
Dan Vahdat (@DanVahdat), CEO of Huma (@humaforhealth), interviewed by Trond Arne Undheim (@trondau), futurist and author.
In this conversation, they talk about scaling digital health, post-pandemic opportunities, predictive care at scale, digital care, and is the hospital of the future a building or a distributed care concept, or both?
If you're new to the show, seek particular topics, or you are looking for a great way to tell your friends about the show, which we always appreciate, we've got the episode categories. Those are at Futurized.org/episodes. They are collections of your favorite episodes organized by topic, such as Entrepreneurship, Trends, Emerging Tech, or The Future of Work. That'll help new listeners get a taste of everything that we do here, starting with a topic they are familiar with, or want to go deeper in.
The host of this podcast, Trond Arne Undheim, Ph.D is the author of Health Tech: Rebooting Society's Software, Hardware and Mindset--published by Routledge in 2021, Future Tech: How to Capture Value from Disruptive industry Trends--published by Kogan Page in 2021, Pandemic Aftermath: how Coronavirus changes Global Society and Disruption Games: How to Thrive on Serial Failure (2020)--both published by Atmosphere Press in 2020, Leadership From Below: How the Internet Generation Redefines the Workplace by Lulu Press in 2008. For an overview, go to Trond's Books at Trondundheim.com/books
At this stage, Futurized is lucky enough to have several sponsors. To check them out, go to Sponsors | Futurized - thoughts on our emerging future. If you are interested in Trond's products or services, feel free to check out Futurized.org/store, where you can book a keynote speech, become a sponsor or partner, request a podcast swap, or buy a few of Trond's books, such as Health Tech, Future Tech, Pandemic Aftermath, Disruption Games or Leadership From Below. If you are interested in all of Trond's projects, check out his website, Trondundheim.com which has links to his other podcasts as well as his public appearances.
Trond's takeaway:
The future of hospitals is not going to be a simple thing, digitized or not. Healthcare is fraught with contradictions, complexity, massive costs, and the stakes of life and death. Technology is really only one part of the puzzle. Having said that, we are at the precipice of healthcare tech as a major differentiator and possibly able to bypass some of the complexities and deliver blanket improvements for all, across society. However, more probably, the benefits will first come to the elite.
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Futurized is created in association with Yegii, the insight network. Yegii lets clients create multidisciplinary dream teams consisting of a subject matter experts, academics, consultants, data scientists, and generalists as team leaders. Yegii's services include speeches, briefings, seminars, reports and ongoing monitoring. You can find Yegii at Yegii.org.
The Futurized team consists of podcast host and sound technician Trond Arne Undheim and videographer Raul Edward D'Trewethan.
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Sep 21, 2021
49 min

Futurized goes beneath the trends to track the underlying forces of disruption in tech, policy, business models, social dynamics and the environment. I’m your host, Trond Arne Undheim, futurist and author.
In episode #[115 of the podcast, the topic is: The Future of Cybersecurity. Our guest is Bob Gourley, Co-Founder and CTO of OODA LLC and Action Council Member at the Atlantic Council Geotech Center.
In this conversation, we talk about new mental models for thinking about security, zero trust networks, cyberthreat amnesia--you mitigate the threat and forget, the evolution of technology, and we discuss the Red Queen Effect.
The host of this podcast, Trond Arne Undheim, Ph.D is the author of Health Tech: Rebooting Society's Software, Hardware and Mindset--published by Routledge in 2021, Future Tech: How to Capture Value from Disruptive industry Trends--published by Kogan Page in 2021, Pandemic Aftermath: how Coronavirus changes Global Society and Disruption Games: How to Thrive on Serial Failure (2020)--both published by Atmosphere Press in 2020, Leadership From Below: How the Internet Generation Redefines the Workplace by Lulu Press in 2008. For an overview, go to Trond's Books at Trondundheim.com/books
At this stage, Futurized is lucky enough to have several sponsors. To check them out, go to Sponsors | Futurized - thoughts on our emerging future.
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After listening to the episode, check out:
Atlantic Council Geotech Center (@ACGeoTech): https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/programs/geotech-center/
Bob Gourley (@BobGourley): https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertgourley/
Ooda LLC: https://www.oodaloop.com/
Trond's takeaway: Cybersecurity cannot rely on awareness alone, we need to become smarter than that, allowing technology and systematic approaches to help us become more secure. We also need to bake ethics into the discussion. What should we allow, what norms should we work to establish across the international community as acceptable and not acceptable attack spaces and under what conditions?
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Sep 21, 2021
48 min

