Isaac Lyman is the editor of the Leanpub book Your First Year in Code: A complete guide for new & aspiring developers. In this interview, Leanpub co-founder Len Epp talks with Isaac about his background, how he first got into programming, his unique novel-writing app Edward the App, "outliners" vs. "pantsers", his book, the role imperfection can play in software code, some things to theing about when you're getting your first job, and at the end, they talk a little bit about his experience as a self-published author.This interview was recorded on August 12, 2019.The full audio for the interview is here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/leanpub_podcasts/FM128-Isaac-Lyman-2019-08-12.mp3. You can subscribe to the Frontmatter podcast in iTunes here https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/leanpub-podcast/id517117137 or add the podcast URL directly here: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/leanpub-podcast/id517117137.This interview has been edited for conciseness and clarity.