
How do you go from streaming to an empty chat room with a cheap, second-hand eBay capture card to signing historical streaming deals and building a 25-person game development studio?
Welcome to the Forbes Top Creator Show! This week, host Steven Bertoni decodes the business of gaming and streaming with pioneer, creator, and entrepreneur Andre Rebelo—AKA Typical Gamer.
In this episode, Typical Gamer opens up about his 16-year journey in digital media, starting on Justin.tv in 2009 long before the word "streamer" was even a viable career path. He shares the emotional reality of dropping out of college twice—first for computer science and then for business marketing, after realizing his 80-year-old professor was teaching a textbook version of social media that Typical Gamer was actively living out in real time. TG reflects on his upbringing as the son of Portuguese immigrants, highlighting how his father went from growing up on a farm with pigs on the floor to seeing his son sign the first-ever exclusive YouTube gaming streaming contract in 2015.
Andre breaks down the highly strategic business behind Typical Gamer. He reveals the logistics of live-streaming his wedding to his fellow creator wife, Samara Redway (complete with a Fortnite drone show, "Forever Duo" vows, and her grandfather's hilarious "Gandalf" officiant slips). He also deep-dives into his game development company, JOGO, explaining why he refuses to take a single dollar of profit from the business so they can supercharge Fortnite UGC map building. Finally, he shares his three rules of creator success, his hot takes on Grand Theft Auto 6 (GTA 6), and why short-form content is the only way for modern creators to escape the fatal cycle of streaming to an empty chat.
#Typical Gamer #ForbesTopCreators #CreatorEconomy #GamingIndustry
Check out the Forbes Top Creator List:https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2026/06/23/forbes-top-creators-2026/
00:00 Meet Typical Gamer / Andre Rebelo
01:16 The Biggest Misconceptions of Professional Gamers
01:42 Live to Work: TG's Daily Stream and Meeting Schedule
03:09 The Justin.tv Origin Story and Scrappy Capture Cards
04:07 From Red Dead Tutorials to Handling Condescending Friends
04:57 Pigs on the Floor: The Portuguese Immigrant Family Backstory
05:56 Dropping Out of College Twice
07:45 The Walmart Days and the Game-Changing GTA 5 Launch
09:50 Making History: Signing the First Ever YouTube Gaming Contract
12:01 Live Streaming a Fortnite wedding to Samara Redway
14:35 Launching JOGO Game Development
16:51 The Superpower of Delegation
17:59 Three Golden Rules for New Streamers
19:43 Why Streaming to Zero Viewers Does Nothing
20:29 Managing a Tailored 10-Person Operations Team
23:38 A Bold Prediction for GTA 6
24:27 Why AI Game Making is Over-Hyped
25:02 The Next 5 Years: The Future of Gaming and Content Creation
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Sep 1
28 min

How do you go from working as a local barista slicing cucumbers for crepes to running a massively popular financial food brand as the internet's undisputed cucumber king?
Welcome to the Forbes Top Creator Show! This week, host Steven Bertoni decodes the business of influence with food creator, communications specialist, and entrepreneur Logan Moffitt.
In this episode, Logan opens up about the powerful transition from his grueling 12-year competitive swimming background to social media stardom, proving how the discipline, endurance, and routine of the pool perfectly prepared him for the creator grind. He details his early days at U Ottawa studying communications while balancing two jobs, and how he spent almost two years posting four videos a day on TikTok before finally finding his audience.
Logan shares how he cracked the short-form food algorithm by abandoning hyper-produced, extravagant tutorials in favor of raw, curiosity-sparking snacks. He breaks down his simple, phone-only production setup, his impulse-driven creative process, and why he chooses to build long-term, high-trust partnerships with produce brands (and the Mushroom Council) rather than chasing fleeting algorithmic trends. Finally, Logan shares his bold plans for future-proofing his career through long-form podcasts, a YouTube transition, and the early development of a "chill" cookbook where exact measurements are strictly banned.
#LoganMoffitt #ForbesTopCreators #CreatorEconomy #FoodCreator
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00:00 Meet Logan Moffitt
00:54 How the Cucumber Salad Was Born
02:14 Stepping Away from Complex Meals to Simple Snacks
02:53 Falling in Love with Cooking & Studying on YouTube
04:37 Swimming, Communications & Goggles: Life Before the Fame
05:24 The Barista Days: Slicing Cucumbers for Crepes
06:31 The Kimchi Breakthrough and Building a Food Community
07:15 The Secret to Cracking Short-Form Food Videos
08:31 Impulse Creation: The Bare-Bones Phone Setup
10:23 When Your Audience Tells You to Make Bun Bo Hue
10:43 Decoding the Business: Long-Term Brand Partnerships
11:24 The Cucumber Contract & The Mushroom Council
12:50 The Biggest Mistake: Hiding Your True Voice
13:24 Why Following Trends Is a Short-Term Trap
14:12 Future-Proofing: Transitioning to Long-Form Content
15:57 The Ultimate Accomplishment: Writing a 'Chill' Cookbook
18:18 French Ragu Pasta and the Dream Pork Belly Soju Meal
20:05 Olympic-Level Work Ethic: Posting 4 Videos a Day for 2 Years
21:56 Day One Directive: Spontaneity Beats Perfectionism
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Aug 25
26 min