Futurized goes beneath the trends to track the underlying forces of disruption in tech, policy, business models, social dynamics and the environment. I’m your host, Trond Arne Undheim, futurist and author.
In episode #105 of the podcast, the topic is: The Future of Child Abuse Online. Our guest is Chris Wexler, CEO and co-founder of Krunam.
In this conversation, we talk about the business of removing digital toxic waste from the internet using AI to identify Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM).
The host of this podcast, Trond Arne Undheim, Ph.D is the author of Health Tech: Rebooting Society's Software, Hardware and Mindset--published by Routledge in 2021, Future Tech: How to Capture Value from Disruptive industry Trends--published by Kogan Page in 2021, Pandemic Aftermath: how Coronavirus changes Global Society and Disruption Games: How to Thrive on Serial Failure (2020)--both published by Atmosphere Press in 2020, Leadership From Below: How the Internet Generation Redefines the Workplace by Lulu Press in 2008. For an overview, go to Trond's Books at Trondundheim.com/books
At this stage, Futurized is lucky enough to have several sponsors. To check them out, go to Sponsors | Futurized - thoughts on our emerging future.
If you are interested in sponsoring the podcast, or to get an overview of other services provided by the host of this podcast, including how to book him for keynote speeches, please go to Store | Futurized - thoughts on our emerging future. We will consider all brands that have a demonstrably positive contribution to the future.
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After listening to the episode, check out:
Chris Wexler (@ChrisWexler): https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriswexler/
Krunam: https://krunam.co/
My takeaway is that Child Abuse Online is a growing problem and there is no simple technology fix. We are dealing with those who push the limits of pornography, one of the most adaptive applications on the internet. Keeping a watchful eye and reporting abuses as we come across them, seems like a sensible approach, supporting businesses such as Krunam, who use AI to fight it, also makes sense. It is encouraging that there now are clever people, technologies, and organizations helping law enforcement with this endemic problem. Regulating the players whose business models touches this area more vigorously would also help.
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Futurized—conversations that matter.
Sep 14, 2021
50 min

Futurized goes beneath the trends to track the underlying forces of disruption in tech, policy, business models, social dynamics and the environment.
I’m your host, Trond Arne Undheim (@trondau), futurist, author, investor, and serial entrepreneur. Join me as I discuss the societal impact of deep tech such as AI, blockchain, IoT, nanotech, quantum, robotics, and synthetic biology, and tackle topics such as entrepreneurship, trends, or the future of work. On the show, I interview smart people with a soul: founders, authors, executives, and other thought leaders, or even the occasional celebrity.
Futurized is a bi-weekly show, preparing YOU to think about how to deal with the next decade's disruption, so you can succeed and thrive no matter what happens. Futurized—conversations that matter.
In episode 133 of the podcast, the topic is: The Future of Entertainment. Our guest is Brimstone, entrepreneur, professional wrestler, radio host, actor, author, musician, philanthropist, food critic, as well as a video game hero--and much more. After listening to the episode, check out:
Brimstone (@entrancetohell): https://www.therealbrimstone.com/
In this conversation, we talk about what the next decade looks like in Brimstone's sphere of entertainment, comics, and wrestling. Entertainment has been here since the beginning of time, from storytelling around the bonfire, to hunting, to Greek theater to gladiators. Everywhere we go, it is about entrancing an audience and standing out from the competition by being unique. What does the future hold? What can all of us learn from a master entertainer?
If you're new to the show, seek particular topics, or you are looking for a great way to tell your friends about the show, which we always appreciate, we've got the episode categories. Those are at Futurized.org/episodes. They are collections of your favorite episodes organized by topic, such as Entrepreneurship, Trends, Emerging Tech, or The Future of Work. That'll help new listeners get a taste of everything that we do here, starting with a topic they are familiar with, or want to go deeper in.
The host of this podcast, Trond Arne Undheim, Ph.D is the author of Health Tech: Rebooting Society's Software, Hardware and Mindset--published by Routledge in 2021, Future Tech: How to Capture Value from Disruptive industry Trends--published by Kogan Page in 2021, Pandemic Aftermath: how Coronavirus changes Global Society and Disruption Games: How to Thrive on Serial Failure (2020)--both published by Atmosphere Press in 2020, Leadership From Below: How the Internet Generation Redefines the Workplace by Lulu Press in 2008. For an overview, go to Trond's Books at Trondundheim.com/books
At this stage, Futurized is lucky enough to have several sponsors. To check them out, go to Futurized.org/sponsors.
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You have just listened to episode 133 of the Futurized podcast, with host Trond Arne Undheim, futurist and author. If you are interested in Trond's products or services, feel free to check out Futurized.org/store, where you can book a keynote speech, become a sponsor or partner, request a podcast swap, or buy a few of Trond's books, such as Health Tech, Future Tech, Pandemic Aftermath, Disruption Games or Leadership From Below. If you are interested in all of Trond's projects, check out his website, Trondundheim.com which has links to his other podcasts as well as his public appearances.
In this conversation, we talked about what the next decade looks like in Brimstone's sphere of entertainment, comics, and wrestling.
Trond's takeaway: The future of entertainment is still about providing a standout performance and building a brand around your personality coupled with your products and services. It is encouraging to learn that entertaining can be rehearsed by anybody, regardless of personality. But rest assured, there is only one Brimstone, this larger than life character, and only one show like Futurized.
Thanks for listening. If you liked the show, subscribe at Futurized.org or in your preferred podcast player, and rate us with five stars.
If you like this topic, you may enjoy other episodes of Futurized, such as episode 107, The Future of Art and Tech, episode 80, The Future of Personal Development, or episode 54, The Future of AR. Hopefully, you'll find something awesome in these or other episodes. If so, do let us know by messaging us, we would love to share your thoughts with other listeners.
Futurized is created in association with Yegii, the insight network. Yegii lets clients create multidisciplinary dream teams consisting of a subject matter experts, academics, consultants, data scientists, and generalists as team leaders. Yegii's services include speeches, briefings, seminars, reports and ongoing monitoring. You can find Yegii at Yegii.org.
The Futurized team consists of podcast host and sound technician Trond Arne Undheim, videographer Raul Edward D'Trewethan, and podcast marketer Nahin Israfil Hossain.
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Sep 7, 2021
51 min

