
What happens when something is taken so far that we lose the actual intent and purpose behind it?
In this week's episode, we dig deep into the motivations of parenting choices and the heart that can lie behind the choices that we make as parents.
Drawing from St. Augustine's classic treatise, "On the Spirit and the Letter" we apply some of his principles that he draws from Scripture and bring it to some of the more controversial questions of parenting and the choices that we make in trying to parent and build a family according to God's design.
What we find is that it's not as easy as simply following a set of rules or blueprints, plugging in the proper formula and out comes the right mixture of a godly family. We must dig deeper than that as parents and allow the Spirit to penetrate the depths of our hearts and God's Word to reach into the depths of our spirits in order that He may find and refine our hearts for His good and godly purposes.
As Jesus said to the legalistic pharisees who thought they all had it right by simply following all the rules: "But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire compassion, and not sacrifice,’ for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” - Matthew 9:13
Join us in the conversation as we share some our own self-examination as a couple on some weighty matters of parenting.
Check out St. Augustine's full writing here.
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Jul 31, 2023
37 min

What is our heart in parenting?
Are we trying to raise up trophies who achieve all the prizes and are the picture of success in the world?
Are we trying to just go through the motions of passing on the family name the next generation?
Are we just fulfilling a dream of a spouse to have children? Or expectations of parents to become grandparents?
This week, we want to talk about cultivating the heart of Christ in ourselves as parents as we seek to raise our children and that begins with the formation of a heart of a servant.
As parents, we are privilege in forming the hearts of our children, playing a key role not just in forming the next generation but also the starting steps of eternal lives. Amidst all of the cries, and screams, and demands, the natural tendencies of our hearts can be to turn resentful towards these little ones who may always seem like their demanding from us, but we have the example of Christ before us:
"who, although existing in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, by taking the form of a slave, by being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross." - Philippians 2:6-8
Christ came not to be served but to serve and to give His life as a ransom for many, as He tells the eager apostles James and John who seek to have the highest positions in the Messiah's Kingdom.
Parenting too is a space of humility and seeking to serve and show that self-giving. unconditional, sacrificial love on behalf of our children. it's with that kind of love that God has loved us and desires for us to love others, and especially our children with.
We love the prayer of St. Francis and think it's an excellent one to pray and meditate upon in cultivating a servant's heart in ourselves as parents:
"Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me bring love.
Where there is offence, let me bring pardon.
Where there is discord, let me bring union.
Where there is error, let me bring truth.
Where there is doubt, let me bring faith.
Where there is despair, let me bring hope.
Where there is darkness, let me bring your light.
Where there is sadness, let me bring joy.
O Master, let me not seek as much
to be consoled as to console,
to be understood as to understand,
to be loved as to love,
for it is in giving that one receives,
it is in self-forgetting that one finds,
it is in pardoning that one is pardoned,
it is in dying that one is raised to eternal life."
-St. Francis of Assisi
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Jul 24, 2023
33 min

What is sex and what is God's design for it?
This episode is related to the topic sex and sexuality and as a result, may
not be suitable for a younger audience. If your kids are listening to
this podcast with you, we suggest you skip it and come back to it when
they are not around (hence the explicit rating).
In a world obsessed with sex and pleasure, it's hard to find biblical
answers to these questions but the answers ought to be at the heart of
every marriage.
In this week's episode, we discuss what the Bible has to say about sex as part of reflecting God as Creator, as well as the union between Christ and His bride, the Church. With all of the glamor that our culture likes to throw over sex, it really pales in comparison to the incredible reality that God has made the sexual union between a husband and wife to reflect!
We also talk about the challenges that can come in marriage around sex,
and how the devil seeks to divide what God has joined together. The
areas of attack and why it is so important for the marriage bed to
remain a sacred place, as the author of Hebrews says:
"Marriage is to be held in honor among all, and the marriage bed is to be undefiled, for the sexually immoral and adulterers God will judge" Hebrews 13:4, LSB.
We also discuss the physical aspects of sexual union that have been under attack in the last two centuries with the wave of contraceptives. etc. that have resulted in the dehumanization of the act of intercourse.
Join us in this topic of intimacy and all that God has intended the marriage bed for, far beyond just pleasure!
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Jul 17, 2023
57 min