How do you go from writing stories about human trafficking on the US-Mexico border to building a multi-million dollar business media empire?
Welcome to the Forbes Top Creator Show! This week, host Steven Bertoni decodes the business of influence with former journalist, Wall Street investor, and serial entrepreneur Codie Sanchez.
In this episode, Codie opens up about her intense early days as a border journalist, winning the John F. Kennedy Award for print journalism, and the searing realization that it is nearly impossible to assert your will on the world when you are broke. She details her transition into high finance—climbing the ladder at Vanguard, Goldman Sachs, and State Street—and why she walked away from private equity after realizing she didn't want to end up like her corporate peers.
Codie delivers a true masterclass on building Contrarian Thinking, a powerhouse holding company that uses social media to drive 130 million monthly views into venture capital, franchise brands, and advisory services. She breaks down her daily routine of waking up at 6:00 AM, skipping the cold plunges to go down TikTok rabbit holes, and enforcing a checklist of doing "one hard thing" and having "one hard conversation" every single day.
Finally, Codie shares her core investment thesis: why "boring" physical businesses like plumbing, HVAC, car washes, and laundromats are the ultimate path to financial freedom in the age of AI, and why they will outlast traditional knowledge workers like accountants, attorneys, and graphic designers. She also reveals her biggest creator mistake—getting "murdered" by the internet over a typo, and her three commandments for finance creators: "bring your weird way better than boring," fight the "sloppification" of content, and obsess over serving just one person.
#CodieSanchez #ForbesTopCreators #ContrarianThinking #CreatorEconomy
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00:00 Meet Codie Sanchez
01:32 What Makes a Podcast Worth an Hour of Your Life
03:13 From Walter Cronkite School to the US-Mexico Border
06:11 The City of Death: Why Money Equals Leverage
08:31 Winning the John F. Kennedy Journalism Award
10:52 From Valley Forge to the Goldman Sachs Rotational Program
13:06 Why I Quit Wall Street: "Third Wife, Lots of Lamborghinis"
15:03 Coronado and Launching the Contrarian Thinking Newsletter
16:20 Leaving the Inbox: Transitioning to Video and Short-Form
18:24 Going Viral with Laundromats
20:04 The Contrarian Holding Company Business Model
21:41 Top of Funnel: Serving 99.9% of Your Audience for Free
24:19 Mel Robbins and the Secret to Growing a Top Podcast
27:21 Daily Routine: TikTok Rabbit Holes, Heavy Workouts & Electrolytes
29:17 The Core Daily Habit: One Hard Conversation a Day
31:22 Why "Boring" Businesses Outlast Accountants & Lawyers
34:40 The Baby Boomer Key Hand-Off and Small Business Investing
36:57 Breaking the Mainstream: Less Corporate, More Off-The-Cuff
39:01 My Biggest Mistake: A Typo
40:45 Day One Directive For New Creators
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Aug 18
44 min

