Steve Carpenter spent 30 years leading people functions for fast-growth businesses like TGI Fridays, Pret A Manger, Caffè Nero, Hotel Chocolat, and Krispy Kreme (Caffè Nero grew ten-fold in his decade as their HR lead and Krispy Kreme doubled in size whilst Steve was their People & Culture Director), hiring thousands of people and procuring a wide range of products and services along the way.

In this episode of the First-time Founders podcast, Steve details how and why he decided to be one of Yapster's early customers and explains how other first-time founders can break into big brands, with nascent propositions.

Interested listeners can reach Steve (https://www.linkedin.com/in/carpentersteve) by emailing [email protected] or Rob (https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertliddiard/) at [email protected]