"Any house divided against itself will not stand." - Matthew 12:25b Legacy Standard Bible
Have you ever tried to build something when someone else is continually trying to knock it down? It makes things really difficult! The same is true for our homes. When we're in a space of division, it can feel impossible to build something that will remain standing.
When we were first dating, we decided that we wanted to work through as many of the difficult conversations as we could up front. That meant that we asked each other a lot of hard questions. One of those questions was around having children if we were to marry. We quickly discovered that we were not on the same page... whatsoever.
Steven wanted to wait to have kids, as he thought it was irresponsible to bring children into a marriage if it wasn't established with a reputation of stability.
Lydia wanted to trust the Lord with children, and to receive as many children as God would choose to give to us.
How do you come to a unified decision in a relationship when you're at really different places?
In this week's episode, we walk through how those conversations went for us and we share how that could be helpful for your family and situation. Even if you haven't had those conversation ahead of time like we did, choosing to have those conversations at any point along the journey can be of great benefit!
Wanting to start the conversation but are not sure how to broach the topic? A great place to begin thinking about those questions around the purpose and design of the family and living a Christian life, is the series, "For the Life of the World: Letters to the Exiles."
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Jul 10, 2023
52 min

Have you ever been excited about starting something new, but then you never actually do it? Maybe it was a new exercise program, a local community organization you wanted to participate in, a day trip with the family that you just never seem to get around to. It's great to have good intentions and to desire to do something but sometimes actually getting around to doing it, is an entirely different matter.
We talk about wanting to raise our children to follow after Jesus, but what does that actually look like on a day to day basis? Are we actually spending time with our kids in the Bible? Are we actually praying with or kids? Are we modeling for our kids in how we live as examples of following Christ?
In this episode, we share our journey of becoming intentional in following after Jesus in our daily lives as a family. Dig into the daily habits and routines of scripture reading, gather around the family piano for a time of worship, get on our hands and knees to pray, as we share with you the joyful, messy, frustrating, raw,beautiful, creative, time that is praying, praising, and worshiping God together as a family.
Want to know some of our favorite resources for family prayer and Bible study? Check out our Family Prayer Resources Page!
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Jul 3, 2023
52 min

Are we as parents living our lives in such a way that God is easily forgettable to our children who are watching? Is our walk with Christ actually seen as important in the eyes of our children?
It's always entertaining to watch videos of children being interviewed about their life and what's important. Whether they are talking about their mom and dad, or what they think about God or their home or their school, you'll always find a similar theme. Children are brutally honest about what they observe. Our children pick up on everything that they see and hear. Want to know where most of their bad habits come from? WE usually don't need to look any further than ourselves!
So what are we passing on to our children when it concerns our faith in Jesus Christ? What are they observing in us?
When Moses gave his farewell speech to the children of Israel as they were preparing to enter the Promised Land, he warned them,
"Beware lest you forget Yahweh your God by not keeping His commandments and His judgments and His statutes which I am commanding you today . . . lest you say in your heart, ‘My power and the might of my hand made me this wealth.’ But you shall remember Yahweh your God, for it is He who is giving you power to make wealth, that He may confirm His covenant which He swore to your fathers, as it is this day." - Deuteronomy 8:11, 17-18
This is the generation that were children when their parents were brought out of Egypt. They had seen all of God's mighty deeds in Egypt and they had seen all of the consequences of their parents in disobeying the Lord in the wilderness, as they wandered for 40 years.
Joshua gives a similar warning before his death, and it comes in Judges that after him and all of this generation who had entered the primised land died, that "there arose another generation after them who did not know Yahweh or even the work which He had done for Israel." - Judges 2:10b
What happened that this new generation did not know the Lord? Their parents had faithfully served the Lord. They were brave enough to enter and conquer the Promised Land, and yet their children seem to know nothing about the God who brought them there in the first place. How was it that their children did not know the Lord or the work that He had done?
Somehow, in the midst of the comforts that their parents had obtained, they failed to pass along to their children knowledge of the One who had provided such comforts. It's easy for us that once we've achieved something that we easily forget what got us there in the first place. We're a lot like this too are we not? It's easy for us to remember to cry out to God when our family is in need, but when we have all that we need, how quickly do we forget to stop and remember and thank the One who provided for us?
If we become complacent in our own walk with he Lord as parents, we should not be surprised to find that our children too are complacent about following God. Can we reasonably expect our children to remain in the church as adults if we as families are attending church a couple times a month at best, and maybe attending a weekly Bible study if we're really dedicated? To the outside observer, does our life really reflect a need for God? What about to our children, who are seeing all that we say and do?
Join us in this week's episode as we talk about what it takes for a generation to pass on the promises of God.
And enjoy this song from the Getty's that our family has enjoyed about Passing the Promise
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Jun 12, 2023
41 min