How do you go from working grueling 100-hour weeks as a corporate M&A lawyer to building an audience of over 20 million followers and running a multi-faceted financial media business?
Welcome to the Forbes Top Creator Show! This week, host Steven Bertoni decodes the business of influence with attorney, financial creator, and entrepreneur Erika Kullberg.
In this episode, Erika opens up about the heartbreaking turning point that led her to quit her big-firm corporate law job after her boss refused her time off to see her dying grandfather. She details her transition from $200,000 in student debt to launching her startup, Plug and Law. Erika delivers a true masterclass on how she systematically studied YouTube and TikTok like an M&A deal, writing down over 100 viral hooks to decode the rhythm of the algorithm.
She reveals the $1,000 daily-posting bet that forced her onto TikTok, her legendary 30-second Nike shoe refund video that gained 1 million followers in 24 hours, and why she turned down a massive $100,000 brand deal in her second month to protect audience trust. Finally, Erika breaks down her 90/10 investment rule, how to bypass algorithm suppression, and how she used her massive platform as a "selfish" backdoor to interview her business heroes on her hit podcast, Erika Taught Me.
#ErikaKullberg #ForbesTopCreators #CreatorEconomy #PersonalFinance
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00:00 Meet Erika Kullberg
01:29 Quitting the 100 Hour Corporate Law Grind
03:01 Shifting to Entrepreneurship & Launching Plug and Law
04:23 The M&A Method: How to Study Viral Hooks Like a Deal
08:05 Gaining 5 Million Followers in 30 Days From a $1,000 Bet
09:20 Why Erika Turned Down a $100,000 Brand Deal to Protect Trust
10:26 Organizing a 100,000-Person Live Investing Workshop
12:22 The Business of Erika Kullberg: Diversifying Revenue Streams
14:12 Launching Erika Taught Me and Meeting Her Heroes
17:46 The Truth About Short-Form vs. Long-Form
18:47 Why You Absolutely Should NOT Start a Podcast
19:29 Bypassing the Algorithm with Owned Email Lists
21:17 Erika's Three Commandments of Personal Finance
21:42 The 7-Day Rule: Overcoming Impulse Buying
23:10 Financial Nihilism & Erika's 90/10 Investment Strategy
24:23 From Splitting Tissues in Law School to True Wealth
26:32 If Your Content Isn't Shareable, What's the Point?
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Aug 11
29 min

How do you go from losing your biggest commercial acting break to creating a viral meme that has been viewed over 7 billion times?
Welcome to the Forbes Top Creator Show! This week, host Steven Bertoni decodes the business of influence with comedian, filmmaker, and "recovering actor" Steven He.
In this episode, Steven opens up about his unique Chinese-Irish upbringing and the harsh realities of trying to survive as a traditional actor in New York City. He reveals the exact strategy he used to pivot into social media, grinding through 220 failed comedy sketches before finally hitting his first million-view spark on video 221. He breaks down the chaotic, uncontrollable 7-billion view success of the "Emotional Damage" meme, and frankly discusses his biggest business failure: investing massive amounts of time and money into a highly-produced show that alienated his audience and tanked his channel's revenue by 90%.
Steven delivers a true masterclass in how to pivot your YouTube strategy, shifting content just 10% at a time to successfully launch his new 30-minute action-comedy series, James Bao, and why your failures just might be your greatest asset.
#StevenHe #ForbesTopCreators #EmotionalDamage #CreatorEconomy
Check out the Forbes Top Creator List:https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2026/06/23/forbes-top-creators-2026/
00:00 Meet Steven He
01:11 From A Chinese-Irish Upbringing To The NYC Acting Grind
03:00 Heartbreak: Losing A $34,000 Big Break To The Pandemic
04:39 The Turning Point: Grinding Through 220 Failed Videos
08:57 The 7 Billion View Accident: The "Emotional Damage" Phenomenon
11:41 The Ultimate Fail: How A Massive Budget Tanked 90% Of Views
14:52 Boiling The Frog: The 10% Pivot Strategy
21:56 Taking Power Back From The Bullies
25:38 The Next Flex: Competing At The Box Office With James Bao
31:36 The Mic Drop: Why Your Failures Forge You
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Aug 4
45 min