Futurized goes beneath the trends to track the underlying forces of disruption in tech, policy, business models, social dynamics and the environment. I’m your host, Trond Arne Undheim, futurist and author. In episode #110 of the podcast, the topic is: The Metaverse Reality. Our guest is Mark van Rijmenam, PhD, Futurist, Founder of Datafloq & Mavin.
In this conversation, we talk about [the organization of tomorrow, the increasing blending of online and offline worlds, reality and virtual reality, into a hybrid reality. In the metaverse, we might find sovereign identities where people and bots work, play, learn and consume, operating in an increasingly virtually empowered world. We discuss the potential of an impending productization of that hybrid reality with unforeseeable consequences.
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After listening to the episode, check out:
Mark van Rijmenam (@VanRijmenam): https://thedigitalspeaker.com/
Trond's takeaway: The metaverse, for all the hype, is just another version of the internet. It might be a badly designed version, though, and that is not helpful. The upside, perhaps, is that as people embrace virtual worlds they might get some needed break from a tough reality. However, at the moment, the metaverse is looking like it will be productized way early in its lifecycle and that will limit the creation of the kind of innovation space that spurred the internet into a broad humanity expanding platform.]
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Futurized—conversations that matter.
Aug 30, 2021
53 min

Futurized goes beneath the trends to track the underlying forces of disruption in tech, policy, business models, social dynamics and the environment. I’m your host, Trond Arne Undheim, futurist and author. In episode #108 of the podcast, the topic is: Play, Uncertainty and Growth. Our guest is Claus Raasted, Futurist, Director at The College of Extraordinary Experiences.
In this conversation, we talk about playful productivity, how learning how to see the world in a different way can unlock growth, designing role plays to expand human professional experiences, how teaching has been in a terrible place for hundreds of years, and about the emotional connection to books.
Before you do anything else, make sure you are subscribed to our newsletter on Futurized.org, where you can find hundreds of episodes of conversations that matter to the future. I hope you can also leave a positive review on iTunes or in your favorite podcast player--it really matters to the future of this podcast. Thanks so much, let's begin.
After listening to the episode, check out:
Claus Raasted: https://www.clausraasted.com/
My takeaway is that using your imagination the fullest extent is becoming an important differentiator in the workplace. To many of us, this has to be learned much like anything else in life, partly because the rest of our human experience serves to do the opposite--provides incentives to unlearning the childlike approach to learning which is so fundamental for staying flexible.
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If you like this topic, you may enjoy other episodes of Futurized, such as episode #123, Regenerative Business, episode #66, The Serendipity of Social Innovation, or episode #90, Upskilling Youth for the 21st Century Bioeconomy, or indeed any of the 20+ Learning Episodes | Futurized - thoughts on our emerging future.
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Futurized—conversations that matter.
Aug 24, 2021
51 min

