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How to Be a Double Unicorn, with John Urschel | Better in Person
32 minutes Posted Sep 16, 2026 at 12:00 am.
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He was thriving in the N.F.L., but then he decided to focus on mathematics — a subject he now teaches at M.I.T. John walks Stephen Dubner through the whole story, teaches him some blocking techniques, and explains why some infinities are bigger than others.
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