How do you pivot from chasing empty viral trends to building a fiercely loyal community of over 40 million followers?
Welcome to the Forbes Top Creator Show! This week, host Steven Bertoni sits down with creator and entrepreneur Rebecca Zamolo.
In this episode, Rebecca reveals her biggest career mistake: focusing entirely on viral videos and realizing her massive audience didn't actually know her. She opens up about shifting her strategy to true vulnerability, sharing her battle with a severe, life-altering illness and an isolating two-year struggle with infertility. Rebecca explains why she downsized her production crew from 20 people to just 5, leaning into the philosophy that high-retention storytelling on a $5,000 budget can successfully compete with bloated, multi-million dollar productions. She also details her obsessive process of A/B testing up to five different thumbnails per upload, and her unique strategy of targeting different demographics on each platform: treating TikTok like the "cool kids" for viral trends, using Instagram for deep connections with moms, and building elaborate story-driven videos for YouTube.
#RebeccaZamolo #ForbesTopCreators #CreatorEconomy #YouTubeStrategy
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00:00 Meet Rebecca Zamolo
01:18 The Biggest Mistake: Viral Videos vs. True Community
04:16 The Origin Story: Facing Surgery and Opening Up Online
07:02 Content Strategy: Building Backyard Bunkers and Waterparks
09:37 The Masterclass: The Science of A/B Testing
15:45 Balancing Boundaries and Vlogging for 500 Days Straight
21:24 Running a 15-Person Mini-Studio
24:33 Platform Strategy: YouTube vs. TikTok vs. Instagram
28:34 Multiple Revenue Streams
29:08 Launching Molo Wellness
31:58 What's Next: Expanding Beyond the Camera
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Jul 28
35 min

How do you go from running a "cash for gold" shop and hiding your content from your family to becoming an 83-million follower comedy powerhouse?
Welcome to the Forbes Top Creator Show! This week, host Steven Bertoni sits down with short-form sketch comedy legend and entrepreneur Anwar in his first podcast appearance ever!
In this episode, Anwar reveals his journey from being the class clown to avoid getting bullied, to accidentally going viral by stopping freeway traffic with a fake magic trick involving a loose toilet. He opens up about dropping out of college, hiding his early success from his traditional Middle Eastern family, and eventually moving into 1600 Vine—the legendary Hollywood apartment building where he lived and collaborated with creators like King Bach, Lele Pons, and Logan Paul. Anwar breaks down his highly optimized downtown studio production process, his strategy of continuously repurposing 10-year-old videos, and his strict boundaries on turning down lucrative brand deals to protect his credibility. Finally, he discusses taking his comedic inspiration from legends like Jim Carrey and Edgar Wright to fuel his ambitious pivot from 6-second clips to writing and directing a feature film.
#Anwar #ForbesTopCreators #CreatorEconomy #ComedySketches
00:00 Anwar's First Podcast
01:37 The Origin Story: Using Comedy to Avoid Bullying
04:14 The First Viral Hit: A Magic Trick With a Loose Toilet
06:32 Dropping Out of College To Create
08:40 Inside Anwar's Production Studio and Creative Process
10:39 The Strategy Behind Repurposing 10 Year Old Videos
18:35 Moving to 1600 Vine: The Creator Incubator
24:24 Protecting Credibility
29:17 The Next Step: Directing Feature Films
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Jul 21
33 min

How did The Stokes Twins go from living out of their car and sneaking into Costco for free samples to running a 70-person production company with more than 30 billion views, and soon a new series on Netflix?
Welcome to the Forbes Top Creator Show! This week, host Steven Bertoni sits down with the masterminds of YouTube retention, Alan and Alex, The Stokes Twins.
In this episode, the brothers open up about dropping out of medical school and moving to LA with no plan, facing homelessness, and relying on a scuffed Costco card just to eat. They share how a single viral video ("What It's Like to Be a Twin") gained 10 million views in a week and changed their lives forever. The twins break down their obsessive, highly analytical approach to studying their audience, why they believe 90% of the work is in the core idea, and how they scaled from a two-man team editing on iMovie to a massive 70-person production operation.
They also reveal exclusive details about their most expensive video to date (a $1 million Squid Game recreation featuring VFX artists from Endgame and Avatar), a surprise phone call from MrBeast, and a sneak peek into their massive new unscripted competition series coming soon to Netflix.
#StokesTwins #ForbesTopCreators #CreatorEconomy #YouTubeSuccess
00:00 Meet The Stokes Twins
01:58 The Origin Story: Making Videos Since Age 10
04:24 The First Viral Hit: "What It's Like to Be a Twin"
05:51 Living in a Car & Sneaking into Costco
12:36 Scaling the Business & Analyzing the Algorithm
22:01 Spending $1 Million on a Squid Game Video
27:05 YouTube Heroes & Getting a Call From MrBeast
31:43 Building a 70-Person Production Team
38:52 The Next Level: Creating a Netflix Original Series
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Jul 14
45 min

