There’s a few differences in this week’s podcast from previous editions.For a start, Sue is on the other end of a Zoom call as she takes advantage of easing travel restrictions to get out and promote her new book … and finds herself attacked by birds on the Gold Coast.Having survived that, we discuss the latest twist in the pets saga as celebrity dog owners are told they are living in a cats-only block (maybe that's why they call it NCAT).And the Tribunal Member decrees the recent Court of Appeals ruling that blanket pet bans are invalid is irrelevant. Isn't banning dogs but allowing cats discriminatory? Who are we to judge? Listen HereThen, another change is that we have short audio grabs from interesting people, rather than long interviews.  And we have several of them.Sue joins Building Commissioner David Chandler on a development and sees for herself the galvanising effect this force of nature – ok, force of structure – has on the developers, architects engineers and builders when he sweeps into a building site.And you’ll never guess the one thing he always heads for, photographs and then confronts the developer with.Finally, Jimmy visits a new apartment that’s been tiled with “micro-recycled” product made from old clothes and glass.That’s all in this weeks’ Flat Chat Wrap.Transcript in fullJimmy  Well, this is a bit strange. I'm sitting looking at an empty chair, and that's because my normal sparring partner and co-host is not here. She's on the Gold Coast, and that's because now that all the travel restrictions are lifted, she can do her book tour, promoting her new book. In real life; in person. She doesn't have to do it on Zoom, which is ironic, because now she has to do this podcast on Zoom. We'll be talking to her later, about things like the new twist in the pet laws, her visit to a site with Building Commissioner David Chandler, and a new product that I went to investigate in an apartment block, which is a tile made out of old glass and old clothes. I'm Jimmy Thomson, and this is the Flat Chat Wrap. [MUSIC]JimmySue, what are you doing in the Gold Coast?Sue  I'm being attacked by birds at the moment. I'm just in the Gold Coast doing a talk about the history of the beginnings of colonial Sydney.Jimmy Why would you be doing that?Sue It’s related to my book, an historical novel, called Elizabeth & Elizabeth, about Elizabeth MacArthur and Elizabeth Macquarie in the early days of the colony. The book is apparently going extremely well, so I'm doing a little mini-tour. I've done a few Zoom talks and meetings; you know, talks in front of lots of different people, and this is my first one in person. So, with the borders open, they're doing it here.Jimmy  Which means you have to talk to me via Zoom.Sue  Yes, that’s right, but never mind. The sound is okay.Jimmy  It's not bad. You're sounding better than me; I don't know how that works. This whole thing with pets, has reared up again.