Ben Kovalis, co-founder and CMO at Art.ai, interviewed by Futurized's podcast host Trond Arne Undheim (@trondau), futurist and author.
In this conversation, they talk about what it means to use artificial intelligence to create one-of-a-kind artworks generated entirely by computer algorithms. How and when did it evolve? Does it complement or change art? Is it any different from previous technologies used to innovate artistic expression? What now?
Disclosure: Trond was gifted two AI generated artworks in order to prepare for this episode. The feedback he gets from those who see it is fascinating in itself.
After listening to this episode, check out:
Art AI (@art_ai_official): https://www.artaigallery.com/
Ben Kovalis (@Ben_Kovalis): https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-kovalis/
Trond's takeaway: Art and tech have always been linked together by creative artists. Is there a difference when AI gets used in each stage of the artistic process and arguably somewhat independently of human hands? How important is the medium in conveying a message? How can technology and artistry rise above the technology itself if technology gets more and more autonomous? What would happen if society invested as much in AI art as in AI for social media or AI for industrial production? These questions are not resolved but are intriguing to ponder as we enter this puzzling decade.
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Aug 17, 2021
1 hr 6 min

Michael Leckie, Founding Partner of Silverback Partners LLC, author of the new book The Heart of Transformation, published by Kogan Page, interviewed by Trond Arne Undheim, futurist and author.
In this conversation, they talk about how organizational change drives technology, behaviors of change--such as focusing on people's 3rds best ideas--and how to build organizational culture.
After listening to the episode, check out:
The Heart of Transformation: https://michaelleckie.com/book
Michael Leckie (@leckiemichaelj): https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjleckie/
Trond's takeaway: Organizational change is perhaps enabled by technology these days but tech has to be carried by people throughout the organization in order to reap the value and avoid being blinded by apparent quick fixes to difficult dynamics within human systems.
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If you like this topic, you may enjoy other episodes of Futurized, such as episode 93, Orchestrating the Freelance Economy, episode 91, Two Author-Podcasters Discuss Tech, or episode 94, Workforce, Humanity, and Future Tech. Did you know that you can also find Futurized on YouTube? You may enjoy our professionally produced long and short form clips from the podcast.
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Aug 10, 2021
50 min

Alex Gladstein is Chief Strategy Officer at the Human Rights Foundation, interviewed by Trond Arne Undheim (@trondau), futurist and author.
In this conversation, we talk about Decentralization, Bitcoin v Cash, Human Rights, surveillance states, digital authoritarianism, activism in a digital age, the mixed blessings of encryption, what it means to be an open society, currency neutrality and beyond.
After listening to the episode, check out:
Human Rights Foundation (@HRF): https://hrf.org/
Alex Gladstein (@Gladstein): https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgladstein/
Trond's takeaway: freedoms need to be protected, one at a time, always, and as society and technology changes, more often that you would think. The future of freedom is only as bleak or bright as we ensure it will become through keeping a close watch.
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Futurized—conversations that matter.
Aug 3, 2021
53 min

Alan Moore, Designer, Consultant, and Author, interviewed by Trond Arne Undheim, futurist, investor, and author.
In this conversation, we talk about what regenerative business practices truly entail which is to go well beyond sustainability. We discuss how beauty gives us the oxygen needed and how we need to reclaim it, giving ourselves, as architects, designers, creators or innovators, the permission to think about that mysterious, awesome concept and reality of beauty.
After listening to the episode, check out Alan Moore's social media profile, his company Beautiful Business, and his most recent book, Do Build:
Do Build (book): https://thedobook.co/products/do-build-how-to-make-and-lead-a-business-the-world-needs
Alan Moore (@alansmlxl): https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanmoore2/
Beautiful Business: https://beautiful.business/
My takeaway is that reclaiming the concept of beauty is transformational both on a personal and a planetary scale, but it cannot happen without introspection, courage, and the power of example. Wonder, joy, and walking in nature can approximate beauty and can give us the inspiration to pursue it in our professional lives. The effects would be healing for the planet, which seems really needed right now, objectively speaking.
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If you like this topic, you may enjoy other episodes of Futurized, such as episode 90, Upskilling Youth for the 21st Century Bioeconomy, episode 73, The Future of Social Learning, or episode 66, [The Serendipity of Social Innovation.
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Jul 27, 2021
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