How do you turn a silent GRWM video of yourself crying before a dreaded restaurant shift into a full-time, highly lucrative career?
Welcome to the Forbes Top Creator Show! This week, host Steven Bertoni records live from the Cannes Lions festival for a special two-for-one episode featuring Forbes Under 30 creator Katie Fang and Adobe’s Head of Social Media, Jared Carneson.
(Produced in partnership with Adobe.)
In this episode, Katie breaks down her explosive growth from 800 followers to 1 million in a single month and how she leveraged her relatable "get ready with me" content into massive, long-term brand deals. Together, Katie and Jared dissect the current state of the media landscape, diving into why Gen Z has ditched traditional news for 30-second TikTok clips and the rising necessity of "clip farming." Jared shares profound insights on why AI "generates a repository of the predictable," and explains Adobe's pivot from traditional ads to scripted workplace microdramas. Finally, Katie shares her strategy for maintaining long-term audience credibility, revealing exactly why she isn't afraid to say "no" and turn down massive brand paydays.
#KatieFang #Adobe #ForbesTopCreators #CreatorEconomy #SocialMediaMarketing
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00:00 Live from Cannes Lions
01:13 Katie Fang’s Viral Origin Story: Crying on TikTok
02:45 Jared Carneson: From Mommy Bloggers to Head of Social Media
04:15 Heart Over Tools: What Actually Makes Content Successful?
05:26 Katie’s Breakthrough Kit with Glow Recipe
06:44 AI Hype & The Gossip Goblin
08:39 What are Microdramas? The New Face of Entertainment
11:30 Why Gen Z Ditched TV News for TikTok
14:21 The #1 Mistake Brands Make with Creators
17:26 Inside Katie's Long-Term Deal with Pink
20:34 Dealing with the Hamster Wheel of Content Pressure
23:30 Katie’s Ultimate Secret to Staying Relatable
29:22 Traditional Media vs "Clip Farming"
36:02 Turning Down Massive Brand Deals (Katie Spills the Tea!)
38:20 Future Outlook: What to Expect at Cannes 2027
41:20 How Gen Z Students Actually Use AI at NYU
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Jul 9
43 min

How do you go from finishing high school early to amassing 50 million followers and self-funding your own beauty brand using just an iPhone stuck to a window?
Welcome to the Forbes Top Creator Show! This week, host Steven Bertoni decodes the business of influence with master of short-form and long-form, Brooke Monk.
In this episode, Brooke breaks down her explosive growth, revealing her obsessive consistency of posting nearly every single day by 1:00 PM for six years straight. She explains how she analyzes audience data down to the caption length, her DIY setup with zero production crew, and how she confidently cold-pitches massive brands on LinkedIn. Brooke also shares the story behind self-funding her new eyelash company, Doting Beauty, and why true authenticity will always beat a strict brand script.
From moving out at 18 to running the London Marathon and speaking at Oxford, Brooke proves that treating content creation like a highly-optimized business pays massive dividends!
#BrookeMonk #ForbesTopCreators #CreatorEconomy #ContentCreator
00:00 Meet Brooke Monk
01:35 The Homeschool Hustle
04:17 The Viral Spark: Super Long Lashes and TikTok Fame
07:18 Moving Out at 18: Turning a Hobby Into a Career
09:54 The Blueprint: Posting Every Day by 1:00 PM
14:05 Algorithm Secrets: TikTok vs. YouTube Strategy
16:47 The Art of Cold-Pitching Brands on LinkedIn
23:00 Self-Funding Doting Beauty
27:33 Brooke Monk's Advice for Aspiring Creators
31:37 The One-Woman Studio: Why Brooke Still Shoots on an iPhone
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Jul 7
42 min
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