How do you determine what’s important for your family?
Voices are constantly screaming for our attention and trying to tell us what family ought to look like. The right house, the right car, the right number of kids, smart kids who perform well in sports and academics, etc. Sometimes, it can feel impossible to measure up and many families end up finding themselves with the children raised and gone, only to have missed what was truly important. they may find themselves asking the question, "what was I chasing after in the first place?"
As parents, one of the most critical things we can to is to discern what is important for our family. And if we're not actively making those decision and choosing to live into them, we'll find that the world is ready to jump in there and make them for us. It's not enough for us to make assumptions when it comes to deciding what's important for our families, it takes proactive thinking and living to shape what actually becomes important for our families.
This week, we;re diving into some of the things that we've found to be most important for our family, how those decisions came about, and what we're doing to try and live into what's important on a daily basis.
We encourage you as a parents to sit down individually and think through some of these things, and then come together to discuss them and see what you find to be important for your family. Are you both on the same page? Is what you thin to be important acually being lived out on a daily basis, or is it stuck in the land theoretical?
We have a little resource for your family that may help aid you in the process of figuring out what's important for your family. It's called "A Family Rule of Life." Check it out below:
A Family Rule of Life
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Jun 5, 2023
40 min

Have you ever wondered why God has created us in families? What's the purpose of family? Is it simply to keep the human race going or is there something more than that?
This week, we're journeying through God's word to see what He has in mind for family. What is the origin of family, how is God working through family, God coming down and entering into family, and us becoming a part of God's family.
Bear with us on this one, because we have some very practical applications that come from this!
If we don't understand the purpose of family, and then specifically our own individual families, it can be difficult to have direction as a family. But God calls us to so much more than just functioning from day to day. He wants our family on mission, living out His image, reflecting His unconditional love, ministering His reconciliation, and growing into the family He has made us to be in His Kingdom.
In a world that is so fixated on performance and achievements, this changes everything in how we live and love and function as parents. It's not about what our family looks like, how "Successful" it is, how great our children's academic and career performances are, but it's about a love that can never be broken. It's about a relationship of father to son, mother to daughter, etc., that can never be undone, just as the love of God the Father for His beloved Son can never be shaken.
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May 22, 2023
43 min

What happens when urgency takes over what's important in our lives?
What happens when we set aside the long term picture for the short term obstacles?
2020 was a unique season for everyone, but what can we learn from it as families? When the world is seeking to protect itself from the things that are perceived as scary, urgent, dire, what are to whom are we to turn to? And what does that communicate to our children when things are tough?
For our family, we watched as the world called families to live in a space of fear rather than hope that we have in Christ. We watched as churches closed their doors for the sake of physical safety to the detriment of spiritual security in the One who has given us eternal life. Lives were stopped in the name of preservation, rather than surrendered to the Lord as "living sacrifices" as Paul says in Romans. What effect does this have on our children?
Children are always watching, they're designed that way. It's through observation that children learn and grow and they emulate what they see around them. When we say that "it's not safe to gather at church," or "it's not safe for you to continue your education right now," what's being communicated to them is that either those things aren't essential in their lives, or they themselves are not essential. Do we want our children to believe that they don't matter? Do we want our children to believe that the practice of their faith in the midst of fear is not important? Certainly it is in the tough times that those two things ought and need to be affirmed all the more.
Listen as we share our reflections on this season in our world and how it reminded us of what was truly essential for our family.
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May 15, 2023
33 min

Should a minister in the church have a large family?
How could he attend to the duties of his ministry?
How could he provide for a large family on a ministry salary?
how could he attend to the cares of his family while also attending to the cares of his flock?
The life of a minister can be so demanding. How could one possibly be able to attend to the things of God's church as well as the things of a family?
And yet, we see in the Apostle Paul's qualifications of a minister in 1 Timothy and Titus, that a minister ought to be a respectable father in his own house, with respectable children. In fact, Paul goes on to say in Timothy that "if a man does not know how to lead his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?" (1 Timothy 3:5, Legacy Standard Bible). Indeed then, one of the tests of godly character for ministry, at least for those who have children (seeing that Paul himself had none), is to see the fruit of the household.
Life in ministry is indeed difficult, just as life within the family is not easy work. But that does not mean that God calls His ministers to forsake the proper care of one over the other. All too often, family is neglected and it will inevitably lead to the detriment of the other. And if the family is not neglected, then it is often cut short, with the intentional rejection of more children.
In this episode, we discuss our journey in ministry and the challenges we faced in desiring a large family in ministry.
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May 8, 2023
46 min
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