaling: https://bulletjournal.com/pages/learnThe case study I wrote about the protein bar brand, The Whole Truth: https://thehardcopy.co/and-nothing-but-the-truth/Getting Meta links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/40Vo30aQilVrxEOkoSmDjx?si=pCOPeJlcR0uN_g2ZZs8iLQ&dl_branch=1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-meta/id1573882113Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9zdGF0aWMuYWRvcmlsYWJzLmNvbS9mZWVkL2dldHRpbmctbWV0YS54bWwIVM website: https://shows.ivmpodcasts.com/show/getting-meta-y2rb-RtSzWNdzZ8i99R2QFollow your host on:Twitter: twitter.com/chuck_gopalInstagram: instagram.com/chuckofalltradesEmail: [email protected]
Sep 3, 2021
58 min
Meeta Malhotra : Founder, The Hard Copy
In this episode, I speak to Meeta Malhotra, someone who dons many hats. Currently, she is the founder and editor of The Hard Copy, an excellent publication on branding and design which I write for, and through which I have gotten to know her well. But before that, she made a name for herself as a partner at Ray & Keshavan, India’s once-premier design agency, before it was sold to advertising conglomerate WPP in 2013. From then, Meeta has been a serial investor, entrepreneur and mentor. I’ve had some excellent conversations in the last two years with Meeta thanks to the work I’ve done for her publication, and I count myself fortunate to be able to do so, benefiting from her wisdom and experience. I was very keen to have her on this show not only to get her insights but also to talk about something apart from what we always end up talking about! In this interview, we speak about:How if fundamentals are in place, everything else works out.How to charge a premium beyond having technical skills.How to not be scared of making mistakesOn the two methods of reading - the rabbithole and the hurdle raceBuilding the ability to zoom out and looking at the larger pictureThe power of compounding and how to go about “networking”… And what IS a network, in the first place?Two things that you need to survive over the next few years - adaptability and resilienceEverything Meeta Malhotra:Her Twitter: http://twitter.com/meetamalhotraHer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meeta_malhotraThe Hard Copy, which she edits: https://thehardcopy.co/Her personal website: https://meetamalhotra.com/A talk she did in March 2020 on awareness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L282QAC6KgReferences made during the show, not in order:The Great Influenza by John Barry (book): https://www.amazon.in/dp/B08CGSJT44The article on The Hard Copy on virtual concerts: https://thehardcopy.co/the-future-of-live-entertainment/Getting Meta links:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/40Vo30aQilVrxEOkoSmDjx?si=pCOPeJlcR0uN_g2ZZs8iLQ&dl_branch=1Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-meta/id1573882113Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9zdGF0aWMuYWRvcmlsYWJzLmNvbS9mZWVkL2dldHRpbmctbWV0YS54bWwIVM website: https://shows.ivmpodcasts.com/show/getting-meta-y2rb-RtSzWNdzZ8i99R2QFollow your host on:Twitter: twitter.com/chuck_gopalInstagram: instagram.com/chuckofalltradesEmail: [email protected]
Aug 27, 2021
59 min
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